Posted on 04/27/2014 4:45:59 PM PDT by mgist
I don’t like any of you three Freepers.
The truth is a terrible taskmaster.
LOL
Your truth.
Nonsense, by my EXPERIENCE, but your truth by your SUPPOSITION.
Guess who wins?
My purpose in life is not for you to like me.
In fact (since much of the posting on this forum by and about you revolves around whether or not you would have sex with someone) it is a relief if you do not.
Except that I used to be an addict. I chose to become an addict and I chose to remain an addict. I also chose to quit being an addict. If I choose, I can go back to being an addict.
But it is my choice alone. No one or nothing else is to blame.
Good, because you succeeded.
In fact (since much of the posting on this forum by and about you revolves around whether or not you would have sex with someone) it is a relief if you do not.
'S called a running gag. Guess you don't humor much, either.
If you think you have a choice about being an addict, perhaps you never were.
I like humor fine.
But not on threads involving adults having sex with minors.
Ever.
Go kill some recovering addicts.
So you are a victim of fate? Hence the problem. You don’t feel like it was your fault. Fate caused you to do it. That’s why you get so upset when you hear it might be your fault.
The regret of what I have done is what keeps me from going back. I don’t want to go through that again and I know it is my choice if I do. I am comfortable knowing that I am basically an evil person. I deserve to be punished for what I have done. If I thought I was a good person, I would grieve over what I have done.
The substance did not cause me to do anything I would not have done otherwise. It never does.
I have no problem with recovering addicts.
And never posted that I did.
Unrepentant criminal addicts, I won’t miss. That was my post. I stand by it.
Even them, I wouldn’t go out and kill.
I will not return your comment in kind by telling you to go joke about adults who get their jollies screwing kids. Because I want you to stop doing that.
When you can't stop for your starving children and rotting body. When not even your own death is a deterrent, that is the definition of “can't”.
The person has lost all control of themselves and they CAN'T stop without physical intervention. If there is any physical possibility of getting drugs, their mind will play tricks on them to get high at all costs.
“If you lock them up for 30 days, they will prove to themselves and others that they can quit.”
When you remove all physical access to a chemical, of course they will stop. You are not giving them any physical freedom to do so.
But as soon as they get out and have the chance to get the chemical again, they often will. Even if they managed to get beyond the chemical dependence, the mind still craves that chemical for life. It is a constant 24/7 battle for the rest of their lives. They forever hear a voice convincing them to take "just one more hit" and that voice gets louder/smarter whenever they hit a speedbump in life. A true chronic mental illness for which there is no true cure.
And don't say “it's their fault for trying it the first time”. 80% of addicts get started on legal Rx opiates or stimulants. Almost 10% of people are prescribed addictive pills as children. Big pharma is the true world-wide dope cartel and responsible for most of this carnage. The WOD is mainly a program to eliminate competition.
Nope. Not it at all. In fact, you DEMONSTRATE you were not an addict. This is what you wrote:
The regret of what I have done is what keeps me from going back. I dont want to go through that again and I know it is my choice if I do....
This is not my experience. The AMA has done only a few things right, one of them was a very concise, very real definition of addiction, to wit: "a primary, chronic disease characterized by recurring use of drugs or alcohol, preoccupation with drugs or alcohol, and use of drugs or alcohol despite adverse consequences.
See, adverse consequences never slowed me down.
It is only the steps and a reliance on God that helps keep me clean.
I suggest that by your very own definition of your experience, you were not an addict, but only a heavy user or drinker.
LOL
Won’t bother retorting with you, a-hole.
I was there for my child starting from the end of the Gulf war. I didnt wait until my child was ten. Getting a pension wasnt an equivalent priority.
Some of the mentally ill need drugs to function but they don't sure anything. Many of the legal psychoactive drugs are prescribed in lieu of proper treatment because treatment is too expensive. Many psychoactive drug users are deluding themselves into thinking they can't function without them.
Yes, today they cannot function without them, but with proper treatment most of them can be weened in months, although some might take longer. One of the most important features of Obamacare is that such drug treatment will cost the government next to nothing. At the same time it will create a dependent class of voters who will vote reliably for their free drugs. Even more reliable than the 99% Obama inner city districts.
“Many of the legal psychoactive drugs are prescribed in lieu of proper treatment because treatment is too expensive. Many psychoactive drug users are deluding themselves into thinking they can’t function without them. ...At the same time it will create a dependent class of voters who will vote reliably for their free drugs.”
100%. People cry that government will use pot to dumb/control the population while all the pills actually do a far better, controlled job of it. Many schools are making mind-numbing addictive drugs mandatory for kids that stand out. You CHILD can even legally be prescribed METH (if they have a high tolerance to stimulants) to become an addict and big government voter for life!
Drug maker procurement of opium is one of the shadiest businesses in the world. It always requires some dealings with Muslim terrorists. Access to cheap opium is worth billions to big pharma.
Afghanistan was basically the installation of a puppet government to control the world's largest opium fields.
There are not, however as many addicts who were from parentally supervised homes. A home that announces love with words but where the parents spend less time with their child than the child’s friends is not the same thing.
Our child played with children whose parents we knew, with us there until he was in his mid teens. Even then he spent as much of his waking hours with his family as with his peers. School hours included.
Under that circumstance, early substance use pretty much requires that the
parents be in on it.
Love alone is not enough. Physically expressed love and personal
attention are also needed.
The church taught this at one time.
The Bible still does.
My child could still go out and become an addict. He is twenty four and has a degree.
The point in all this is not that my son has been made immune to addiction.
It is that I care for my child and I have taught compassion. I just haven’t tought that every behavior of others is equally to he tolerated.
It was alleged up thread that I was uncompassionate. I am merely not universal in my tolerance. And I have grown to the point where I limit my world saving to people not hurting others unrepentantly.
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