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AP: Three years after US-NATO intervention, Libya is a failed state
HotAir ^ | 03-22-2014 | Morrissey

Posted on 03/22/2014 4:18:11 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

An anniversary passed this week that went almost completely unremarked — and for good reason. March 17th marked the three-year anniversary of the UN Security Council resolution imposing a no-fly zone over Libya to stop the Moammar Qaddafi regime from attacking rebel-held Benghazi and Ajdabiya, and the three-year anniversary on the 19th of the NATO war on Libya. French, British, and American planes began bombarding the Qaddafi regime, an air war that would continue for months — while Barack Obama refused to request Congressional approval for it. Later, Obama would claim that Libya represented the smart model of Western intervention.

If so, why did these anniversaries pass unremarked? The Associated Press report on the status of Libya today gives a very good answer, although it is not written as such. Libya has become a failed state, where the government’s writ doesn’t run outside of its capital, and not even everywhere within that. Not only is it a dangerous place, but it is a danger to the surrounding nations in north Africa too:

Libya, where hundreds of militias hold sway and the central government is virtually powerless, is awash in millions of weapons with no control over their trafficking. The arms free-for-all fuels not only Libya’s instability but also stokes conflicts around the region as guns are smuggled through the country’s wide-open borders to militants fighting in insurgencies and wars stretching from Syria to West Africa.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Syria
KEYWORDS: benghazi; egypt; europeanunion; fail; gaddafi; iran; lebanon; libya; nato; oup; putinsbuttboys; randsconcerntrolls; russia; shoresoftripoli; syria; usmarines
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To: PaulCruz2016

And Kosovo is even worse.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 4:59:24 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Star Traveler
It wasn’t a failed state when Muammar al-Gaddafi was running the place. Obama should have kept his nose out of there because it was none of his business.

It seems all these tin horn dictators have banana republic type countries, but aren't they all worse off now than they were before?

22 posted on 03/22/2014 5:02:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: PaulCruz2016

23 posted on 03/22/2014 5:09:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: PaulCruz2016

So, Obama has destroyed Egypt, Libya and tried to destroy Syria.......with American taxpayer money. Yet, Putin rules the world. Obama has broken a lot since coming to power......yet it is ALWAYS someone else’s fault!


24 posted on 03/22/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: PaulCruz2016


25 posted on 03/22/2014 5:28:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: PaulCruz2016

As usual, the keyboard warrior Ed Morrissey gets it wrong. Unlike Ed the dope, I worked with Israeli companies as a contractor when the Libyan civil war started.

The NATO bombing had squat to do with Quaddafi’s demise. Quaddafi messed up by ordering his army to kill Libyans. When the army refused and 75% of them told Quaddafi to go FYU, he sealed his fate.

Then that idiot SOB ordered his southern mercenary army, made up of idiot, poor African immigrants, to go kill Libyans.

The country exploded in rage after the mercenaries killed students at the universities.

The Army deserters, who raided and emptied the armories, joined the provincial militias. The rest is history. The NWO hero Quaddafi, admired by Hillary and obuma, ended up dead on the hood of an SUV, shot dead with his own gold-plated glock.

The Israelis were monitoring Hillary, and she went bat-chit crazy after she learned that her Nazi buddy Quaddafi got shot dead. She wanted the UN to indict Libyan army deserters for crimes against humanity.

The Libyan incident was an exercise that scared the crap out of the NWO fascists. The NWO pigs like Hillary, Soros, Obama and Bush knew that they had lost control. It scared the hell out of them.


26 posted on 03/22/2014 5:29:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

That’s not how I remember it.

1. Gaddafi was winning in March 2011. His forces wiped out all rebel gains, and were on the outskirts of the city that started the rebellion (Benghazi) when, at the 11th hour, the U.N. allowed for a no-fly zone, and France immediately blew up all his tanks and artillery surrounding the city, and prevented him from using his air force anymore.

2. After that intervention, the war dragged on for another seven months, despite the world’s elite air powers essentially acting as the rebels’ own personal air force.

Sorry, but it’s really hard to imagine the rebels having won without the foreign intervention they received.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 5:44:06 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

That’s not how I remember it.’

Remember what? Some incipient news report that you favor.

That’s okay. You weren’t there.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 5:51:14 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: dfwgator

We could ask the same about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. I mean with all the sectarian fighting, Al-Qaeda making strategic headway and now 9 year old brides? US lives and/or money would appear to buy the best problems possible!

And don`t look now but we have many people, some on this forum, that want to do a wash and repeat in the Ukraine. I wonder which economic collapse would be better, one driven by militarism or one driven by a welfare society?


29 posted on 03/22/2014 6:08:36 PM PDT by nomad
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To: PaulCruz2016

Oh yeah - The Nobama Spring


30 posted on 03/22/2014 6:16:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: dforest
"The Obama admin sends advance agitators to stir up people to overthrow their current regime. Their tactics always find the the worse excuses for humans, but Obama regime doesn’t care. The O admin isn’t picky about the scum they side with as long as the scum agrees to be a puppet of the NWO."

The Washington way of "spreading democracy", as it was on its way on Maidan place in Kiew, with cocktail Molotov, bats and guns.


31 posted on 03/22/2014 6:17:57 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

BTTT


32 posted on 03/22/2014 6:33:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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33 posted on 03/22/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sergeantdave

Notice you didn’t dispute anything I wrote. I can post actual news reports and sources backing up what I wrote, you can just say “I remember”.

You seem to think standing in the general vicinity makes you some sort of expert, and that’s laughable.


34 posted on 03/22/2014 6:37:19 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: entropy12

A quote is attributed to Qaddafi along the lines of “If it wasn’t for me, the mobs would be running wild in the street.”

Don’t know if true or not, but, if so he pretty well had his country pegged.


35 posted on 03/22/2014 6:39:22 PM PDT by FAA
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To: FAA
Don’t know if true or not, but, if so he pretty well had his country pegged.

It is true of Assad in Syria, and was true with Saddam in Iraq.

It's just the nature of the beast in that part of the world, it's naive to think otherwise.

36 posted on 03/22/2014 6:40:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PaulCruz2016

You seem to think standing in the general vicinity makes you some sort of expert, and that’s laughable.

You seem to think that reading news stories makes you a genuis, but that actually makes you a blathering left-wing moron.


37 posted on 03/22/2014 6:45:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: FAA

A quote is attributed to Qaddafi along the lines of “If it wasn’t for me, the mobs would be running wild in the street.”

Hosni Mubarak of Egypt told them much the same - I’m paraphrasing “If you don’t want me, you will get islamists, Muslim Brotherhood, and chaos”


38 posted on 03/22/2014 6:46:13 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

I remember reading reports from Iraq after the invasion that the Iraqi perception of “freedom” was not the same as ours. To them it seemed that freedom was doing whatever you wanted, whenever you wanted, and, to whoever you wanted to. Rules were out the window and repercussion was no longer feared because they were now “free.”

In all of the “Arab Spring” states we see something not unlike that mindset showing itself.


39 posted on 03/22/2014 6:55:35 PM PDT by FAA
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To: PaulCruz2016

..........we can apply Hillary Clinton’s most famous epithet to this one................”at this point, what difference does it make?”


40 posted on 03/22/2014 7:29:34 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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