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In Illinois, Tax Increases Become an Article of Faith
WSJ On-line ^ | April 25, 2014 | Heather Wilhelm

Posted on 04/26/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by Pontiac

Donning orange T-shirts reading "Faith in Action," a coalition of religious groups flooded the state capitol in Springfield, singing hymns, shouting "Hallelujah," and praying for higher taxes on the rich. Their goal: replacing the state's long-standing flat income tax with a new, progressive "Fair Tax."

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When asked whether additional tax revenue would really be used to help the poor, supporters like Rev. Hawking and Rev. Coulter tend to change the subject. When asked whether a progressive tax might backfire by driving wealth and jobs out of Illinois, both doubted anyone would leave. Besides, Rev. Hawking told me, "minimum wage earners," not the wealthy, "are the real job creators." The numbers, which show Illinois ranking second in the nation in outbound moves and losing more than $30 billion in adjusted gross income between 1992 and 2010, suggest otherwise.

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"These are people who put their faith in government to do what communities and churches should be doing," Mr. Greenberg said. "There's just this strange faith in government in general—which, as the corrupt and incompetent government in Illinois clearly demonstrates, is a seriously flawed faith." Brian Burch, the president of Catholic Vote, an Illinois advocacy group, put it another way: "They're substituting the state for God."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: illinois; religion; taxes; unions
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It sickens me to see the Christian faith and the Bible subverted to pick the pockets of tax payers to enrich Unions or anyone else

When will these people accept that if it isn’t voluntary it isn’t Christian charity.

Sorry. If you put your faith in government you will always be disappointed.

1 posted on 04/26/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

The Caesars were deities too. Illinois is a lost cause.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 8:08:17 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Pontiac

The Church of Covetousness and Theft


3 posted on 04/26/2014 8:10:25 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: virgil

Springfield may be the capital but Chicago runs the state and Chicago is as corrupt as Rome was in its hay day.


4 posted on 04/26/2014 8:11:29 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Loaded up the Truck and moved out of ILLINOIS!

5 posted on 04/26/2014 8:13:14 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: all the best
The Church of Covetousness and Theft

I believe that Church has a monastic order called the Brothers of Graft and Fraud.

6 posted on 04/26/2014 8:13:58 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Worshipers in the Church of Envy.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 8:14:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Pontiac

The six contradictions of socialism in the United States of America:

1. America is capitalistic and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized.

2. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.

3. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.

4. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.

5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.

6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

That, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the 21st Century.

Get out and vote and set this country back on its course!


8 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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Great Post!


9 posted on 04/26/2014 8:20:12 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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This is what happens when stupid people are allowed to vote.

Oh, yes - the "rich people" will stay put in Illinois for the tax-raping...

10 posted on 04/26/2014 8:20:26 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: from occupied ga
Worshipers in the Church of Envy.

Kneel at the altar of theft.

11 posted on 04/26/2014 8:22:38 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To all those in LIB-asshat Freak states: LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN! There is no hope for them.
12 posted on 04/26/2014 8:25:04 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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They follow Pilate not Christ.

Christ sacrifice himself for us.. but they see it as Pilate sacrifice Christ for them.

It changes Christ from a self sacrifice Savior to a scapegoat pick by Pilate the state to pay

All they care is someone else gets nailed to the cross to pay their debts

13 posted on 04/26/2014 8:35:12 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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This is what happens when stupid people are allowed to vote.

Stupid no, foolish and ill-informed yes.

Most of the people who vote for these taxes think that the money will be put to good use. Rush calls them low information voters. If you don’t pay attention to the news of the day or if you only pay attention to the Liberal media you will get the idea that government actually does a good job of improving people’s lives.

Oh, yes - the "rich people" will stay put in Illinois for the tax-raping...

For much of history the rich did tolerate high taxes because their factories were tied to a particular city and moving was very expensive. Today technology has overcome that obstacle. The rich are becoming mobile in a way that was impossible in the past.

Tax and spend politicians had better wake up and smell the swamp that they have been living in because their high tax cities and states are sinking in that swamp of debt they have created.

The rich are smart enough that know they no longer need to live in the swamps and the sunny states of low taxes are looking pretty good these days.

14 posted on 04/26/2014 8:36:56 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I wonder if the phrase “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods” rings a bell with any of them.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 8:51:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Hate to bust your bubble, 60+ years ago the US was not in such a dire state. Why? We had a well paid middle class. If you did not go to college, but good with your hands, you can get a good factory job. Today we went down the road of globalism and free trade. Result, skills Americans had are taught to foreign workers to replace them. 1980’s factories close, middle class offered only service jobs. Now high tech gone global. Engineering and software skills were taught and transfered to China and India in the 1990’s, and when these foreign workers achieved skills at or near parity to US tech workers, jobs flew overseas. Now upper middle class can join the middle and working middle class in lower income and standard of living. Want to be rich? Be born into a rich family; become a celebrity (music, movie, sports) possess a unique rare high tech skill; or start your own company in an area not dominated by existing corporate America. Other then that be ready to serve in a servioe job. Only hope US has is fracking, but fracking cannot replace all the high paying middle class jobs lost to globalization and free trade. Other option is leave the US and go to Asia where all the money in the world is flowing to. Great leaders of great nations never sell or teach their rivals skills to compete against them. Unfortunately we are ruled by 1 percenter who cares only about their bonuses and self. They will sell their mothers for a percent of the action. Atleast the captains of industry of the 19th Century (Rockefellar, Carnegie, etc etc etc) remember they were Americans. Not this new bunch of “American” CEOs, lobbyists and gov officials. Go to China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan etc etc, no Asian will volunteer to be a lobbyist to our business interests to undermine their own nations industries. We are the only ones that do that for a six figure salary. Until we clean out our society of such thinking as well as corrupted population, we will remain as slaves while the few on top make tons of money at our expense.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 8:54:39 AM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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The current IL flat income tax and exemptions are the only thing that is holding the IL tax base together. I know several retired snowbirds who keep their IL house and residency just because the income tax is relatively modest. Change that and lots of retired rich folks will leave IL. The state will become bluer and poorer.


17 posted on 04/26/2014 9:04:28 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Pontiac

Wonder what they think of taxing church property. I know , first amendment. Nonetheless , expose their hypocrisy.


18 posted on 04/26/2014 9:05:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: DuncanWaring

I think in their churches that bell’s clapper was lost long ago.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 9:06:26 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Apparently.


20 posted on 04/26/2014 9:15:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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