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Black students disciplined at higher rates than whites at Wichita-area schools
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 04/26/14 | Suzanne Perez Tobias

Posted on 04/28/2014 9:19:50 AM PDT by Old Yeller

Black students at schools in Wichita and surrounding districts are disciplined at higher rates than their white peers, a trend that mirrors racial disparities throughout the country, according to the most comprehensive survey of school civil rights data in nearly 15 years.

The findings, part of an expansive survey of America’s public schools by the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, shows that black students are more likely than whites to be suspended or expelled at middle and high schools in Wichita and most area districts.

Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities. But local civil rights advocates say overzealous discipline policies or practices continue to target minority students, pulling them out of classrooms and often into the court system. “Statistics speak for themselves,” said David Gilkey, a gang prevention coordinator for the Urban League of Kansas.

“Nothing changes if nothing changes, you know what I mean?” Gilkey said. “It’s been going on for years. This is not nothing new. We just don’t usually talk about it, but it’s coming to the point where we need to address it now.”

Data for the 2010-11 school year shows that nationally, while black students represented 16 percent of overall school enrollment, they represented 32 percent of students suspended in school, 33 percent of students suspended out of school, and 34 percent of students expelled.

In Wichita public schools, black students made up about 18 percent of total enrollment in 2010-11. They accounted for nearly 22 percent of in-school suspensions, 25.6 percent of out-of-school suspensions and nearly 34 percent of expulsions.


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To: Old Yeller
Solution: Suspend several white students each month to bring the percentages more in line.

Suspend them for what you might ask?

For fairness.

21 posted on 04/28/2014 9:34:28 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Old Yeller
We just don’t usually talk about it, but it’s coming to the point where we need to address it now.

I'm all for that. But this guy probably won't like my conclusions.

22 posted on 04/28/2014 9:34:53 AM PDT by wbill
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To: MrB

“Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities. “

If that’s the case then it is obvious what needs to happen. Education officials need to get their money back from where they received their diploma. Because it is clear they are clueless.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 9:35:27 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Old Yeller

I bet you that black students make up a racially disparate percentage of the basketball team and the sprinters on the track team. I bet that non-black students make up a racially disparate percentage of honor roll and graduation qualifiers.


24 posted on 04/28/2014 9:35:58 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Old Yeller
Black students at schools ... are disciplined at higher rates than their white peers,

Unless the comparisons are for similar incidents, the allegations are meaningless

We know from incidents in other schools that nibbling a Pop-tart into the shape of a gun is substantial enough to get a student suspended. IIRC, that particular student was white.
25 posted on 04/28/2014 9:36:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Old Yeller
They score lower on standardized tests too. Maybe we can give them more culturally relevant questions

For example,"Treyvon and Quintavius robs a 7/11. Dey gets $143. Is this enough to buy crack rocks for bof of dem or will dey needs to rob another store?"

"Kinesha is 18 and has 3 dependent chillins. Can Kinesh get enough baby daddies to knock her up so that she can haves enough dependent chillins to keep her in pot, beer, lotto tickets and cigarettes without having to steal on her own by dee time she 25?"

26 posted on 04/28/2014 9:37:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Old Yeller
Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities. But local civil rights advocates say overzealous discipline policies or practices continue to target minority students

Right.
It is commonly believed the school administrators and teachers, both of which who are overwhelmingly liberal, and would bend over backwards to give blacks every possible benefit of the doubt.

Either:
1) Black students are really a greater discipline issue, in general, or
2) Liberals are more racist than is commonly believed.

Either or both is quite plausible. I have experience that both is plausible.

27 posted on 04/28/2014 9:37:03 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Old Yeller
“Statistics speak for themselves,” said David Gilkey, a gang prevention coordinator for the Urban League of Kansas.

The problem with your statistics is that they are based solely upon skin color and nothing else. If you had statistics which demonstrated that black kids who get caught breaking the rules have a higher suspension rate than white kids who get caught breaking those same rules, then you have a case. Otherwise, your statistics are meaningless.

28 posted on 04/28/2014 9:37:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Old Yeller

“Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities.”

