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1 posted on 04/17/2014 4:34:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What a disappointment to see VDH come out for amnesty for illegals!


2 posted on 04/17/2014 4:45:11 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Kaslin

Agree...sad to read this. He’s a great guy, otherwise.

This ruse REALLY gets me mad:

“Require that those residing here unlawfully pay a fine for breaking the law and wait in line until immigrants who followed the law are first processed.”

They’re trying to throw a bone to conservatives, yet ANYONE WITH A BRAIN will know the fines will get waived for just about everyone, except maybe some Swede with $1M in the bank. They are TOYING with us, when they come out like this.

As to “waiting in line”, that’s NEVER going to happen either. Instead, there won’t be a line - they will just hire enough people to process the forms and have them legalized practically overnight.

...and why the hell is he using the talking points of the left in the first place?


4 posted on 04/17/2014 4:53:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Kaslin

The majority does NOT support what VDH is proposing here.

The ONLY way is for these people to go back to their home country and re-apply to come legally.

To do otherwise is flipping a big ol’ F.U. to all of the LEGAL immigrants who obeyed our laws and came here the proper way.


6 posted on 04/17/2014 4:56:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Who is talking about mass deportation? That’s a red herring. In some cases aggressive enforcement may lead to many immigrants going home (see President Eisenhower’s initiative)but for the most part as the current laws are enforced fairly most illegals will go home. We really need to follow the lead of Canada and review our policy of granting citizenship as a birthright. One cannot do this in a welfare state and expect anything other than what is happening now.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 5:02:00 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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So... when people come out FOR murder and AGAINST murder, the rational thing to do is pass a law forgiving murders already committed.

And when people come out FOR bank robbery and AGAINST bank robbery, the rational thing to do is pass a law forgiving bank robberies already committed.

The law is the law; either it means something or it means nothing.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 5:02:07 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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RE :”Permit those who have resided here for a while, who are without criminal records and are employed, to apply inside the U.S. for either a pathway to citizenship or legal residence.
Require that those residing here unlawfully pay a fine for breaking the law and wait in line until immigrants who followed the law are first processed.”

This is where it breaks down, and where he contradicts himself.

The Rubio-Schumer amnesty bill still allowed them to get some federal benefits during probation while Rubio claimed it didn't. Any amnesty bill will end up putting illegals at the front of the immigration line, then they will demand all their relatives get amnesty too.

12 posted on 04/17/2014 5:10:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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I’m for amnesty for illegal aliens ! They get amnesty from prosecution for illegal entry and theft of American services provided they go home along with their anchor babies. If they don’t 10 years in prison and the anchor babies get deported to their country of origin that has jurisdiction over them. The home country can provide for their citizen’s children until they are deported after serving their sentence. You start doing that they will not come.
If we have to amend the Constitution to read “ Citizenship by birth can only be conferred by legal citizens and those who have immigrated legally and have received citizenship status. Birth on U S territory does not confer any privileges or benefits to non citizens or their children.”


13 posted on 04/17/2014 5:11:45 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: Kaslin
The real saboteurs are the people selectively enforcing current immigration law.

If they are selectively enforcing this one, they'll selectively enforce a new one.

Enforce current law and we can discuss a new one.

24 posted on 04/17/2014 5:29:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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I hear politicians say we need a “pathway to citizenship for illegals.”

How about I-35 south?


25 posted on 04/17/2014 5:29:15 AM PDT by IamConservative
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Well the reason that “Americans” polled that want something in between is probably because you’re polling Hispanics or the illegal immigrants themselves


28 posted on 04/17/2014 5:36:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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The two extreme positions of the Left and Right probably have little public support -- on the one hand, blanket amnesties and open borders, and on the other, deportation of all foreign nationals who reside here without legal authorization.

Aside from Globalists and anti-white leftist loons who is against deportation of foreign nationals in principle if not in practice?

31 posted on 04/17/2014 5:41:19 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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The solution to the immigration problem is simple.

1. close the borders. Build a fence.
2. Deport aliens as caught.
3. Enforce employer sanctions vigorously.
4. Reunite families in their countries of origin.
5. End birthright citizenship
6 Close the borders.


32 posted on 04/17/2014 5:46:07 AM PDT by chesley
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Permit those who have resided here for a while, who are without criminal records and are employed, to apply inside the U.S. for either a pathway to citizenship or legal residence.

Ahhhh NO.


41 posted on 04/17/2014 6:24:57 AM PDT by Altura Ct. (i)
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In 2007 then Senator Obama helped kill the Bush “immigration reform” push on orders from the AFL-CIO. The unions may publicly support amnesty today but in reality most of them oppose it because it threatens jobs and wages. Obama is now caught between the real interests of organized labor and a desire by the Democrat establishment to flood the country with 10 to 20 million new political partisans.
63 posted on 04/17/2014 7:37:27 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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