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Russian Fiction the Sequel: 10 More False Claims About Ukraine
The State Department ^ | Sunday, April 13, 2014

Posted on 04/13/2014 2:37:32 PM PDT by kristinn

Fact Sheet
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC

April 13, 2014

“No amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong.”
– President Obama, March 26

Russia continues to spin a false and dangerous narrative to justify its illegal actions in Ukraine. The Russian propaganda machine continues to promote hate speech and incite violence by creating a false threat in Ukraine that does not exist. We would not be seeing the violence and sad events that we've witnessed this weekend without this relentless stream of disinformation and Russian provocateurs fostering unrest in eastern Ukraine. Here are 10 more false claims Russia is using to justify intervention in Ukraine, with the facts that these assertions ignore or distort.

1. Russia Claims: Russian agents are not active in Ukraine.

Fact: The Ukrainian Government has arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents in recent weeks, many of whom were armed at the time of arrest. In the first week of April 2014, the Government of Ukraine had information that Russian GRU officers were providing individuals in Kharkiv and Donetsk with advice and instructions on conducting protests, capturing and holding government buildings, seizing weapons from the government buildings’ armories, and redeploying for other violent actions. On April 12, armed pro-Russian militants seized government buildings in a coordinated and professional operation conducted in six cities in eastern Ukraine. Many were outfitted in bullet-proof vests, camouflage uniforms with insignia removed, and carrying Russian-designed weapons like AK-74s and Dragunovs. These armed units, some wearing black and orange St. George’s ribbons associated with Russian Victory Day celebrations, raised Russian and separatist flags over seized buildings and have called for referendums on secession and union with Russia. These operations are strikingly similar to those used against Ukrainian facilities during Russia’s illegal military intervention in Crimea in late February and its subsequent occupation.

2. Russia Claims: Pro-Russia demonstrations are comprised exclusively of Ukrainian citizens acting of their own volition, like the Maidan movement in Kyiv.

Fact: This is not the grassroots Ukrainian civic activism of the EuroMaidan movement, which grew from a handful of student protestors to hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians from all parts of the country and all walks of life. Russian internet sites openly are recruiting volunteers to travel from Russia to Ukraine and incite violence. There is evidence that many of these so-called “protesters” are paid for their participation in the violence and unrest. It is clear that these incidents are not spontaneous events, but rather part of a well-orchestrated Russian campaign of incitement, separatism, and sabotage of the Ukrainian state. Ukrainian authorities continue to arrest highly trained and well-equipped Russian provocateurs operating across the region.

3. Russia Claims: Separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine enjoy broad popular support.

Fact: The recent demonstrations in eastern Ukraine are not organic and lack wide support in the region. A large majority of Donetsk residents (65.7 percent) want to live in a united Ukraine and reject unification with Russia, according to public opinion polls conducted at the end of March by the Donetsk-based Institute of Social Research and Policy Analysis. Pro-Russian demonstrations in eastern Ukraine have been modest in size, especially compared with Maidan protests in these same cities in December, and they have gotten smaller as time has progressed.

4. Russia Claims: The situation in eastern Ukraine risks spiraling into civil war.

Fact: What is going on in eastern Ukraine would not be happening without Russian disinformation and provocateurs fostering unrest. It would not be happening if a large Russian military force were not massed on the border, destabilizing the situation through their overtly threatening presence. There simply have not been large-scale protests in the region. A small number of separatists have seized several government buildings in eastern cities like Donetsk, Luhansk, and Slovyansk, but they have failed to attract any significant popular support. Ukrainian authorities have shown remarkable restraint in their efforts to resolve the situation and only acted when provoked by armed militants and public safety was put at risk. Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) observers have reported that these incidents are very localized.

5. Russia Claims: Ukrainians in Donetsk rejected the illegitimate authorities in Kyiv and established the independent “People’s Republic of Donetsk.”