Of course. If they say that minority kids are break the law more, the will lose their jobs.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 9:38:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Ask me what I think.)
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To: Old Yeller

Two of the most dangerous words in the English language are “Disparate Impact”. This is the notion that there’s no need to consider the source or cause of any racial imbalance or inequality. The mere existence of the inequality is sufficient to prove wrong doing and require reparations. (This also works for evaluating women’s pay scales versus men’s.) Essentially it is a blank check for unlimited social engineering and wealth redistribution. Karl Marx would be in ecstasy.

I don’t know if the concept of disparate impact is an invention of the Obama administration, but I sure never heard of it before Obama and Holder took office.


30 posted on 04/28/2014 9:40:04 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: mosaicwolf

A childhood friend of mine had an alcoholic father who’d spank both him and his brother and sister, if any one of them had done something wrong, for “fairness.” What does that sort of mindlessness teach? Fear, avoidance and lying, that’s what it teaches. Me, I think his dad was just a mean drunk and it was an excuse to take it out on his kids. Of those three, my former childhood friend is a messed up adult with substance abuse problems, his sister was shot and killed before she got out of her teens by a violent boyfriend, and the youngest son is a personal injury lawyer who won’t have anything to do with his family.


31 posted on 04/28/2014 9:40:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MrB

Dang. Forgot that part.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 9:40:36 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: expat2

That’s not the root cause.

Here’s a “rooter” cause:

Government policies that incentivize the situation where black kids grow up without fathers married to their mothers.


33 posted on 04/28/2014 9:42:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Old Yeller

False premise since the white students probably do not misbehave nearly as badly as the black students, or with the same degree of intensity.


34 posted on 04/28/2014 9:46:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: kidd
Either or both is quite plausible

Good Point.

I had always thought it ridiculous that Schoolteachers - being in one of the more liberal professions, being taught by people who were mostly liberal at institutions ranging from "liberal" to "Raging Liberal", and being steeped in liberalism for most of their lives - would all of a sudden become racist. Unless, as you stated, libs are more racist than commonly believed.

Occam's Razor says that your points 1 and 2 (or both) are absolutely correct. Well stated.

35 posted on 04/28/2014 9:47:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Old Yeller
Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities.

Of course they do. It's politically incorrect to state the obvious truths. We are also confused about why minorities are over represented in prison (with regards to % of populations). Let's just say it's racism instead of talking the reasons for it. This way we can lower the standards for just one segment of the population to make statistics look better. This way we can reconsider the problem later when we again can't figure out why minorities are underemployed and over represented on entitlement programs and in poverty statistics. Thank gawd for democrats. Otherwise we might slow or reverse this cyclical trend.

36 posted on 04/28/2014 9:49:36 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Old Yeller
Data for the 2010-11 school year shows that nationally, while black students represented 16 percent of overall school enrollment, they represented 32 percent of students suspended in school, 33 percent of students suspended out of school, and 34 percent of students expelled.

Black adults represent about 13% of the total US population yet are 50% of the convicted felons, so the schools are just part of the Head Start program.

Career training begins early for the black yutes, mama is a ho and sells crack and there is a known male in only 24% of black tax payer funded, houses.

Since the Great Society debacle, which destroyed the black family, there has been little chance for young blacks to become productive, law abiding citizens.

LBJ and the demonRATS strike again.

37 posted on 04/28/2014 9:50:51 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: kidd
Given that everyone on the left (regardless of color) understands that the disciplinary actions taken are generally warranted, the complaint is nonsensical.

Displinary action is for the student's benefit, not his detriment. Students who respond to discipline in the manner intended become better students and, ultimately, better people.

Therefore, if those on the left complain about the application of discipline, one must conclude that these outcomes are not desired by the left for students of color.

38 posted on 04/28/2014 9:52:53 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: jobim
[AP Chicago.] Blacks in Chicago and surrounding districts are shot at higher rates than their white peers, a trend that mirrors racial disparities throughout the country, according to the most comprehensive survey of civil rights data in nearly 15 years.

Guess Rahm needs to line up whites to be shot in equal numbers to address the inequity....

39 posted on 04/28/2014 9:53:36 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Old Yeller

If anyone — white, black, brown, green, purple — was disciplined unfairly, take it up with school staff. Otherwise STFU on the racism crap.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 10:00:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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