Whooooooah, BUNDY!
Posted on 04/16/2014 3:32:17 AM PDT by dontreadthis
In this we're going to present you with evidence of blatant corruption and criminal activities that anyone, including law enforcement, can easily verify.
But before we go into the details, it's important to acknowledge here, that the political left and the political right are watching this crisis through very different eyes. You on the left saw this old rancher defying the Federal government over cattle grazing fees, with right wing pundits pleading his case, and armed militia moving in to intervene... it probably gave you the impression of Tea Party temper tantrum... with guns. Given some of the personalities who were involved in the media circus surrounding this, that impression is perfectly understandable, but underneath the appearances there is something here that all Americans need to see, whether they consider themselves conservative, liberal or none of the above.
All I ask is that you suspend your preconceived notions of what this crisis was about, for five minutes.
(Excerpt) Read more at scgnews.com ...
No one in this country will “suspend preconceived notions” at this point. We have come to the place where Solomon splits the baby.
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the reason for the 2nd. Not hunting or target shooting.
bttt
“I fear that all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant.” Admiral Yamamoto after Pearl Harbor
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana
Totally agree.
bttt
One can say all they want to about rumor, unsubstantiated claim, ulterior motives, etc. But when there is documented compelling evidence like the cached pages from the BLM website (removed now), the Chinese connection becomes real.
Further, the investigator’s efforts to document the transformation of the pages, even with looks at Google cache, etc., and seeing even THOSE disappear indicates something most foul is afoot here, Dr. Watson.
Cattlegate - That’s what this is. If we called the episode with Chris Christie Bridgegate with no evidence other than suspicion, then this event - with evidence - is certainly worthy of an investigation. But who has the political will to take on the most powerful politician in the country? Who? Who?
Cattlegate
make it stick
The militia are not autonomous, despite such a belief by many at FR.
In the USA, there is only 1 militia per U.S. state, and 1 militia per U.S. territory, and 1 militia for DC.
In general, all non-conscientious-objector, able-bodied men are regarded as a pool from which the militia may be mustered and/or recruited and/or some may volunteer.
We do have the right to keep and bear Arms, but to use martial power lawfully, requires the authority of either the duly-elected state/territory governor, lt. gov., secy of state, attorney gen’l ... or the duly-elected legislature.
Usually the legislature selects or assigns a committee to oversee the matters at hand and respond to the emergency that has caused the people to urge the members of the legislature to order the muster.
The duly-elected state/territory legislative body has the overall authority, and it can order the muster despite all the other elected officials and/or judges.
In general, the proceedings are modeled along the same lines as used by our Continental Congress and the various Committees of Safety within the colonies.
(Massachusetts was the first to choose a Committee of Safety that had authority over its militia.)
The authority to exercise martial power and law enforcement by force, stems from a duly elected body, and we are expected by our Founding Fathers, to adhere to such due process, as they did.
The militia can train, but cannot exercise martial power without the approval of duly-elected civilian authority. That distinguishes the militia from “an armed gang or mob.”
Almost all, if not all, militia in the U.S. are out of the practice of responding to state and local emergencies -— because the traditional musters have waned for a long time, now. The lack of practice, is what leads to errors and missteps, particularly in regard to The Authority for The Militia to Act.
If you volunteer for some emergency, or what you think is an emergency, you have volunteered for service to the needs of the citizens.
If you exercise martial power, you better be prepared to announce the state/local civilian authority that authorizes your actions.
If you volunteer to enforce the local and/or state laws, you better be prepared to accept your role as a sheriff deputy and as much as you are able, pains-taking-ly note how you are following due process. Basically, *you have to* keep a log of your activities, somehow; take notes; record events; do what you can to demonstrate to the local and/or state duly-elected civilian authority (and to judges), that you made a good faith effort to follow the law(s).
If you think that your cause is just, and you are responding to abuse by government, it is in the best interest of the community in which such abuse takes place, that its duly elected civilian authority *under the command of which, you are operating,* is both:
a) opposed to said abuse by government
b) has authorized certain steps to be taken and authorized you to perform those steps
*Then* you are in compliance with the public’s trust.
“If you think that your cause is just, and you are responding to abuse by government, it is in the best interest of the community in which such abuse takes place, that its duly elected civilian authority *under the command of which, you are operating,* is both:
a) opposed to said abuse by government
b) has authorized certain steps to be taken and authorized you to perform those steps
*Then* you are in compliance with the public’s trust.”
Were the actions taken at the Bundy Ranch in compliance with the public’s trust based upon a) and b) that you stated?
The Fed judge that signed this order needs to be brought to heel. When he signed this he knew it wasn’t right and it could blow up into a political hot potato. He wrote it as a permissive order for the BLM to carryout with the Sheriffs help. Given contracts, Federal land, and asset forfeiture it would have been the U.S. Marshall’s Service to service and enforce. But, the judge did not want the court to be involved and therefore gave it to BLM so it would no be seen as a court action. This is telling and this judge should be questioned. Federal judges are political beast. Was he compromised by Dingy Harry? What other similar orders did he sign in the past? Did Harry push his confirmation to the Federal bench through?
No name or source for this article???
Whooooooah, BUNDY!
this is what is posted at SGH:
http://scgnews.com/who-is-scg
“but to use martial power lawfully, requires the authority of either the duly-elected state/territory governor,”
You don’t understand this country or the militia in the slightest. The PEOPLE decide what and who will govern them, not government officials, and your illogical conclusion places the power of the people in the hands of the government.
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