Fact: A broad and representative collection of civil society and non-governmental organizations in Donetsk categorically rejected the declaration of a “People’s Republic of Donetsk” by the small number of separatists occupying the regional administration building. These same organizations confirmed their support for the interim government and for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.

6. Russia Claims: Russia ordered a “partial drawdown” of troops from the Ukrainian border.

Fact: No evidence shows significant movement of Russian forces away from the Ukrainian border. One battalion is not enough. An estimated 35,000-40,000 Russian troops remain massed along the border, in addition to approximately 25,000 troops currently in Crimea.

7. Russia Claims: Ethnic Russians in Ukraine are under threat.

Fact: There are no credible reports of ethnic Russians facing threats in Ukraine. An International Republic Institute poll released April 5 found that 74 percent of the Russian-speaking population in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine said they “were not under pressure or threat because of their language.” Meanwhile, in Crimea, the OSCE has raised urgent concerns for the safety of minority populations, especially ethnic Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and others. Sadly, the ethnic Russians most at risk are those who live in Russia and who oppose the authoritarian Putin regime. These Russians are harassed constantly and face years of imprisonment for speaking out against Putin’s regular abuses of power.

8. Russia Claims: Ukraine’s new government is led by radical nationalists and fascists.

Fact: The Ukrainian parliament (Rada) did not change in February. It is the same Rada that was elected by all Ukrainians, comprising all of the parties that existed prior to February’s events, including former president Yanukovych’s Party of Regions. The new government, approved by an overwhelming majority in the parliament -- including many members of Yanukovych’s former party -- is committed to protecting the rights of all Ukrainians, including those in Crimea.

9. Russia Claims: Ethnic minorities face persecution in Ukraine from the “fascist” government in Kyiv.

Fact: Leaders of Ukraine’s Jewish as well as German, Czech, and Hungarian communities have all publicly expressed their sense of safety under the new authorities in Kyiv. Moreover, many minority groups expressed fear of persecution in Russian-occupied Crimea, a concern OSCE observers in Ukraine have substantiated.

10. Russia Claims: Russia is not using energy and trade as weapons against Ukraine.

Fact: Following Russia’s illegal annexation and occupation of Crimea, Russia raised the price Ukraine pays for natural gas by 80 percent in the past two weeks. In addition, it is seeking more than $11 billion in back payments following its abrogation of the 2010 Kharkiv accords. Russia’s moves threaten to increase severely the economic pain faced by Ukrainian citizens and businesses. Additionally, Russia continues to restrict Ukrainian exports to Russia, which constitute a significant portion of Ukraine’s export economy.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinisanatheist; putinsbuttboys; russia; statedepartment; ukraine

1 posted on 04/13/2014 2:37:32 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

If Obama is against something then I’m for it..and vice versa.


2 posted on 04/13/2014 2:43:45 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks kristinn.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 2:44:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bobalu

I believe nothing unless it comes from ITAR-TASS or Russia Today. ;)


4 posted on 04/13/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kristinn

These https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=df92b3Aozog are not locals. This means that Russia has invaded Ukraine.


5 posted on 04/13/2014 2:50:09 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: kristinn

If this is from our government, it is probably a lie.


6 posted on 04/13/2014 2:50:35 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Bobalu

Obama is for breathing, so go ahead.


7 posted on 04/13/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: kristinn
1. __________ agents are not active in __________________. <p>

2. Pro-__________ demonstrations are comprised exclusively of __________________ citizens acting of their own volition.


3. Separatist leaders in ____________ enjoy broad popular support.

4. The situation in __________________ risks spiraling into civil war.

5. _____________ in ____________ rejected the illegitimate authorities in ________ and established the independent _______________________.

6. ____________ ordered a “partial drawdown” of troops from the ______________ border.

7. Ethnic ___________ in __________________ are under threat

8. __________________ new government is led by radical nationalists and fascists.

9. Ethnic minorities face persecution in __________________ from the “fascist” government in _________.

10. ______________ is not using _____________ and trade as a weapon against __________________.


