YOU AIN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME!
Posted on 04/15/2014 11:42:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
For once he’s right. John Hinderaker, who’s sympathetic to Bundy, nonetheless acknowledges that he doesn’t have a leg to stand on legally. Bundy’s theory, that land universally recognized for the past 150 years as belonging to the federal government really belongs to Nevada because it was never properly conveyed to the U.S., is DOA in court. He’ll lose his appeals and then, presumably, he’ll go on refusing to pay grazing fees to use the land. What should the feds do then? Given the publicity the case has drawn and the fact that the judiciary’s on his side, Obama can’t look the other way at Bundy’s continued defiance of the law. He’s happy to do that abroad with bad actors like Putin and Assad because Ukraine and Syria aren’t part of his jurisdiction. (Although fans of the world-policeman theory of foreign policy might disagree.) He can duck those messes, sort of. He can’t duck the one in Nevada, if only because letting Bundy off the hook there is bound to inspire copycat defiance elsewhere. So Reid’s right. This isn’t over.
My question is, how should the feds proceed once Bundy’s appeals are exhausted? What could they do to enforce the court’s order that won’t be treated as some sort of provocation by Bundy supporters? Seize his cattle that are on federal land? Let the cattle graze there but seize some of his assets to make him pay the grazing fee? (If they went the latter route, ranchers would then have a liability right to use federal land for their own purposes, which would interfere with the government’s plans for land use.) Watch the second clip below and you’ll find Glenn Beck taken aback by the violent rhetoric among some Bundy supporters, a portion of whom he thinks are clearly spoiling for a fight. Then watch the first clip, where one supporter is interviewed, and you’ll see why. (Another supporter, a former sheriff, spitballed on Fox News yesterday about placing women at the front of the protest crowd to maximize the PR damage to the feds in case shooting breaks out.) Remember, Bundy doesn’t recognize federal jurisdiction over the land at all; any interference with his cattle by the BLM, no matter how light a touch is used, will presumably be regarded by him and his fans as illegal and therefore worthy of resistance.
Maybe, since Bundy recognizes Nevada’s authority over the land, the feds could ask Nevada authorities to remove the cattle? Not sure the local cops would be up for that, though, partly because of the politics involved in siding with the feds against a native rancher and partly because it sets a precedent of doing the feds’ dirty work for them anytime someone raises an objection to federal authority. Besides, would that really appease Bundy? If the county commissioner shows up and tells him that it really is federal land, according to the government of Nevada, would that do it or would Bundy go on believing his own theory?
I agree with you. In days past with feds in good faith, that would have already been done long ago and no one would be aware of the accord except the principals.
Feds are no longer in good faith very often, or very deeply.
I knew it. The feds don’t back down.
It won’t be over until the head of the snake is chopped off.
Plus ask yourself what is a US Senator doing involving himself in the land usage of a county?
Harry Reid was elected to go to the Senate of the United States and represent the state of Nevada in matters of the nation. Foreign policy, budget matters, immigration etc. He is not supposed to be involving himself in state matters like land usage. That is why you have state legislators and county commisssioners, mayors etc.
Our two senators don’t try to involve themselves in state level issues. They don’t make deals with the Chi Coms to build projects in GA. Its inappropriate.
YOU AIN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME!
That is, realistically, the only question people should be asking at this time.
“ask yourself what is a US Senator doing involving himself in the land usage of a county?”
Great point. I will use it!
Remember that the Founders were considered to be criminals under the laws at the time. Those laws and their enforcement were so intolerable and detrimental to individual liberty that the Founders rose up and fought a revolution.
Those laws were written by a tyrannical regime which now looks rather tame and benevolent when compared to the injustices and abuses of the Obama administration.
After the war, the Founders then worked to secure liberty for their posterity within the framework of a totally new kind of government, one with clear limitations on the size and scope of government.
The Founders would no longer recognize the republic they gave us. It makes me ashamed.
How much more? If not now, when?
Harry, it ain’t over? With you and the Marxists in Congress, honest hard working citizens are being harassed while your Marxist gay boyfriend can’t be bothered by thugs like Kim Jung In and Putin.
Idiots indeed. We all know adoption is a privilege. Natural birth a right. Sandra Fluke asking for free gambling money to feed her sex body gambling addiction is disgusting, notwithstanding using children as bargaining and poker chips. meanwhile Reid has the same gangster prostitute gay relationship gamblings with the Chinese.
This not a tax, this is a gangster racket.
There are higher laws but people choose to ignore them, with BLM cops perjuring themselves in false testimonies with a badge and judges making false interpretations. just great.
Indeed. it did not matter to idiot King George that the Founders tried to negociate an understanding. The King was not leading a sustainable British colonization and conquest, it was all corrupted by his inner aristocratic circles. the Founders were well aware they would too go extinct like England if the followed it. To wit America came back to rescue England several times after being blamed for destroying the empire.
Sounds very Obamaesque.
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