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Observatory Park man charged in wife's murder; pot shop pulls edibles (legal dope/slow cops=murder)
Longmont Times-Call ^ | 04/18/2014 | Jordan Steffen

Posted on 04/19/2014 8:40:57 AM PDT by catnipman

Prosecutors have filed a first-degree murder charge against a 47-year-old Observatory Park man accused of killing his wife while she pleaded for help on a call with a 911 operator.

Richard Kirk purchased marijuana candy about 6:40 p.m. Monday and is accused of shooting his wife to death about three hours later.

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The 44-year-old woman spent 13 minutes on the phone with the 911 operator. According to dispatch recordings, it took officers more than 15 minutes to arrive at the brick Tudor home.

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(Excerpt) Read more at timescall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; cops; marijuana; marijuanacandy; murder; pot; reefermadness
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Already, yet another tragedy caused by legal dope in Colorado. This guy was apparently a good guy and devoted husband and father until he made the fatal mistake of consuming some poor quality-control pot "edibles" that appear to be have been massively overly potent.

Also, a classic example of "when seconds count, the police are minutes away", in this case 15 minutes away, which turned out to be two minutes too long for the murdered mother.

I truly hope this man presses a gazillion dollar lawsuit against this pot shop and the makers of this "candy". A big win would go a long ways to cracking up the "legal" dope "industry" in both this state and the rest. I guess that's the one silver lining to making dope legal: you can sue the bastards who've harmed you. Can't wait for lawsuits that start happening for death and mayhem on the highways due to pot intoxication, as there is no liability protection for pot sellers in this state like there is for alcohol. And soon there will be the lawsuits for chronic damage like brain atrophy, loss of employment, etc.

(Also, I imagine this poor man will have a darn good defense in court as well, as clearly he had greatly diminished capacity, which was recorded on the dispatcher's tape to boot.)

1 posted on 04/19/2014 8:40:57 AM PDT by catnipman
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To: catnipman

Did he know he was consuming it?


2 posted on 04/19/2014 8:43:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: catnipman

This proves that 911 is the Gov’ts idea of Dial A Prayer.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 8:48:35 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: catnipman

“Already, yet another tragedy caused by legal dope in Colorado. This guy was apparently a good guy and devoted husband and father until he made the fatal mistake of consuming some poor quality-control pot “edibles” that appear to be have been massively overly potent.”

Caused by...prove it.
devoted husband and father...they usually buy drugs, right?
mistake...how?


4 posted on 04/19/2014 8:49:30 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: catnipman

And if we give drivers licenses to illegals, they won’t drive drunk any more..


5 posted on 04/19/2014 8:50:13 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: catnipman
One of the early stories on this incident included this classic line:

'They were almost there,' Sonny Jackson, a Denver Police Department spokesman, told The Denver Post.

Oddly, later reporting seems to drop this weak attempt to say, "We weren't really all that late; we almost got there in time."

6 posted on 04/19/2014 8:54:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: EEGator

He thought about doing it long time and used Candy Weed as an excuse.


7 posted on 04/19/2014 8:57:37 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: catnipman

This guy is no victim.


8 posted on 04/19/2014 8:59:31 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: catnipman

This is DEFINITELY a”get Out Of Jail”Card!!


9 posted on 04/19/2014 9:04:35 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: RginTN
"This guy is no victim."


10 posted on 04/19/2014 9:10:53 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: catnipman

Note to self: Never buy prepared food in Colorado. Eat out of a can!


11 posted on 04/19/2014 9:12:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: RginTN

I would say that he was a participant.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 9:12:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: catnipman

The article states that his wife said he may have taken pain pills as well. I wonder if the drugs interacted? I guess toxicology will give the full results later...


13 posted on 04/19/2014 9:12:20 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: catnipman; GeronL

Suspicious candy... what might have been added when making it or what it might have affected him in the blood mix, since it is not likely the MJ caused such erratic behavior.

Marijuana is not a stimulant like cocaine or other drugs, in fact it has the opposite effect. Unless he was on a psychotic medicine or mood altering drug like Paxil....known to create violent thoughts.

I taught STDs and Drugs, along with Juvenile Delinquency/Juvenile Justice, so my take is something was added to those candies during the process. There are a 100 murders due to some online purchases at a cocaine website.


14 posted on 04/19/2014 9:12:51 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: catnipman

Note to self: Never take food in return for distributing 30 round magazines while in Colorado. CASH ONLY!;-D


15 posted on 04/19/2014 9:13:29 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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Oh but that can’t possibly be true....after all the pot folks have told me how safe pot is and how having it sold under approved conditions would be the panacea to all of the world’s ills

Since when is it a good decision to get high? The only reason to use dope is to get high. It is like drinking until you are drunk.....stupid decisions


16 posted on 04/19/2014 9:22:57 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: EEGator

“devoted husband and father...they usually buy drugs, right?”

