Posted on 03/22/2014 2:46:47 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
How much weight should our opposition to abortion carry in our voting decisions?
God calls us to think His thoughts after Him. That means all of His thoughts. That is, we ought to have a sound and biblical view on everything the Bible touches on. Where it touches on political issues, we are called, again to have sound biblical views. We need to think biblically about what is just war and what is not. We need to think faithfully about taxation, and the size and scope of government. We need to think through what obligation, if any the state has to protect property, to protect our lives.
That said, there are precious few things that frustrate me more about the evangelical right than its utter foolishness with respect to proportion politically. We bundle together this issue and that, everything from tax rates to school vouchers to flag burning to abortion, and call it “family values.” There is a right and a wrong answer on all these issues. But abortion is not like any of the others. It stands out all on its own. In a hundred years, the Christian church will not hang its head in shame that it did so little to pass a Constitutional Amendment against the burning of the flag. In a hundred years, no elderly Christian will be looked at with suspicion by the younger generation because they didn’t do more to lower the tax rate. In a hundred years, if God should be so gracious, we will be looked upon as that godless generation of the church that watched tens of millions of babies go to their deaths. Indeed, we’ll be remembered as those “Christians” who elected men to office who believed that the state ought to protect the rights of some mothers to murder their babies.
It is unfair to draw too tight a comparison between abortion in America and the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. There are significant differences. First, the Holocaust was carried out, by and large, in secret. The rank and file Germans had no idea what was going on. We, on the other hand, every last one of us, woke up today knowing that four thousand babies would die today. We, on the other hand, have four thousand mothers, every day, who knowingly do this. We, on the other hand, have four thousand fathers, boyfriends and husbands who every day encourage this. The Holocaust lasted roughly ten years, and the Nazi’s killed roughly six million people. We, on the other hand, have been at this for 35 years, and have killed more than fifty million babies. It is an unfair comparison, unfair to the Nazis. We are far worse monsters.
How much weight should our opposition carry? I have purposed in my heart that I would never vote for a man for any office that is not committed to using every power at his disposal to protect and defend every unborn child. Never. Ever. If every Christian would simply make that simple pledge, then we would win this battle. As it stands, at best we vote for candidates who might nominate or support judicial candidates who might vote for this small impediment or that to abortion on demand. At worst, we vote for the guy with the R by his name. We need to get rid of our strategies, and get on our knees in repentance. We need to stop negotiating with candidates over the bodies of dead babies.
Rand and Daddy are pro-lifers, may be varying degrees of that but per Rand Paul, he definitely is and has sought out “life at conception” legislation if one talks of “Libertarians”.
http://www.prolifealliance.org/
Wanting the government out of it is a nice thought but it is not realistic as things stand.
I caught a small bit of Michael Medved’s show, he was saying something like even the unborn have DNA, DNA every person has.
“What the pro-life movement has achieved is cutting the level of abortion in the United States to its lowest point in 30 years.”
The audience erupted in applause at the good news.
Medved was one of four speakers on a panel moderated by socially conservative CitizenLink President Tom Minnery titled “Can Libertarians and Social Conservatives Ever Get Along?” The three other panelists were Dr. Matthew Spalding, associate vice president and dean of educational programs for Hillsdale College; Matt Welch, editor-in-chief of Reason magazine; and Alexander McCobin, president of Students for Liberty.
According to the most recent study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of reported abortions performed in the U.S. in 2010 decreased by 3 percent compared to 2009.
That decrease came on top of a 5 percent fall the year before, which “represented the largest single-year decrease in the total number and rate of reported abortions,” since CDC began the survey in 2000.”
- See more at: http://rare.us/story/conservative-radio-host-pro-life-movement-example-of-successful-conservative-libertarian-partnership/#sthash.cdO6gRPz.dpuf
Seems like small percentages but still.
tremendous weight. next question.
I guess you have to ask yourself how much you care about
helpless human beings being slaughtered.
“Pro-life advocates correctly point out that the child inside is clearly not her body, rather an independent human being with his own rights.”
That is tru, as we now know from a biological perspective. The mother can miscarry if the fetus’s immune system is not strong enough to withstand the attack from the mother’s killer t-cells.
That fact alone states, biologically, that the child growing inside her is a separate human being, not her flesh to do as she pleases.
Abortion IS murder.
Once I understood the biology behind it, there was no longer a thought on this topic
It is black and white.
And this is where the problem lies.
