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Russian Su -24 scores off against the American "USS Donald Cook"
Russian Radio ^ | 4-21-2014

Posted on 04/27/2014 5:13:29 AM PDT by Renfield

Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system "Aegis" installed on the destroyer "USS Donald Cook". Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.

US destroyer "Donald Cook" with cruise missiles "Tomahawk" entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.

In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, "Aegis" spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. "Aegis" was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.

Apparently, all efforts to revive the "Aegis" and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia's reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:

The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with "Aegis", the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the "Aegis” system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.

After the incident, the foreign media reported that "Donald Cook" was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.

What are the possible consequences of the incident provoked by the U.S. in the Black Sea? Pavel Zolotarev forecasts:

I think that Americans are somehow going to reflect on improving the system “Aegis". This is a purely military aspect. In political terms, there is hardly any likelihood of demonstrative steps by either side. That is enough. Meanwhile, for Americans it is a very unpleasant moment. In general, the missile defence system which they deploy involves huge expenditures. They have to prove each time that it is necessary to allocate funds from the budget. At the same time, the ground component of the ABM was tested in ideal conditions and showed a low efficiency. This fact is concealed by the Pentagon. The most modern component, the sea-based system "Aegis" also showed its shortcomings in the present case.

The system with which the Russian Su-24 shocked the American destroyer "Donald Cook" has the code name "Khibiny". This is the name of the mountain range on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. "Khibiny" is the newest complex for radioelectronic jamming of the enemy. They will be installed on all the advanced Russian planes .

Recently the complex has undergone regular testing exercises on the ground in Buryatia. Apparently, the tests which were conducted under conditions as close to real as possible, were successful.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: military; navair; russia; ukraine
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To: Renfield
After the incident, the foreign media reported that "Donald Cook" was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.

The is pure propaganda BS. Classic Soviet era BS.

21 posted on 04/27/2014 5:52:17 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
the Soviets are doing us a favor if they show us their countermeasures prior to combat.

I agree. It would be stupid to show you cards like this. Sounds like propaganda.

22 posted on 04/27/2014 5:53:18 AM PDT by McGruff (Clinton had his Kosovo, Obama has his Ukraine.)
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To: Renfield

Must be a Russian version of the Onion.


23 posted on 04/27/2014 5:56:23 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Renfield

One SU-24 with an EW pod did not shut down Aegis. Ridiculous.


24 posted on 04/27/2014 5:58:54 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: ryan71
One SU-24 with an EW pod did not shut down Aegis. Ridiculous

The Su-24 would have to be more EW hardened than the ship (or the avionics might not function). Is that possible?

25 posted on 04/27/2014 6:02:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Renfield

The only serious point, which isn’t even made here, is that the US Navy would have a very hard time conducting war time operations in the Black Sea.

The USN is centered on carrier strike groups and they aren’t going in there. US DDGs are not battle cruisers and they would be very exposed to massed missile attacks, without a long enough reach to do anything but play defense.


26 posted on 04/27/2014 6:08:51 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

How about “the Russians have now admitted to committing an act of war against the US” ?


27 posted on 04/27/2014 6:09:53 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: Renfield
Naval anti-buzzing device:


28 posted on 04/27/2014 6:14:34 AM PDT by fso301
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To: PLMerite

Plus enlisted members of the crew can not resign. Junior officers (less then 6 years of service) can not resign either.


29 posted on 04/27/2014 6:18:56 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Renfield

The Cold War ENDED almost 25 years ago and WE WON!!!

No need for further military R&D. Now let’s move on and show that we can bomb Botswana into submission.


30 posted on 04/27/2014 6:21:51 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Renfield

Just a dumb old grunt here, but I call BS on this article.

And how in hell can a military person RESIGN from active duty? Hey Top, I resign. Yeah. Sure. LMAO


31 posted on 04/27/2014 6:22:46 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: ricmc2175

True. Use of EW measures preemptively against a US warship could certainly be considered a hostile act.


32 posted on 04/27/2014 6:30:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kozak
Looks like Soviet Pravda and Izvestia are back in business.

In the past Pravda and Izvestia were models of leftist propaganda and disinformation. Now, they take lessons from the New York Times! /S

33 posted on 04/27/2014 6:32:39 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Renfield

The truth can be verified by the DOD and told to the public.

However, since the election of the “Communist in Chief”, NOTHING CAN BE BELIEVED from the government...PERIOD!

Now we find ourselves in a real fix since all statements from the government (on all levels from local to national) are first, assumed to be a lie unless proven otherwise.

This is just how far down the sh.t hole we have come.


34 posted on 04/27/2014 6:35:30 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Renfield
Is boolshiite.

Part is not boolshiite which is that any USN units operating in Black Sea are toasted blini in the event of hostility. Don't call it "BLACK SEA," Call it "Lake Russki."

SU-24? Is Russki A-10 equivalent, only faster. In fact, look like the losing Lockheed entry in the A-10 competition of yesteryear.

35 posted on 04/27/2014 6:42:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((GOP) ..... GIVE OBAMA POWER)
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To: Renfield

It looks like a classic EMP attack.


36 posted on 04/27/2014 6:44:32 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The su24 is more like the F111. i think you are confusing with SU25


37 posted on 04/27/2014 6:46:21 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Renfield

Why do I think this is BS?


38 posted on 04/27/2014 6:46:28 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: lavaroise

You really need to study what EMP is and not listen to the press hype.


39 posted on 04/27/2014 6:48:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: PLMerite

Obviously this is a typo and they meant to say
287, also that the crew asked to join the Russian
navy for protection...


40 posted on 04/27/2014 6:49:14 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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