There are many other articles that have delved into this guy’s history. He’s just a Joe that decided to give “legal” pot a whirl. Unfortunately, I personally know many more who are making this same decision, “Oh, hey, it’s legal now, it might be fun to try, etc.” And almost NONE of these have ever done pot before, or if they did, it was like a million years ago when they were kids and all most people could get then was Mexican brick weed, and they have no idea that what’s being sold now is a 100 times more potent.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 9:23:53 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
"Already, yet another tragedy caused by legal dope in Colorado"

Do you also believe that guns kill people? Blaming inanimate objects or substances is a logical dead-end. This guy was fully responsible for his actions.

18 posted on 04/19/2014 9:23:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: DannyTN

“But on the otherhand, I agree with you. Any one that smokes pot or takes mind altering substances are criminals. “

You mean criminals like people who drink?


19 posted on 04/19/2014 9:25:05 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: muir_redwoods

“This guy was fully responsible for his actions. “

Not if what he consumed was not what it was represented to be. Like if you bought salt at the grocery store and it turned out to be rat poison instead. Or if you bought a bottle of a cordial that said it was 15 proof on the label and it was really 190 proof.


20 posted on 04/19/2014 9:27:09 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kackikat

People who never use drugs will find ingesting it is toxic and can produce hallucinations in some people


21 posted on 04/19/2014 9:28:00 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Nifster

“Since when is it a good decision to get high? The only reason to use dope is to get high. It is like drinking until you are drunk.....stupid decisions”

It’s not a good idea. But, unfortunately, I personally know many more who are making this same decision, “Oh, hey, it’s legal now, it might be fun to try, etc.” And almost NONE of these peoppler have ever done pot before, or if they did, it was like a million years ago when they were kids and all most people could get then was Mexican brick weed, and they have no idea that what’s being sold now is a 100 times more potent. That’s one of the big problems of having the imprimir of legality.

And then there’s the little issue of quality-control of this “legal” but unregulated substance. Like, “Here, take of these, it’s the right amount”, but there’s a little problem in the mixer at the pot factory and the candy is 100 times more potent than claimed. Like if you buy a cordial labeled 15 proof and its really 190 proof.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 9:32:30 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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"You mean criminals like people who drink?",/i>

If they drink to excess, yes. If they drink and drive yes. They've checked personal responsibility at the door and put everyone at risk.

23 posted on 04/19/2014 9:35:26 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Kackikat

“Marijuana is not a stimulant like cocaine or other drugs, in fact it has the opposite effect.”

Ever wonder what it would feel like to ingest a whole ounce of Kush all at once? Would not be pleasant. Would definitely induce psychosis. And that’s the big problem with these super-potent, poorly controlled potency edibles.

It’s not like you take a hit and go, “WOOOOOEEEEEE, that’s enough for me, this stuff is too killer.” Nope, you swallow it and then you’re screwed if it’s 100 times what you thought it was going to be. Basically, your classical OD situation.

These edibles are not your father’s Brick Weed.


24 posted on 04/19/2014 9:36:22 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

If you ban it, ban all of it (that includes alcohol). I bet 60-70% of the crimes I prosecuted had alcohol involved in some manner.

Both pot and alcohol should be legal (if a State wants it). Period.


25 posted on 04/19/2014 9:44:25 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: GeronL

“People who never use drugs will find ingesting it is toxic and can produce hallucinations in some people”

Especially if it’s 100 times more potent than they were expecting because of poor quality control or misrepresentation.

These edibles are really bad news and will be causing many, many more deaths before the state steps in and bans them, or regulates the quality-control and mandates maximum potency.

Basically, it’s the wild west here in Colorado right now and there’s no law that actually prohibits manufacturing lethal doses.


26 posted on 04/19/2014 9:45:48 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

I can only assume the next time a guy gets drunk and shoots his wife you are going to be pulling for the return of prohibition, citing the lack of a medical need for whiskey.


27 posted on 04/19/2014 9:50:27 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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Wait . . . Cannabis causes acute paranoia? There is no way the state legislators could have possibly seen that coming.

That being said, the guy wanted to get stoned. He was dumb enough to believe the pothead hype.

28 posted on 04/19/2014 9:51:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: momtothree

“The article states that his wife said he may have taken pain pills as well. I wonder if the drugs interacted?”

Speaking of “legal dope”...


29 posted on 04/19/2014 9:54:26 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: catnipman

Mexican brick weed....haven’t heard that term in a while.... almost as good as Kansas brown

I hope other states are paying attention


30 posted on 04/19/2014 9:54:37 AM PDT by Nifster
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What is this "marijuana edibles" I keep hearing about? I thought marijuana was something you smoked in a pipe or hand-rolled cigarette? Now I hear they are putting marijuana in Cadbury cream eggs, Snicker bars and even brownies!

