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Maybe Bailing on Immigration Reform Actually Worked Out Well for Republicans
The Wire ^ | MAR 31, 2014 10:38AM ET / POLITICS | Allie Jones

Posted on 04/01/2014 7:59:53 PM PDT by 11th_VA

In June 2013, a bipartisan group of senators (including presidential hopeful Marco Rubio) passed a comprehensive immigration reform bill that President Obama promised to sign. Since then, Republicans have worked hard to distance themselves from that bill — Rubio stopped talking about it altogether, and Speaker of the House John Boehner says he won't bring it to the House floor. Now many Latinos are so disillusioned that they don't want to vote at all, making Boehner and the gang's gamble all too worth it.

The New York Times noted Sunday that "immigrant-rights advocates report mounting disillusionment with both parties among Latinos, enough to threaten recent gains in voting participation that have reshaped politics to Democrats’ advantage nationally."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; illegals; immigrationreform; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; randnesty; randpaul
I love it when a plan comes together ...
1 posted on 04/01/2014 7:59:53 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

We need to go for “real” border control as soon as we have the votes to do it.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 8:04:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 11th_VA

Yep, passing any amnesty would have got Dems (Obama) all the credit, and set the GOP off into civil war.

Rubio actually tried to suggest that Obama would hate that Senate amnesty bill so much that he might veto it.


3 posted on 04/01/2014 8:07:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

In the back of my mind, I actually thought this might happen ... as long as the ‘Stupid Party’ didn’t screw it up ...


4 posted on 04/01/2014 8:09:59 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: 11th_VA

Maybe they’re not one issue voters after all.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 8:11:12 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 11th_VA

When was the last time AN AMERICAN came up to you and said, “We really need immigration reform!” LOL!


6 posted on 04/01/2014 8:14:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Happy Brain Injury Awareness Month!)
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To: 11th_VA

So the stupid party blunders into victory?


7 posted on 04/01/2014 8:18:32 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 11th_VA

11, don’t you worry, the Stupid Party will still manage to grab defeat out of the jaws of victory. They want amnesty just as bad as Obama.


8 posted on 04/01/2014 8:20:54 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: 11th_VA; Perdogg
RE:”In the back of my mind, I actually thought this might happen ... as long as the ‘Stupid Party’ didn’t screw it up .”

Once we got into September it was pretty much over.

The budget, debt limit, the Obamacare rollover and all the endless Obama command orders delaying parts of it .

No incentive to strike a deal with Obama on a non-crisis item, one he would get all the credit for.

9 posted on 04/01/2014 8:21:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: 11th_VA
"The New York Times noted Sunday that "immigrant-rights advocates report mounting disillusionment with both parties among Latinos, enough to threaten recent gains in voting participation that have reshaped politics to Democrats’ advantage nationally."

NSS.

10 posted on 04/01/2014 8:21:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 11th_VA

I think Boehner is waiting until after the primaries to bring it to the floor for a vote. It will pass with all the dems voting for it and about 18 traitor republicans. Boehner wants to pass it and he will ignore the Hastert rule just like he did with the debt ceiling bill.

Boehner is waiting until after the primaries because many republicans have asked him to wait. They want to campaign they are against amnesty while they win their respective primaries. Then after they win they will switch direction and come out for the immigration bill which Boehner says is not amnesty because illegals have to pay a fine and agree to learn English. Boehner is brain damaged likely from his alcoholism.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 8:23:32 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

If that happens the GOP deserves to vanish on Election Day


12 posted on 04/01/2014 8:24:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Hostage

I hope your wrong but ... he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed either ...


13 posted on 04/01/2014 8:26:21 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: 11th_VA

14 posted on 04/01/2014 8:28:06 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: 11th_VA
"immigrant-rights advocates report mounting disillusionment with both parties among Latinos"

For different reasons, but I guess now they're just like the rest of us - "disillusioned with both parties..."

15 posted on 04/01/2014 8:54:37 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: 11th_VA

Maybe, but I still haven’t forgotten the earlier stories about how Boner and other RINOs planned to lay low on amnesty for illegals until after all the Republican primaries.

Still seven months until the November general election.


