Posted on 04/02/2014 4:44:43 AM PDT by rellimpank
John Ambrose hoped to be among the first people in Illinois licensed to carry a concealed gun when the state’s new law took effect this year.
Instead, Ambrose, 38, of Joliet said he learned Monday that his application had been denied because he took a class in Bolingbrook that didn’t meet state requirements from an instructor who’s had his right to teach revoked. Ambrose said although some students had voiced concerns about the part of the class to be taught online, the teacher told them the training met state standards.
“I kind of feel like a fool,” he said.
Illinois State Police announced Tuesday that the agency denied concealed carry licenses to 327 applicants who received inadequate training from a firearms instructor in Bolingbrook. Though state police spokeswoman Monique Bond declined to give the instructor’s name, she said the class didn’t meet state criteria because it didn’t involve 16 hours of in-person training, instead including an online component.
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The instructor was a retired police officer. I felt like he gave us some pretty good tips on options in the event your firearm may be necessary. He also offered some advice on things you should/shouldn't say/do post shooting and what to say/do if you're approached by law enforcement (traffic stop, for example) when you are carrying.
Once we had the proper paperwork to submit, you still have additional state imposed fees and waiting periods. Just another regulatory money-grab that treads on the Founder's original intent.
16 hours of personal training?
Exactly. I am always dumbfounded how people have been giving away that right for over a century now in places like NYC, Chicago, Dodge City and Tombstone (in the 1800’s) and it spread from there to this misconception we have today.
This guy may have to conceal carry like many other Chicago folks on the south east side.
You carry a gun and you conceal it from the gubmint. You do not mess with all that paperwork nonsense. If you decide to shoot someone, you shoot and ditch. Then buy another on the street.
I wuz trained in my diapers with a German lugar
by a WW2 US NAVY PBY Cat vet, my uncle.
Nope. Grammatically, the militia clause is explanatory and does not modify the subject (the right of the people to keep and bear arms) or the predicate (shall not be infringed). If taken literally, which the entire Constitution should be, requiring firearms training is an infringement and unconstiutional.
I liked it.
Some states require training and certification before issuing a CCW.
Typical class length for Basic Pistol is 8–10 hours and includes classroom instruction and range time (4 or 5 hours classroom lecture on safety, handling, parts, functionality), and then 4 or 5 hours live fire, a test, and you’re good to go.
As I see it, mandating it is one more way of “them” making you do jump through a hoop.
PA doesn’t require it.
BUT - Training isn’t a bad thing. Many people who have had ZERO experience with firearms get a whole new perspective, and a lot of confidence from it.
As an instructor myself, I’ve seen many people who were previously nervous become very proficient and knowledgeable - and confident.
I guess you missed the “COULD be interpreted by some” part?
We don’t require no steenking training in GA :-)
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