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Flight 370 effort could soon shift from search to recovery
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Posted on 04/09/2014 1:51:59 PM PDT by servo1969

The team of international investigators hunting for Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has "unquestionably" located the missing jetliner and could soon have high resolution images of the wreck site, an expert in deep sea recoveries of ships and planes told FoxNews.com.

There is virtually no chance that the pings picked up by ships towing sophisticated listening devices could be anything other than signals emitted by the plane's flight data recorder, or "black box," David Mearns, of Blue Water Recoveries, a United Kingdom-based company that holds the Guinness World Record for the deepest ocean recovery and has assisted searches for sunken planes.

"This cannot be coming from anything else," Mearns said. "This is the best equipment there is, and the signal is unmistakable.”

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 370; crash; malaysia; mh370; ping
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To: CivilWarBrewing

No, it was in different area and it was sea sound.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 2:36:40 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: logi_cal869
The pingers are omni-directional beacons. They radiate circular waves subject to many influences such as thermoclines and debris field masking or distortion of the signal. Any sonar, RF or acoustical guru would be able to describe a myriad of effects the environment can inpose on a signal.

The search team needs to triangulate the signal with a certain degree of confidence that they indeed have directional bearings. They can only do this by measuring amplitude of the signal i.e if the signal strength is growing stronger, they are moving closer.

That in itself is not exact because they could be on a tangent source to the signal. I'm sure the triangulation is exactly what they are doing as I write this.

22 posted on 04/09/2014 2:42:16 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: PghBaldy

It’s getting close to the 30 day expiration date on the batteries.

Didn’t I read somewhere that the batteries on the black boxes were never sent back to Boeing to be serviced?


23 posted on 04/09/2014 2:49:42 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: k4gypsyrose

The black boxes should be set to ping at an exponentially lower rate until the batteries are exhausted, much later.


24 posted on 04/09/2014 2:53:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

I was trying to figure out what this meant, thinking I was stupid. Thanks.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 3:10:03 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: pfflier

I was referring to the Fox headline as BS, based on one man not in the search at all.

I referred to the ROV ‘pattern’ just as you describe with ‘triangulate’.

All conspiracy-theories aside, a confirmed source on the ocean floor would be good enough for me to put this to bed, as unless all the seats are empty of an intact fuselage or there’s an orgy of evidence contained within, there’s nothing else to learn unless there was new data intentionally read into the CDR after all the pertinent data had been overwritten of the timeframe when it went missing. FDR will just confirm its final moments.


26 posted on 04/09/2014 3:10:10 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

They are going to get the boxes but the rest might just stay. Unless the get the ship the navy built to retrieve the russian sub from the 60’s or 70’s? They got a piece of it but it broke trying to bring it up.

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Howard%20Hughes/hughes_glomar_explorer_ship_boat.jpg

Story here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2450478/posts


27 posted on 04/09/2014 3:10:32 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: servo1969
Yawn...wake me up when you have a recovered flight data recorder or aircraft debris. Until then, all this is just bloviating Bravo Sierra.
28 posted on 04/09/2014 3:12:09 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Chickensoup

That’s from “Lost”, the TV show.


29 posted on 04/09/2014 3:12:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: servo1969

The 4 new pings are mapped here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142497/posts?page=48#48

and they are within only a few miles of each other.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 3:14:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: logi_cal869
I doubt with any kind of water impact, the fuselage would be largely intact. The biggest hint of the type of impact will be the size of the debris field and the size of the individual pieces.

I agree with you about the talking heads. They are filling time between commercials knowing nothing more than we do.

31 posted on 04/09/2014 3:19:32 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

The problem is the missing debris. I’ve posted prior that given the fact they’ve been searching in the wrong area for weeks due to reliance on the geeks from Inmarsat, there should (ironically) be debris washing up on beaches in Malaysia in the next week or so.

If it broke up, there is floating debris (AF447 produced a debris field several miles long after just a few days); they’ve just been looking in all the wrong places...if it went in controlled, it was daylight and a calm ocean could very well see an intact fuselage (which, if one theory is proved, would be exactly what one would want if he/they wanted to ‘prolong the pain’, i.e., the ‘mystery’...).


32 posted on 04/09/2014 3:33:41 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869
Two events come to mind: Ethiopian Airlines 767 landing after fuel exhaustion much the same scenario as we are discussing now.

This plane landed in a relatively smooth open ocean.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0SO80801UVTXU8AbedXNyoA?p=hijacked+airliner+water+landing&fr=yfp-t-901&fr2=piv-web

US Airways, Capt Sullenberger's landing, was a masterpiece but on a protected inland waterway.

I agree that debris will wash ashore traceable to the missing flight. That may include bodies and body parts.

33 posted on 04/09/2014 4:28:35 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

I’ve been so hard on the presentation of the ‘data’ as it’s all been a conscious effort to obfuscate (that deja vu thing again). I’ve said since I last swore off this drama that it was one of 2 things, one being the most simple.

The irony is that the Imarsat people have been willing participants in the obfuscation of the present danger to the flying public overseas. I suspect that transmission is also easily killed. If, as I expect, the ‘simple’ scenario plays out, had it not been for those handshakes with the satellite the plane would never be found (I fully expect it to be found intact...I believe THAT’s what was deleted off his simulator: Water landing practice, and likely navigational practice as well).

The other irony is that now every terrorist on the planet knows that the cockpits are not nearly as secure on some international carriers as those on US carriers, as well as the fact that now it’s public knowledge on how to disappear a jumbo jet (one complicit technician away...snip the right wire and no satellite ping).

The simple explanation and the obfuscation, of course, I assert are one in the same. If you go back and take a look at the past 3 weeks of news, it’s patently obvious and, furthermore, I expect that even ‘if’ the CVR is located, nothing will come of it (no matter what’s on it) as the LAST thing ANYONE involved in this wants (save for the Chinese maybe) is to make widely public that, again, this was (IMHO) a fanatical Muslim pilot that murdered 238 people. That was my supposition since day 1.

Regardless of which direction he flew, a Muslim hijacked the jumbo jet with at least 237 hostages on a suicide mission ala Egypt Air and that’s been intentionally quashed.

It should be the FIRST thing that’s brought up again before a single piece of the plane...


34 posted on 04/09/2014 5:35:58 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I agree. Given all that has transpired I think they need to find out what brought the plane down so they can see what countermeasures or improvements could prevent this from happening again ... If that is even possible. Malaysians should be paying for this not us.


35 posted on 04/09/2014 6:34:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

we didn’t forget......damn that show....


36 posted on 04/09/2014 7:58:48 PM PDT by cherry
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37 posted on 04/12/2014 1:56:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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