16 posted on 04/02/2014 5:11:53 AM PDT by Will88
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks 11th_VA.
Now many Latinos are so disillusioned that they don't want to vote at all, making Boehner and the gang's gamble all too worth it. The New York Times noted Sunday that "immigrant-rights advocates report mounting disillusionment with both parties among Latinos, enough to threaten recent gains in voting participation that have reshaped politics to Democrats’ advantage nationally."
Obamacare also reamed their asses, as did the Obama tax hikes (since we've all heard that canard that illegals pay income taxes blah blah blah), and as will the Obama military cuts.
17 posted on 04/02/2014 8:57:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: 11th_VA

I’ve never met the person - democrat or Republican- who wants a bunch of illegals flooding our shores. NOT ONE Person.

I see them on TV... I see them on the Sunday News shows. But in my real life I have never met ONE.

Any other freepers. Anyone met a person who wants a bunch of illegals here?


18 posted on 04/02/2014 12:37:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
When was the last time AN AMERICAN came up to you and said, “We really need immigration reform!” LOL!

Never. It's never happened...

19 posted on 04/02/2014 12:41:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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To: GOPJ; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; sickoflibs
Nice going, Democrats. You managed to scare off your latino voting base while being forever tarred as the party of extortionists, murderers, felons and predators.

Americans will not forget that Democrats aided and abetted rampant crime and law-breaking:

<><> nativist illegals cashing multiple govt checks using stolen SS numbers,

<><> nativist illegals falsifying govt documents to get US benefits,

<><> nativist illegals not paying taxes on all of their income,

<><> nativist illegals using stolen SS numbers,

<><> nativist illegals using faked driver's licenses,

<><> nativist illegals receiving payment(s) from foreign entities,

<><> nativist illegals receiving payments from tax-exempt latino groups,

<><> nativist illegals listed as lobbyists for latino pressure groups,

<><> nativist illegals filing multiple EITC refund forms,

<><> nativist illegals fasifying EITC apps listing non-existent children,

<><> nativist illegals w/ rap sheets here, or in a foreign land,

<><> nativist illegals who are members of violent reconquista groups,

<><> nativist illegals actively undermining US ntl security.

20 posted on 04/02/2014 4:33:39 PM PDT by Liz
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To: GOPJ

My libertarian niece thinks wetbacks should be allowed to stay and become citizens. She also supports gay marriage and pot legalization.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 10:14:22 AM PDT by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: DangerZone
If your niece knows how to do math show her the numbers. Not even all the numbers - just count the poor illiterate people in the world who would sell their mother's kidney to live here. Then ask her if we should take all of them... and if not ALL, why not.

Did you know there are more people in China with the last name of ‘Wong’ then there are citizens in the United States? And that's only one country - and they're NOT third world...

22 posted on 04/03/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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To: DangerZone
You've talked with her... has she ever given a reason why she thinks our borders should NOT be protected? I've never met someone like your niece, so I'm curious...

. Does she put up strangers in her own home? Does she run a company that uses cheap labor and exploits those who can't defend themselves?

Or does she hire people to clean her home and mow her yard and pays them $4 an hour? That's what illegals are paid where I live. It's a form of slavery - and the people are afraid to complain because they can get turned in.. I hope your niece isn't like that...

23 posted on 04/03/2014 11:31:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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To: GOPJ
Hell, I've met illegals who say America has too many illegals. I kid you not.

These are people who actually entertain notions of becoming legalized and getting on the pathway to citizenship. But they wonder aloud if it is even worth it.

As citizens, they would be required to pay taxes. As illegals, they can come and go as they please. But they complain that open borders drives down their wages as well. That makes them a lot smarter than your average open borders politician.

24 posted on 04/03/2014 12:54:12 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
I've met illegals who say America has to many illegals

So have I. And then there's the Puerto Ricans who say we don't need illegals to do jobs that legal Puerto Ricans can do.

It gets weird around here. Serbs think there are too many hispanics, Mexicans think there are too many other hispanics, mideasterners think there are too many African "refugees".... And everybody agrees we don't need Mexican drug cartels messing up their messed up neighborhoods.

They're all correct.

25 posted on 04/03/2014 1:03:27 PM PDT by grania
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To: Vigilanteman
But they complain that open borders drives down their wages as well. That makes them a lot smarter than your average open borders politician.

Also Hispanics have been accepted a full Americans for years - as American as the Irish or anyone else. But when the people who flood in illegally are Hispanic, it makes all of them look bad. And that's no favor to anyone. Liberals are buying votes - they don't care about these people except to exploit them or to allow their fellow liberal elites to exploit them.

26 posted on 04/03/2014 2:35:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform. - Mark Steyn)
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