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The Color of His Presidency
New York Magazine ^ | April 6, 2014 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 04/07/2014 10:48:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Optimists hoped Obama would usher in a new age of racial harmony. Pessimists feared a surge in racial strife. Neither was right. But what happened instead has been even more invidious.

A few weeks ago, the liberal comedian Bill Maher and conservative strategist and pundit Bill Kristol had a brief spat on Maher’s HBO show, putatively over what instigated the tea party but ultimately over the psychic wound that has divided red America and blue America in the Obama years. The rise of the tea party, explained Maher in a let’s-get-real moment, closing his eyes for a second the way one does when saying something everybody knows but nobody wants to say, “was about a black president.” Both Maher and Kristol carry themselves with a weary cynicism that allows them to jovially spar with ideological rivals, but all of a sudden they both grew earnest and angry. Kristol interjected, shouting, “That’s bullsh*t! That is total bullsh*t!” After momentarily sputtering, Kristol recovered his calm, but his rare indignation remained, and there was no trace of the smirk he usually wears to distance himself slightly from his talking points. He almost pleaded to Maher, “Even you don’t believe that!”

“I totally believe that,” Maher responded, which is no doubt true, because every Obama supporter believes deep down, or sometimes right on the surface, that the furious opposition marshaled against the first black president is a reaction to his race. Likewise, every Obama opponent believes with equal fervor that this is not only false but a smear concocted willfully to silence them....

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacks; jonathanchait; obama; racism; teaparty
Seven page article.
1 posted on 04/07/2014 10:48:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Race, always the deepest and most volatile fault line in American history, has now become the primal grievance in our politics …
Seven pages of this, really?
2 posted on 04/07/2014 10:52:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, enjoy it.


3 posted on 04/07/2014 10:56:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All


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4 posted on 04/07/2014 11:02:03 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And if we were talking about President Clarence Thomas, Mr. Maher?


5 posted on 04/07/2014 11:02:53 PM PDT by Argus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what was posted both guys are fools that have been cornered by Obama’s dark skin. Obama is not a ‘black’ man like he and other dupes would have people believe but instead is a man of colure, quite common to SE Asian people and even some other places of the world that have dark skinned people. People need to know about the relationship of his mother Stanley Ann with both Indonesians and Africans as well as grandma’s and grandpa’s communist ties that lead to Valerie Jarette. There is a real story to be told.


6 posted on 04/07/2014 11:04:31 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first page was sort of sane but then the article rapidly veered into total weirdness. The author, Jonathan Chait, believes that if you are for small government and for balancing the budget you are a racist. And he cites a bunch of articles by far-left academics and news reports by far-left outfits like NPR which try to prove.

Could this possibly be the prevalent view by most Democrats?? If so, man are we in deep doodoo.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 11:10:46 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A black president?

A lot of us out here in flyover country happened to look at Obama's character and we found it unworthy of the American presidency.

It had nothing to do with the color of his skin.

In fact, technically he is half white.

8 posted on 04/07/2014 11:12:12 PM PDT by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Criminals come in all shades.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 11:17:08 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Argus
Exactly.

Tea Party support for every black conservative so far has been deep, visceral and spontaneous; only by ignoring that can skunks like Maher continue to spread their slander.

10 posted on 04/07/2014 11:17:23 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: noinfringers2

” Obama is not a ‘black’ man like he and other dupes would have people believe but instead is a man of colure, quite common to SE Asian people.”
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You can not judge based on skin Color. SE Asians are not negroid. Obama’s father was an African negro, as well as a radical Marxist.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 11:17:48 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Convoluted analysis of something quite simple - i.e., 1. Obama has ushered in an extended age of tyrannical and extra-constitutional socialism that will take forever to undo, if it is, in fact, ever undone; and, 2. Obama has set race relations in the United States back a good fifty years.


12 posted on 04/07/2014 11:18:00 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama and his lying slimy gang despoiling the White House are totally corrupt ef’ing Chicago thieves. Indicate to me where that description demonstrates any racial bias.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 11:22:46 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: Jack Hammer

You sir are spot-on.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 11:24:34 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: AlexW

I will need validated proof that Obama’s sperm father was a negro let alone an African. I agree skin color does not establish racial certainty. I am a dark skinned person with European ancestry and as a boy and even in WWII was taken as a ‘black’ person especially under copious sunshine usually taken as a ‘tan’.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 11:28:15 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

“I will need validated proof that Obama’s sperm father was a negro let alone an African.”
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Are you implying that Barack Sr. was not a Kenyan Negro?
That would be an interesting twist.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 11:36:08 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only HE and the Leftists have ever made it about race. Its always been about his character, policies, performance, and ability to deal with crises which he doesn’t appear to deal with too well.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 11:50:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jack Hammer
Obama has set race relations in the United States back a good fifty years.

