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Dwarf planet discovery hints at a hidden Super Earth in solar system
Guardian ^

Posted on 03/29/2014 1:03:08 AM PDT by chessplayer

Astronomers have increased the size of the observable solar system after spotting a 450-km wide object orbiting the sun.

The lump of ice and rock circles the sun at a greater distance than any known object, and never gets closer than 12bn kilometres – 80 times the distance from Earth to the sun.

If its size is confirmed it could qualify as a dwarf planet in the same category as Pluto.

Though exciting in its own right, the discovery raises a more tantalising prospect for many astronomers: that a "Super Earth" up to 10 times the mass of our planet orbits the sun at such a great distance that it has never been seen.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: 2012vp113; catastrophism; dwarfplanet; kbo; minorplanet; pinkplanet; xplanets
The undiscovered planet 'Nemesis' has been used to explain regularly occurring mass extinctions.
1 posted on 03/29/2014 1:03:08 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
70+ small earthquakes in California over the last few hours...
2 posted on 03/29/2014 1:07:00 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: chessplayer
Astronomers have increased the size of the observable solar system after spotting a 450-km wide object orbiting the sun.

Maybe they could increase the size of my retirement fund as well.

3 posted on 03/29/2014 1:08:11 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: chessplayer

“Mass extinction comes every 62 million years, UC physicists discover”

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Mass-extinction-comes-every-62-million-years-UC-2693228.php

We’re overdue for another one.


4 posted on 03/29/2014 1:08:52 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yeah, no real american would care about any of this egghead, commie muzzie scientifical crap.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 1:11:07 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It didn’t feel that small.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 1:11:18 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A 5.4 magnitude earthquake occurred 1.24mi E of La Habra, California. Details: http://t.co/QykkcGFLzz Map: http://t.co/wopMePNJP8— LA QuakeBot (@earthquakesLA) March 29, 2014


7 posted on 03/29/2014 1:13:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Chino hills?


8 posted on 03/29/2014 1:22:25 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


9 posted on 03/29/2014 1:29:51 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: chessplayer

Sounds like Planet X / or Niburu redux though.


10 posted on 03/29/2014 1:30:56 AM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: chessplayer

It’s not needed. We’re doing ourselves in quite easily on our own.


11 posted on 03/29/2014 1:32:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: chessplayer
No problem: Round up all our Donkeys and RINOs and send them to colonize “Nemesis” (or Super Earth). It's the only place big enough to contain their bloated egos.
12 posted on 03/29/2014 1:38:46 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: chessplayer
Why are they calling their theoretical planet a super-Earth? I thought that name was reserved for planets habitable by humans.
13 posted on 03/29/2014 1:42:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Guardian = Liberal socialist = duh


14 posted on 03/29/2014 1:55:17 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Olog-hai
Why are they calling their theoretical planet a super-Earth? I thought that name was reserved for planets habitable by humans.

Because it sounds "awesomer," and thus garners more clicks.

Regards,

15 posted on 03/29/2014 2:08:48 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: chessplayer
The undiscovered planet 'Nemesis' has been used to explain regularly occurring mass extinctions.

That theory actually wasn't a planet - it was the theory that there was another star ("Nemesis") orbiting the Sun. That theory has pretty much been discarded.

16 posted on 03/29/2014 2:10:35 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Here in the Philippines, we have quakes most every day. There have been 8 so far today, and it is only 5 PM. Most are 2.5 to 4. The big one a few months ago was an 8.

http://www.phivolcs.dost.gov.ph/html/update_SOEPD/EQLatest.html


17 posted on 03/29/2014 2:16:43 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: alexander_busek

Makes it easier to get grant money?


18 posted on 03/29/2014 2:18:56 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Caused by a whole lot of CA democrats jumping up and down and yelling “no! no! no! no!!!” over the Leland Yee indictment.


19 posted on 03/29/2014 2:30:54 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (It just became a little more difficult to buy a MAC90 in California.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That many, really? I just commented about this on another thread but I don’t see that much on USGS.


20 posted on 03/29/2014 2:48:35 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

The relatively new mapping program we see now at USGS is one that I do not like. The default settings seem different than before and appear to weed out this kind of situation-unless you adjust the settings yourself.


21 posted on 03/29/2014 2:58:32 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

Yeah seems to show only about 10 ... guess I’d have to play with it. I see now he was referring to a Twitter bot, which hits everything.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 3:01:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; SunkenCiv

Copied from DRUDGE.com.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-51-earthquake-causes-damage-some-flee-from-homes-20140329,0,522498.story#axzz2xLYb08tP

By Rong-Gong Lin II and Victoria Kim
March 29, 2014, 12:59 a.m.

Authorities were tallying damage from a magnitude 5.1 earthquake that struck Southern California Friday evening.

Fullerton police said early Saturday that up to 50 people had been displaced because of home damage.

The quake, centered near La Habra, caused furniture to tumble, pictures to fall off walls and glass to break. Merchandise fell off store shelves, and there were reports of plate glass windows shattered.

In Brea, several people suffered minor injuries during a rockslide that overturned their car. Fullerton reported seven water main breaks. Carbon Canyon Road was closed.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-51-earthquake-causes-damage-some-flee-from-homes-20140329,0,522498.story#ixzz2xLZ9UKlP


23 posted on 03/29/2014 3:36:44 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; All

FYI: Earthquake map (current) for L.A.!

http://www.data.scec.org/recenteqs/Maps/Los_Angeles.html


24 posted on 03/29/2014 3:48:42 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: F15Eagle

Switched the one I look at to “1 Day, All Magnitudes Worldwide” and it appears to be more of a swarm.


