Skip to comments.Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns
Posted on 03/20/2014 10:37:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
KIEV, Ukraine In an effort to stabilize Ukraine and extend its authority, the interim government has set a deadline of Friday for turning in the illegal firearms that are now carried openly by so-called self-defense groups in Independence Square, the politically important plaza in the center of the capital.
The order was seconded on Thursday by the French ambassador to Ukraine, Alain Rémy, who said the disarmament of the militias that helped overthrow the former government is a central requirement for the European Union to begin disbursing financial aid, along with the government fighting corruption.
Prime Minister Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, who was a staunch supporter of the protesters but never condoned violent tactics, set the deadline for Friday, the day Ukraine is scheduled to sign the political articles of an association agreement with the European Union.
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Good luck with it.
No one in Ukraine is going to surrender their arms.
The common call of the tyrant: “I need your guns.”
They deserve to be slaves. I’m done.
The Maidan Revolution created a rush for every one to acquire arms.
And the new regime just dismantled the Berkut.
The Real Red Dawn.
Defiance: “Without a rifle you are nothing, worthless, you are waiting for death, any minute, any second.” -Tuvia Bielski (from the book ‘Defiance’)
I think I understand.
John McCain’s buddies at work confiscating guns.
Shouldn't the response of the people be: "Come get them?"
Time to take those guns out for a boat ride.
What illegal guns?
I ain’t seen nutin’.
I have been supportive of the new Ukraine up to now. This double stupid retarded move makes me question the intelligence of those now in charge. A smarter thing to do would be to ask for these groups to leave the city and take their arms with them. Thank them for their help and say to them that they need their arms to defend Ukraine proper which is very definitely in jeopardy. Disarming your allies is a very stupid thing to do.
I wonder who are going to enforce it? They have just dismantled their police force and half of the military defected.
The FRENCH Ambassador seconded the order???
Tell the EU, FU.
As if people who just put their guns to good use are going to simply hand them over, anyway.
Well,that worked so well for the Jews in the holocaust.
In this case the Tyrant is the EU and the IMF..
It would appear the IMF’s dirty little fingerprints are all over this latest piece of legislation in Ukraine. The Ukraine Finance Ministry is proposing to take a very-similar-to-Cyprus approach to bailing in its despositors:
*UKRAINE PROPOSES NEW TAX ON DEPOSITS EXCEEDING 100,000 HRYVNIA
*UKRAINE TAX PROPOSAL WOULD INCLUDE 1.5% OF ALL DEPOSITS
This would appear a measure designed to stabilize the budget for potential IMF negotiations and fits perfectly with what the IMF has consistently hinted as the next steps for many nations.
It amazes me how people fly off the proverbial handle over news like this, not knowing who the real culprits are.
Since our government funds the IMF, and others, we and the other funding nations are the ones forcing this action by the new government of Ukraine...
This is how the wonderful and generous nations of the West, fix things..and why they always fail at it unless they are fixing themselves.
Interesting how when faced with potential invasion their new government is more interested in seizing firearms from the populace.
Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.
the disarmament of the militias that helped overthrow the former government
Huh, but I read the Russians were the ones shooting. Oh well, the fog of revolution facts become sketchy.
So, Jim, is this the government SUPPORTED BY OBAMA???
...I have been suspicious of this government....they have the support of OBAMA.
Remember a few weeks ago when Obama’s Deputy SecState and the US ambassador to Ukraine were caught on a phone call saying “F*** the E.U.”? That was a conversation regarding WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE OVER Ukraine if the Yankuovich guy (I think that was him) was overthrown. Yankuovich was Russian leaning, and the EU and Team Obama were each supporting different successors.
My guess is Team Obama wanted a guy who would OBEY their wishes—which apparently includes GUN GRABBING.
What I’m getting on twitter and other sites is the people are refusing to hand over their guns...and rightly so...there is no order in Ukraine...even the gov. officials are struggling in their positions of authority on how to ‘run’ a nation and failing in protecting the people just from the criminal elements, who are taking advantage of the situation
The streets are full of crime currently...even old ladies carrying bats and wooden sticks to protect themselves. Sad to see that but there is much unrest there now, so the gov. is foolish to require people hand over their guns..not going to happen.
Additionally read today that 72 Ukraine Military Officers along with about 50% of the men have joined with Russia....and those who remained under Ukraine’s gov. are not getting orders and communication unclear at best.
It’s a mess there.....while they watch Putin securing up Crimea with everything they need..from generators to utility vehicles trucks and all in between. ....and it’s not just Putin..the Russian people are sending supplies etc.
For all this I think there will be an exodus of people from Ukraine at least temporarily.
Thanks for that link.....added the movie to my Netflix queue.
There is a great quote over there:
Edmund Burke reconsidered in the light of 20th Century funeral pyres.
“Remember: Evil exists because good men don’t kill the government officials committing it.” — Kurt Hofmann.
And of course if the question is “What evil?” Rummel has the answer.
The people of Ukraine are about to be fleeced if they stand for it. Lets consolidate more countries and saddle them with debt to the IMF/EU. We’ll show them how to fix their economies with top down control.
Oh, please turn in your guns and we will approve your loans.
Whose side are we on again? The new rebel government or the elected government of the now deposed President Viktor Yanukovych?
I hate to say that you've been conned, but you have been.
Which leads me to believe that the new government doesn't really fear a potential invasion at all.
1st Crimea, next America?
Come and take them baby.
Yes some have been conned. This whole situation has set off my alarm bells while freepers call me a communist.
How many more Ukrainians will petition Russia to return?
Agreed; I won’t give up my weapons.
What’s happening in the Ukraine should be a wake up call to their immediate neighbors, Europe, and us here.
Look at the pattern, the first thing dictators/power-grabbers et al do is try and disarm the populace.
An armed society is a free society.
Remember Leonidas words to the Persian king: “Molon labe”
There’s no good guys in this, but Russia is, at the very minimum, behaving like a sane country.
Molon Labe was my first thought as I read the headline. I wonder how you say that in Ukranian?
This sure won’t be a wake-up call for the rest of Europe. Europeans have been completely disarmed for decades.
You’re right about that.
Приходьте і отримаєте їх!
Youre right about that.
Further -- what with the behavior of Europe and America -- acting sane is enough.
I hope everyone can now see that the US and the EU ARE forming the New World Order. They will take the guns because they are going to be as bad or worse than the Old Soviets.
They are taking advantage of Ukranians.
First, Russia is opposing the New World Order of Obama/EU/Soros, hence the demonization of Russia in the media.
Second, the EU/US used these neo-Nazis to overthrow the freely-elected (albeit corrupt) prior Ukrainian government. These guys were the foot soldiers. They are not giving up their guns or the ones they seized from the armories.
Third, the EU/US have broken Ukraine and won’t be able to fix it.
Then, the powers that be that wanted regime change to go their way, want the power to be theirs, not the group that did the dirty work. In Libya, the violent groups aren't going easily. Remember NATO voted for airstrikes "so the protestors could go home peacefully" and then used that to oust Khaddafi when the protests failed? In Egypt, it took the military to clean up the mess when the Muslim Brotherhood gained control of the gov and over-reached. In Syria, those intent on violent coup won't stop, even if they level the country.
And now, same playbook. The thugs staged a violent coup (those burning tires are something that would've gotten them shot in any US city except a few crazier ones) and the puppet government is saying they should just hand in their guns, go back home, and oh by the way be exploited by globalist bankers and power brokers.
Should it concern us? Of course. Our troops belong on our southern border and the invaders need to be sent home before someone sees advantage in having their protests go violent.
Thanks Laz, you command a wealth of information!