Hmmm, I've seen the underlying form somewhere before.

8 posted on 04/13/2014 2:59:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: kristinn

What is the “Institute of Social Research and Policy Analysis?”

I couldn’t find anything on them. Love how they slip this stuff into official propaganda like it doesn’t matter that we don’t have any idea who these sources are.

If you bother to check gov’t sources, you’ll find they are always quoting these supposedly “independent experts” who turn up to work for government funded “non governmental” organizations, are Soros-type operations or financially interested special interest money.

Usually you can at least find information about the groups quoted though and get a name of real person attached to a poll or study.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 3:01:44 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: kristinn

What is the “Institute of Social Research and Policy Analysis?”

I couldn’t find anything on them. Love how they slip this stuff into official propaganda like it doesn’t matter that we don’t have any idea who these sources are.

If you bother to check gov’t sources, you’ll find they are always quoting these supposedly “independent experts” who turn up to work for government funded “non governmental” organizations, are Soros-type operations or financially interested special interest money.

Usually you can at least find information about the groups quoted though and get a name of real person attached to a poll or study.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 3:01:47 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Bobalu

US retreat is the Russians’ fault now....

The Russians are just doing what Russians do - move into a vacuum. The US and EU have been timid and exhibited signs of weakness in the face of the Russian bear. If weapons instead of “Meals Ready to Eat” had been sent to the Ukrainian people, they would have been both fortified, and assured of further assistance down the road.

Now it just looks like the Russian “liberators” will have more to eat right away.


11 posted on 04/13/2014 3:18:37 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: kristinn

Here’s another claim about the Ukraine which isn’t false: Ukrainian is a dead language; ten years from now, it will be spoken only by historians. Everybody in the Ukraine who isn’t retarded speaks Russian now and even the retards will catch up in another five or six years.


12 posted on 04/13/2014 3:18:50 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: kristinn

BTW, you actually BELIEVE anything coming from the Obunga/Soros state department?????


13 posted on 04/13/2014 3:19:49 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: kristinn

I’d bet the Russian State Dept. would have a differing view. You have to make up your own mind who’s telling the truth.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 3:21:16 PM PDT by McGruff (I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb Bush pulled a Charlie Crist)
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To: mulligan

It is unusally accurate for a change, unlike the ACA or Benghazi. Presumably it was just easier to stick to the truth for a change.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 3:25:40 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: kristinn
From the U.S. State Department:

“No amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong.” – President Obama, March 26

Here are some quotes from Team BO regarding the death panel law:

"This is a huge success, this law."- Barbara Boxer, regarding Obamacare

"... this law is helping millions of Americans, and in the coming years it will help millions more." - B. Hussein Obama regarding Obamacare

"...I believe it’s a winner."--Nancy Pelosi, regarding Obamacare

"...there's plenty of horror stories being told. All of them are untrue..." -Harry Reid, regarding Obamacare

“There was nothing about what President Obama - or that I or any other Democrat supporting the Affordable Care Act - said that was not true.” - Debbie Wasserman Schultz, regarding Obamacare

“No amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong.”

16 posted on 04/13/2014 3:28:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: varmintman

Maybe they pressed the reset button till it correctly translated itself


17 posted on 04/13/2014 3:32:58 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: alloysteel

“US retreat is the Russians’ fault now.... The Russians are just doing what Russians do - move into a vacuum”

I have the feeling that this is all going to end badly for us.

The Russians have out-thought, and out-moved us in every stage since Libya. Obama opened the door for this, and now the Alinsky tactics are back-firing.


18 posted on 04/13/2014 3:34:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: kristinn
Ah! A communique from headquarters of Communist Party of America

And I'm form former communist country - this is kind of crap they were feeding our minds for 70+ years.

This is called “Denunciation letter” in which Communist party is explaining us why party is right and world is not.

19 posted on 04/13/2014 3:35:57 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
This is called “Denunciation letter” in which Communist party is explaining us why party is right and world is not.