As of late, candidates who are uncompromising in their opposition to abortion tend to lose to candidates who are uncompromising in their support of abortion.
“Pro-life advocates correctly point out that the child inside is clearly not her body, rather an independent human being with his own rights.”
That is tru, as we now know from a biological perspective. The mother can miscarry if the fetus’s immune system is not strong enough to withstand the attack from the mother’s killer t-cells.
That fact alone states, biologically, that the child growing inside her is a separate human being, not her flesh to do as she pleases.
Abortion IS murder.
Once I understood the biology behind it, there was no longer a thought on this topic
It is black and white.
I often wondered why we don’t go to the Supreme Court again. Technology is on our side. Slavery was once legal, but that was corrected. We have to start thinking in a new way to fight this battle and others that affect our faith.
That depends and I’d say not really especially if one keeps up with the news.
Texas and Rick Perry have been signing anti-abortion legislation, Wisconsin Republicans and Scott Walker have passed anti-abortion and anti-planned parenthood legislation. It’s even happened in New Jersey with Governor Christie defunding Democrat party puppetmaster Planned Parenthood. So, statewise, I believe a lot of pro-life progress has been made, Mississippi has only one clinic in the whole state, that’s pretty much the case for Missouri too.
So you have your pro-life states and then, on the other hand, you have what are your pro-choice states.
There are a number of Republicans that get criticized but if they have taken a stand for life as some of the above mentioned have, I definitely commend them. And make no doubt about it, they stick their neck out for the cause of life.
Senators Rand Paul and Roger Wicker, Jim Jordan, Congressman Steve Stockman, the list goes on as shown at this website: http://www.prolifealliance.org/
I do not vote for democrats.
Ever.
The democrat party is the party of death.
About half of Republicans are also death eaters.
Rand has come out against social conservatism though, and taking a gay marriage stance.
I question his sincerity. When a politician claims to believe something deeply, but pursues an agenda that makes his claimed goal impossible, then something doesn’t add up.
No, stop being so mean.
What we should be doing is getting two amendments added to the U.S.Constitution. One, declaring that all humans from the time of conception have the right to life; and two, another amendment declaring that marriage is strictly monogamous and between a man and a woman.
This means that any abortion performed to save a woman’s life must be an act of self-defense in order to negate doctors being charged with murder.
The one for marriage speaks for itself.
Without these two amendments added to the U.S.Constitution, activist lawyers can invent nearly anything to screw over Conservative values.
How about a law that declares that the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being beginning at the moment of fertilization, cloning, or other moment at which an individual comes into being.
H.R.1091 - Life at Conception Act
Roe v. Wade would become completely irrelevant. Just a court decision that no longer applied.
Don’t forget that the libertarian position is that ZERO restraints or limits be put on a woman’s “liberty to choose”, at any point, at any time before actual delivery.
I haven’t forgotten ... I generally pay no attention to the Libertarian Party. It seems to be the party of pot and pr0n.
I frequently must simply cast no vote for a particular office, as none of the candidates are worth anything.
While we are waiting for the Constitution to be changed, we can support and demand politicians and a party platform and philosophy, that will fight abortion and gay marriage at every level of government, from city hall to the federal government.
That means no libertarians.
It isn’t the libertarian party that is the threat, it is the libertarian efforts to defeat conservatism within the GOP and change the party platform, that is the threat.
Libertarians are using a new vocabulary and conservative terms and phrases to promote a liberal agenda against conservatism, to drive God and traditional Americanism, out of politics entirely.
But the greatest mass-murderer of all may very well be Rachel Carson.
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Never thought about it that way.
I remember as a small child, my dear, late, mother speaking to me with approval of the banning of DDT.
Of course, I confess that
bought into the idea myself for many decades.
I agree that this is a state issue but we need to win national elections to appoint Federal judges who believe that this is a state issue.
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... That, and we need to impeach many of the liberal propagandists currently masquerading as “judges.”
As of late, candidates who are uncompromising in their opposition to abortion tend to lose to candidates who are uncompromising in their support of abortion.
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You are describing national and societal decline.
Progressives never back down. Nor should we. We should be educating people, not trying to be clever.
My take, anyway.
Abortion is murder. Nothing to back away from or soft-peddle.
Thanks. I’ve never heard of HR1091. This really gives me hope. I hope you don’t mind, but I posted your explanation on the HR 1091 bill comments. Don’t worry I did not put your name there.
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