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Iran’s replica of a US aircraft carrier puzzles Navy officials
Stars and Stripes ^ | Mar 21, 2014 | By Hendrick Simoes

Posted on 03/22/2014 3:01:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

MANAMA, Bahrain — Iran is building a replica of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier at a shipyard on the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz, U.S. 5th Fleet officials said.

The mock-up of the aircraft carrier was first noticed last summer, 5th Fleet officials said, but it wasn’t until February that they saw the number 68 painted on it — the same number of the USS Nimitz, which was deployed in the region last summer.

“It’s interesting to us that they would be building something like this ... this is a head-scratcher more than anything,” said Cmdr Jason Salata, Navy 5th Fleet spokesman. He said the Navy is not particularly concerned about it.

The New York Times first reported on the mysterious vessel on Thursday.

A recent commercial satellite image shows the vessel with similar lines painted on top of it that a real aircraft carrier might have. There also appear to be three aircraft atop the structure.

Officials believe the mock-up is comprised of barges with steel construction to replicate the hull, and superstructure of a carrier. It’s about two-thirds the size of an actual Nimitz class carrier, which is about 1,092 feet in length.

Navy officials said they are sure it’s not a real aircraft carrier, but they are puzzled about Iran’s intent in replicating such a large American warship.

“If it’s designed for strategic effect, to what effect?” Salata said. The New York Times suggested Iran might use it to make a propaganda point, possibly to fire a missile at it as part a training exercise to be broadcast on state-run media.

Other countries, including the United States, have used land runways to simulate carrier operations. China has even built a mock-up of its sole carrier atop a training building near Wuhan, about 400 miles inland from the East China Sea. That facility appears intended to train crews in handling aircraft, logistics and weapons, as well as hangar placements.

The continuing rapprochement between Iran and the United States and its Western allies has been highlighted by the interim nuclear deal reached last November by which Tehran agreed to halt certain nuclear activities in exchange for limited relief from sanctions. Negotiations are continuing on a comprehensive accord that would ensure that Iran’s civilian nuclear program could not be used for military purposes.

As talks on Iran’s nuclear program continue next month in Vienna, the political and security situations in the Persian Gulf region remain delicate. Despite the winding down of the war in Afghanistan, U.S. officials have sought in recent months to reassure Gulf allies that the U.S. is fully committed to the region, irking Iranian officials who question America’s motives.

Earlier this month Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif criticized the U.S. military posture in the Persian Gulf in a meeting with reporters in Tokyo.

“We do not believe presence of foreign forces is conducive to security,” he said.

This spring, two more U.S. Coastal Patrol ships are expected to homeport at the U.S. naval base in Bahrain, which is in the midst of a $260 million expansion.

The U.S. Navy is not seeking confrontation in the Gulf, said Salata.

“We feel that there is a balance of force that we need to do our mission,” which Navy officials commonly describes as partnering with allies in the region for maritime security.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; iran; israel; lebanon; russia; syria; waronterror
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To: Billthedrill; Jet Jaguar
They’re rehearsing to steal it.

You fool! That's only half of the plan! They plan to steal it and replace it with their infernal doppelganger!

61 posted on 03/22/2014 3:57:11 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Kamikaze planes were nearly entirely a waste of resources, even though they did damage and killed US servicepeole; the kamikaze boats were one big fiasco. It’s amazing what people can talk themselves into, right up through a hierarchy, even when the data shows they’re dead wrong. :’) During the Battle of Okinawa, the nearly complete failure of kamikaze attacks was ignored by “noble” suicide-seeking residue from the premodern traditions.


62 posted on 03/22/2014 3:57:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jet Jaguar

ASBM target practice maybe?


64 posted on 03/22/2014 3:58:02 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Billthedrill

They are maneuverable in the final phase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21


65 posted on 03/22/2014 4:00:26 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Alex Murphy
They plan to steal it and replace it with their infernal doppelganger!

I will admit under pressure to a very salubrious evening in Vancouver when I directed the taxi driver not only to the wrong ship, but to the wrong dock. It was an easy mistake to make - big, steel-looking thingy...

66 posted on 03/22/2014 4:00:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Alex Murphy
That would be the wrong dock in the wrong part of town. And the taxi driver turned off the meter and got me to the right one. God bless the Canucks.
67 posted on 03/22/2014 4:02:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: F15Eagle
No because you’re typical of n00bs who do such things.

Can't speak for others. But it isn't surprising to me that people question your posts.

68 posted on 03/22/2014 4:02:36 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Billthedrill; rabidralph

Anti-ship missiles are currently the greatest threat to aircraft carriers.

Both the Russians and the Chinese have them. Apparently, we do not have much defense for them (though I hope I am incorrect here).

My guess is that Iran is in possession of some of those “toys.”

So, yes, target practice. Just as the AF uses (or, at least, used to use) pull older, decommissioned planes behind real jets (on VERY long tethers) for target practice, or so I would assume.


69 posted on 03/22/2014 4:03:07 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Lower Deck

I think we can eliminate the idea that it is a homage.


71 posted on 03/22/2014 4:11:41 PM PDT by xp38
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am reminded of a line from Search for the Holy Grail: “It’s only a model.”


72 posted on 03/22/2014 4:11:44 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: man_in_tx

The such target practice aircraft are rigged for remote control.


73 posted on 03/22/2014 4:14:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s a Trojan Horse. Didn’t anyone watch Monty Python?


74 posted on 03/22/2014 4:19:15 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: Rockingham

It might also be used for the new for of voodo that they African tribes have combined with Islam to createa new deadly form of witchcraft. They do use dolls and other types of replicas for that type of “magic”. Since our leadership has obviosly gone pagan by default we don’t have the same protections that we had previously. Just a thought.


75 posted on 03/22/2014 4:21:48 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Lower Deck
Which is, of course, why the U.S. Navy is busy building a 2/3rd size mockup of the Chinese carrier to train it's pilots.

Actually, all of the US Navy Deck Apes are busy attending Diversity Classes, so there is no one available to build replicas of a Chinese carrier.

And US domestic shipyards could not do the job - there is a 10 year waiting list for applications for the forms to file the Environmental Impact Statement.

And....(the list goes on...)

76 posted on 03/22/2014 4:24:32 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Jet Jaguar

They could be building it for a movie.

Same thing Paramount did when filming Hunt For Red October. They were given carte blanche access (at a price) to just about anything the USN could provide. But they knew better than to ask the Soviets for access to a Typhoon-class ballistic missile submarine.

So they built one. 1:1 scale waterline replica that sat on top of barges. Sounds very similar to what the Iranians are doing here.


77 posted on 03/22/2014 4:24:37 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: All

After 75 posts not one is on target. Consider, Iran is a primitive culture. They are motivated by magic. Think about the tribes in the south seas during the war.
Now, make the leap:
It is a cargo cult replica intended to trick planes and supply ships to bring their goodies.


78 posted on 03/22/2014 4:26:39 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: F15Eagle

“Neither did the Japanese making a mock-up of Pearl Harbor.

Unless...”

Perhaps they want to test their Sunburn and Yakhonts missiles. It’s pretty well acknowledged that the US has no credible defense for them. Read this article, then decide if you think our carriers are at risk:

http://beforeitsnews.com/iran/2013/08/the-ss-n-22-sunburn-irans-awesome-anti-ship-missile-the-weapon-that-could-defeat-the-us-in-the-gulf-2436696.html

The unquestioning meme that the US is invincible brings to mind “Pride goeth before a fall”...


79 posted on 03/22/2014 4:28:17 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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