25 posted on 03/29/2014 4:12:20 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: chessplayer

predicted decades ago in ‘the 12th planet’ by zacharias stichin (probably spelled wrong). he calls the big planet ‘marduk”


26 posted on 03/29/2014 4:25:51 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: chessplayer

There just isn’t much known about the Kuiper belt and beyond.

Personally I don’t think the discovery hints at any massive planet hidden out there. Its possible but not necessary.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 4:35:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: F15Eagle
check this interactive map

RSOE

28 posted on 03/29/2014 4:41:38 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

! here


29 posted on 03/29/2014 5:12:39 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: chessplayer

Must stop solar system warming ......


30 posted on 03/29/2014 5:28:26 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Journalticion -- journalist + politician. Used to be called propagandist.)
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To: chessplayer

“Though exciting in its own right, the discovery raises a more tantalising prospect for many astronomers: that a “Super Earth” up to 10 times the mass of our planet orbits the sun at such a great distance that it has never been seen.”

Sure it has been seen. It originated out of the author’s rear-end, along with the entire premise.

What else is possible now? Let’s see....why stop at 10x the mass of our planet? Since it has never been seen, let’s shoot for a rainbow-colored, unicorn-populated sister planet to gaia, one MILLION times the size of earth, but only visible when you get within 100 miles of its atmosphere.

Sure. That’s the ticket. Let’s make that a new “tantalizing prospect”.
Sheesh.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 5:34:02 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: chessplayer
Closest to the sun are the rocky planets, such as Venus, Earth and Mars.

Also known as Rocky, Rocky II, and Rocky III.

32 posted on 03/29/2014 5:37:24 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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Just adding, not pinging.
 
X-Planets
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Google news searches: exoplanet · exosolar · extrasolar ·

33 posted on 03/29/2014 6:20:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: F15Eagle; Lazamataz
I see now he was referring to a Twitter bot, which hits everything.

This Twitter bot, is it named Laz?

34 posted on 03/29/2014 6:21:10 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: bigheadfred

There’s a lot of dangerous “wins” in Louisiana.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 6:26:29 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: bigheadfred

2.7 in Choctaw, Oklahoma! I hope gramma’s china is ok.


36 posted on 03/29/2014 6:32:08 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

bttt


37 posted on 03/29/2014 6:35:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Super-earth” is a reference to size — the suspected body is larger than Earth, but not the size of one of the gas giants (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune).

Lots of people have had reason to suspect the existence of one, beginning with the discovery of Uranus (the planets up to and including Saturn have been known since ancient times).

For example, Harrington and Van Flandern calculated a planet 2 to 5 earth-masses was responsible for the disturbed Neptunian moon system; at the time they wrote that paper they also regarded Pluto as an escaped moon of Neptune.

Neptune’s variability from its ephemeris was a one-time event, and led to the search for and discovery of Pluto. Pluto turned out to be too small to account for the disturbance of Neptune, so the search for an unknown has continued. Tombaugh himself surveyed the ecliptic for years after his discovery of Pluto, and was convinced that nothing was there down to something like 12th magnitude.

Pluto’s discovery was a very lucky break, because it’s inclined out of the ecliptic, as are most of the so-called KBOs (my guess is, the Kuiper Belt Object nomenclature will be abandoned in time, at least as applied to these ‘dwarf planets’).

I think there was at least one pre-discovery observation of Pluto found in a survey of older observations (iow, it got missed by someone; the practice of looking for pre-discovery observations helps in determining the orbit of the object with greater precision). Galileo is known to have observed Neptune and not realized it, and some believe that he actually knew it but never got credit for it.

http://www.space.com/6941-theory-galileo-discovered-neptune.html


38 posted on 03/29/2014 6:36:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: John W

Being back the aftershock prediction page too!


39 posted on 03/29/2014 6:36:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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More about Nemesis from the FRchives:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1962278/replies?c=46

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1670395/replies?c=81

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2188731/replies?c=43


40 posted on 03/29/2014 6:40:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
White House touts ‘Fox News addict’ who loves ObamaCare -- only $62 a month, best plan he's ever had.
41 posted on 03/29/2014 6:42:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: WhiskeyX; alexander_busek; PastorBooks; ImaGraftedBranch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3138632/posts?page=38#38


42 posted on 03/29/2014 6:45:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Republican1795.; camle

Sitchin’s “12th Planet” was nonsense, but this 450 mile diameter asteroid wouldn’t be it, in any case.


43 posted on 03/29/2014 6:47:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: SunkenCiv

TNO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Neptunian_object


44 posted on 03/29/2014 7:11:57 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: chessplayer
Dwarf planet discovery hints at a hidden Super Earth in solar system

I believe that they are [unofficially] referring to this dwarf planet as "Biden" - (must refer to his dwarf brain) - and I'd like to send him there.

45 posted on 03/29/2014 7:19:18 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: chessplayer

Aw this is old hat. Zecharia Sitchin told us about this years ago.


46 posted on 03/29/2014 7:35:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Republican1795.

I think Niburu does not sweep back through our solar system for 14,000 more years, so we are safe for now.


47 posted on 03/29/2014 7:36:50 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: chessplayer

I don’t get it. How does this make muslims feel good about themselves. Or is this not a NASA program?


48 posted on 03/29/2014 11:38:04 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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related:

Far-Flung Space Crash May Help Solve Mystery of Moon’s Formation
National Geographic News | March 15, 2007 | Richard A. Lovett
Posted on 6/17/2007 12:45:48 AM by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1851547/posts


49 posted on 04/02/2014 11:29:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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