Is this for real or an Onion put-on?

31 posted on 04/19/2014 9:56:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: GeronL

[ Did he know he was consuming it? ]

As opposed to using it as a suppository?


32 posted on 04/19/2014 10:05:32 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: catnipman

It’s OK...
The cause of “liberalism” was served by getting a bunch of low-info dupes to the pole to vote Democrat.

What are a few murders, and driving deaths, compared to the greater glory of electing Democrats?

Remember, kiddies. There are going to be several pot referendums on the ballot in November, in states like Florida, that we need to win, to retake Congress.


33 posted on 04/19/2014 10:06:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Well, I have to wonder what other psych drugs this man may have been on...

People think pot is so damn harmless that the idea of ANY drug interactions escapes them...


34 posted on 04/19/2014 10:06:29 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bandleader

[ This is DEFINITELY a”get Out Of Jail”Card!! ]

You have to wonder if he bought the pot as a “chemical alibi”....

Act crazy, kill wife then take pot, claim the first memory is seeing police shine lights in face..


35 posted on 04/19/2014 10:07:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: catnipman

If only there wasn’t a gun in the house.


36 posted on 04/19/2014 10:33:27 AM PDT by Wolfie
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The problem is the FOUR to SIX times higher dose of THC in the edibles than what it “should” be. This should be regulated. You can’t sell beer with 20% alcohol.


37 posted on 04/19/2014 10:37:34 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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It’s a shame you know many stupid people. If making something legal is what makes up their minds, they’re jackasses.


38 posted on 04/19/2014 10:46:20 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SamAdams76

People have been eating pot brownies for decades.


39 posted on 04/19/2014 10:50:00 AM PDT by EEGator
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"Kristine A. Kirk called 911 at 9:31 p.m. Monday to report that her husband was ranting about the end of the world, hallucinating and urging her to shoot him, according to a search-warrant affidavit."

This has been portrayed on some news programs as being about domestic violence. While it ended up being about domestic violence, it didn't start that way. The information given at 9:31 p.m. was that her husband was ranting about the end of the world, he was hallucinating, and he wanted her to shoot him. So, should the police have arrived sooner? Of course. While we don't see information here that the dispatcher was told that there WAS gun in the house, it has to be assumed. Add the information about him hallucinating and a reasonable conclusion is that the husband is a danger to himself and others.

40 posted on 04/19/2014 11:12:11 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: catnipman

I’m not here to argue any of your points...


41 posted on 04/19/2014 1:32:07 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: EEGator

“It’s a shame you know many stupid people. If making something legal is what makes up their minds, they’re jackasses.”

They are by no means jackasses or stupid, merely curious and naive.


42 posted on 04/19/2014 1:34:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: steve86

“The problem is the FOUR to SIX times higher dose of THC in the edibles than what it “should” be. This should be regulated. You can’t sell beer with 20% alcohol.”

Technically, right now, there is no specific law in Colorado prohibiting “edibles” that contain lethal doses.


43 posted on 04/19/2014 1:35:10 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: GraceG

“As opposed to using it as a suppository?”

He didn’t know he was consuming a near-lethal dose. You know, like when you take an aspirin you think is the right dose, but the manufacturer made it 100 times stronger than labeled on the bottle.


44 posted on 04/19/2014 1:37:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SamAdams76

“What is this “marijuana edibles” I keep hearing about? I thought marijuana was something you smoked in a pipe or hand-rolled cigarette? Now I hear they are putting marijuana in Cadbury cream eggs, Snicker bars and even brownies! “

Unfortunately, it’s real, it’s legal in Colorado (but not the Federal law obama refuses to enforce), unregulated, unsupervised, and the manufacturing method is to chemically extract the THC and then combine arbitrarily high amounts of the extracted THC with candy, cookies, brownies, and soda pop, and then sell them commercially.


45 posted on 04/19/2014 1:39:42 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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The man will plead diminished capacity and get off.


46 posted on 04/19/2014 4:20:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: DannyTN

I mean who makes the pot brownies, candy and other edibles? Do they have a license? Is there quality control and inspection? A little girl opens a lemonade stand and they are all over her.

Rush should have another “baked” sale in CO.


47 posted on 04/19/2014 4:33:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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“The man will plead diminished capacity and get off.”

Probably. That is a recognized defense in Colorado. It won’t get his wife, his children’s mother, or his life back though.


48 posted on 04/19/2014 6:16:45 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Technically, right now, there is no specific law in Colorado prohibiting “edibles” that contain lethal doses.

Yes, I know; not in Washington either. But we're working on regulation to prohibit dangerous dosage.

49 posted on 04/19/2014 7:09:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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“But we’re working on regulation to prohibit dangerous dosage. “

I feel so much better now.


50 posted on 04/19/2014 7:14:32 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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