In this case the "World" you are siding with is Russia, Armenia, Belarus, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia. You are in a fine company. Your old commie masters would applaud.

20 posted on 04/13/2014 3:41:54 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

“World” = places where sodomy is not religion.


21 posted on 04/13/2014 3:44:53 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kristinn

How this was all going to play out was clear from the time the first protestor threw the first Molotov at a cop in Kiev.

Civil war...
We picked a side, the Russians have picked a side, and they seem to have a LOT more resovle about it than we do.


22 posted on 04/13/2014 3:45:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: mulligan

In this case much of what is listed has been confirmed by Ukrainians and Westerners who are have met the requirements for permanent residency in Ukraine and are living there now.


23 posted on 04/13/2014 3:55:47 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: kronos77

There is no doubt that the Russian disinformation program continues full time. You fail to either understand that or play the part of a useful idiot by spreading/believing the nonsense. Which is it?


24 posted on 04/13/2014 3:59:34 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: tcrlaf

The majority of Ukrainians would disagree with you.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 4:00:32 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: kronos77

Maybe I am wrong, but I have gotten a feeling that your fanatical pro-Russian stance in everything has nothing to do with sodomy and everything to do with Serbia and talking about sodomy and Christianity is your way of trying to push the buttons of good people in Freerepublic while always tying in your support for Russia.

Russia is not destroying Ukraine because of a fight against sodomy. It is acting out its imperialism.

You are almost exclusively posting articles from Russia’s state owned propaganda services. Why do you find them so trustworthy and worth sharing?


26 posted on 04/13/2014 4:01:11 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: meatloaf

“The majority of Ukrainians would disagree with you.”

Which Ukrainians??
The ones that refused to attack the barricades on orders from Kiev?
or the ones coming from Western Ukraine to split heads?


27 posted on 04/13/2014 4:07:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

The ones with actual Ukrainian citizenship.


28 posted on 04/13/2014 4:09:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: meatloaf
I have seen this Ukraine situation, back in 1991 in former Yugoslavia. Exactly the same. It goes like this:

“Serbs attacked all their neighbors killing, burning and raping 10,000,000,000 innocent people”

And I'm sorry, but sodomite communist regime that is enslaving its own people while imposing anti-Christian “values” around the world is not the one Ill take news from.

That regime cannot be saying truth.
Never
Ever. And I hope US will be free again.

29 posted on 04/13/2014 4:17:11 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: tcrlaf

The ones that have been involved with the pro-Ukraine demonstrations and possibly the ones responding to polls. Since polls can be manipulated I’ll view those with caution. However, unlike the 100% or almost 100% Russian votes, the Ukrainian polls in the East seem to mirror reality in showing a realistic majority but not a huge one.


30 posted on 04/13/2014 5:16:06 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: tcrlaf

“Which Ukrainians??
The ones that refused to attack the barricades on orders from Kiev?
or the ones coming from Western Ukraine to split heads?”

No, the Ukrainians who live in Donetsk and so forth overwhelmingly oppose the Russian aggressions.

Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine (Dispatch Twenty Three)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdCvuf-ZOk


31 posted on 04/13/2014 5:16:20 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: kronos77
“Serbs attacked all their neighbors killing, burning and raping 10,000,000,000 innocent people”

Now we're getting somewhere. How many did the Serbs kill? 1,000? 10,000? I'm just curious to hear your opinion.

32 posted on 04/13/2014 6:35:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

How about 10,000 Russians demonstrating in Moscow asking Putin to stop lying.

http://news.yahoo.com/anti-kremlin-protest-draws-thousands-moscow-160257721.html


33 posted on 04/13/2014 7:37:17 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: kristinn

This from the administration whose spokesclown told reporters that “we don’t have and did not have concrete evidence to suggest that this [the Benghazi attack] was not in reaction to the film.”


34 posted on 04/13/2014 7:46:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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