Much, much worse than that. Around the time you are talking about, the black middle class, built around healthy families, was first seeing their dreams translated into reality. In my high school for example, there was little racial distinction; you could date without that being a factor. A growing number of black professionals promised an even brighter future.

The Democratic Party's grip on the budget over the decades since has finally accomplished the despicable original plans of the Democratic Party for black people. Let's just say that was more than fifty years ago.

18 posted on 04/07/2014 11:54:26 PM PDT by InMemoriam (Have a seat over there, Mr. Mohammed. Aisha, go play on your swingset, honey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m tempted to tl;dr the whole mess, but now I’m curious to see if this has any mention of MLK’s “content of their character” quote.


19 posted on 04/07/2014 11:54:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: fifedom

And deep doo-doo it is. Democrats really DO believe that small government and balanced budgets wreak grievous harm upon blacks and minorities. In their eyes, this leaves no room for redress of those ills visited upon the persons of lesser attainment and indifferent capabilities. Therefore, we NEED the soft prejudice of lowered expectations and the inherent racism of affirmative action. And the classes of victims must be expanded to cover any group that finds itself in the least “ostracized”, or for whom the degree of “non-participation” in some field or endeavor is not proportional to their (real or imagined) percentage of the total population, therefore assuring “equality”.


20 posted on 04/07/2014 11:59:50 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I totally believe that,” Maher responded, which is no doubt true,...

As long as liberals are fence post stupid enough to keep believing that there is no point in discussing anything with them. They are choosing to act like recalcitrant five year olds and they should be accorded the same regard as a red-faced foot-stomping brat who needs a hard swat on the ass.

Essentially you ignore their irrational demands and do what you need to do.

21 posted on 04/08/2014 12:05:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Jack Hammer

I tried to read this, but by the third page I was getting ready to punch a hole in my screen. The voter ID thing, in particular, made me want to scream.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 12:10:19 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course liberals believe our opposition to Obama specifically and the government in general is due to racism - THEIR support of Obama specifically and the government in general is driven ONLY by their racial bias.

They simply cannot begin to conceive of people who have sincerely held political and moral beliefs that don’t change based on the color of a candidate.

These people would be in the streets screaming bloody murder if Bush had done or said HALF the things Barry has done. They truly only support him because he’s half-Kenyan.

Come on people, we’re talking about a persons who believe it’s inherently evil and racist to hold all people to the same objective standards of behavior.

We’re talking about people who believe the only way to get certain minorities to do as well as other minorities is to hamstring certain ethnic groups and give others free stuff.

We’re talking about people who praise dissent as patriotic when we have a white president, and call dissent treason when we have a black president. These are people who screamed about liberty and constitutional protections when Bush was in office, but ignore all of those pesky impediments to legislative action when Obama is in office.

Of course they think conservatives are racist, almost every liberal action and belief is motivated by their racial prejudices. They can’t conceive of a person that isn’t as bigoted and and small-minded as they are.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 12:10:48 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Olog-hai; 2ndDivisionVet

MLK mentioned exactly once (on page 5, and just a “token” mention if I dare say it; no relevant context). No sign of the “content of their character” quote.

Chait certainly demonstrates the infamous lack of content of his own character with six gratuitous uses of the N-word on page 3. (One cannot expect anything good from a TNR reject.)


24 posted on 04/08/2014 12:18:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If being black means needing to be ghetto and hating the white bourgeousie, then okay I hate black. But that’s a definition that liberals chose for those of melanistic skin. They can’t conflate color with folly then complain about those who hate the folly.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 12:22:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, Olog. It’s odious. It’s a lie in motion.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 12:24:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fifedom

“author, Jonathan Chait”

He’s a looney.


27 posted on 04/08/2014 12:44:49 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never apologize for the color of your skin.

Never apologize for sh^t you did not do.

That is all.


28 posted on 04/08/2014 12:46:55 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: shibumi
Ping


29 posted on 04/08/2014 1:18:25 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: AlexW

I never said or implied any such thing. You seem to miss the possibility the Kenyon was not the sperm doner. There are cases on record where men have been accused of being the blood father but were not such and had to go to court to show differently. In the case of Stanley Ann I believe there was consensual agreement for personal reasons to have a college mate play along with the pregnancy until an Hawaiian divorce could be obtained and which did happen according to published court records.


30 posted on 04/08/2014 1:43:38 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

“I never said or implied any such thing. You seem to miss the possibility the Kenyon was not the sperm doner.”
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Well, yes, anything and everything is possible. It is hard to imagine an American white female intentionally having a black male sperm donor. I guess the plot thickens. What is your theory? Was it just a random black male donor?


31 posted on 04/08/2014 2:03:46 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

“Radical Marxist” have no skin color, they are just plain Marxists. Odumbo on the other hand.....perhaps its best if I leave that to your devices, personally I despise the bastard no matter what his skin color is.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 2:30:56 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Olog-hai

Seven pages??!! It’s difficult to get through seven paragraphs from Chait.


33 posted on 04/08/2014 3:43:02 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Progov

“I despise the bastard no matter “
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So do I. It is that he got into power on the pathetic charge that he would be America’s first black president is what galls me. The fact that the Marxist Btard was REelected is what tells me that America is in big trouble.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 3:43:32 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Slyfox

The conceit of libs is that conservative Republicans would be jumping for joy if a white Obama had passed a socialist health care act, tried to nationalize auto industries, or shut down oil production. They seriously believe this.


35 posted on 04/08/2014 3:46:59 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: AlexW

How do you know who is father is? Obama doesn’t even know


36 posted on 04/08/2014 3:59:58 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

“How do you know who is father is?”
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How would any of us know? It is the most protected fact in history.
The only one thing that is certain is that the father, by all indications, is a Kenyan, and the mother was a tramp.
The father was obviously African, but possibly living in Malaysia at one time.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 4:22:16 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Olog-hai; Salamander

On a normal night I take a glance at almost every article on FR. I don’t read them all, but I look long emough to get the gist of what they’re about and mentally footnote in case the topic should acquire relevance later. I looked at the title of this piece and thought “I’ve had enough of race- baiting for today.”

Then a good friend pinged me here with the graphic comment that reads “Simply Red” referencing the obvious fact that the only color of this pResident that matters is his Communist color. So since I was here, I started to read.

Seven pages, eh?

All I can say is that any piece of writing that starts out by calling Bill Kristol a “conservative” and inferring that Maher is any sort of “intellectual” is not worth a single sentence fragment.

Thanks for hte warning 2DV.


38 posted on 04/08/2014 4:23:11 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whereas the great themes of the Bush years revolved around foreign policy and a cultural divide over what or who constituted “real” America, the Obama years have been defined by a bitter disagreement over the size of government, which quickly reduces to an argument over whether the recipients of big-government largesse deserve it.

This is a new twist: "From everyone according to their ability; to everyone according to whether they 'deserve' it."

Sheesh!

39 posted on 04/08/2014 4:35:58 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: shibumi

There’s also Mr. Chait’s background to consider. Former loudmouth “senior editor” at TNR. Author of the hit piece “Case for Bush Hatred”.


40 posted on 04/08/2014 8:29:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: driftless2

Much less seven sentences.


41 posted on 04/08/2014 8:30:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Salamander

Never mind that record’s gratuitous attacks on Reagan.


42 posted on 04/08/2014 8:35:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Chait is one of those libs who you think would have enough intelligence to understand the dangers of too much government or government stepping outside its constitutional boundaries. But it's almost impossible to reason with libs like Chait...they have a deep-seated, almost inexplicable hatred of conservatives that is immune to reason.

Back in the thirties in Russia, Chait would have been one of those loyal communists cheering on Stalin's show trials and his slaughter of other loyal commies...right up to the time Stalin put Chait against the wall.

43 posted on 04/08/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: ballplayer; shibumi

I think the birth certificate just has an “X” where the daddy’s name should be.


44 posted on 04/08/2014 11:00:04 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s not as though I ever listened to that band so I missed that.

:)


45 posted on 04/08/2014 11:01:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: AlexW

First, I have seen many racially mixed married people with children in the newspapers and on TV, so your life’s experience on this issue appears to be quite limited. as to your point of a black male donor. I have tried to point out that a ‘black male donor’ might not be the case. As to my belief for a chronicle , call it a theory if you so want, I tend to think that such involves mother Stanley Ann, an Indonesian Guru and Muslim cult leader named Muhammed Subuh along with Hawaii’s records keeper Loretta Fuddy who died in a somewhat odd airplane accident and others along with associated world geographic locations such as Indonesia, Hawaii, Kenya, Seattle, and into Chicago with Valerie Jarette who now is Obama’s adult guru. History when fully and accurately disclosed will be very interesting as to President Obama


46 posted on 04/08/2014 3:02:51 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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