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United Church of Christ sues over NC ban on same-sex marriage
Charlotte Observer ^ | 04/28/2014 | Michael Gordon

Posted on 04/28/2014 10:29:12 AM PDT by GIdget2004

A group of Charlotte-area ministers have helped launch the country’s first faith-based challenge to same-sex marriage, claiming in a lawsuit filed Monday that North Carolina’s laws block them from practicing their religion.

The local religious leaders, who include a rabbi, are joined by colleagues from Asheville and Raleigh along with a national denomination, the United Church of Christ. All of them support the rights of same-sex couples to marry.

They say state prohibitions, including a constitutional amendment passed by voters in 2012, violate their First Amendment right of freedom of religion.

“The core protection of the First Amendment is that government may not regulate religious beliefs or take sides in religious controversies,” says Jonathan Martel, a Washington, D.C., attorney helping with the case.

“Marriage performed by clergy is a spiritual exercise and expression of faith essential to the values and continuity of the religion that government may regulate only where it has a compelling interest.”

The lawsuit was expected to be formally announced in 10:30 a.m. Monday press conference at Holy Covenant United Church of Christ. Church pastor Nancy Allison is one of the persons suing Attorney General Roy Cooper and other state officials, asking that the federal courts in the Western District of North Carolina strike the laws down.

It becomes the 66th legal challenge to marriage bans now in the courts, three of them in North Carolina. But it is the first to attack same-sex marriage bans on religious grounds, said Charlotte attorney Jake Sussman, lead counsel for the group.

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
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1 posted on 04/28/2014 10:29:12 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

Can’t the clergy still perform these marriages?

It’s the civil marriage that is banned,isn’t it?

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2 posted on 04/28/2014 10:31:38 AM PDT by Mears
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To: GIdget2004

BS they can perform “marriages” all they want, they just can’t make them legal.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 10:32:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mears

Exactly.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 10:33:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GIdget2004

"BRAVO!"


5 posted on 04/28/2014 10:33:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: GIdget2004

But government forcing people to act AGAINST their religious faith is somehow constitutional?


6 posted on 04/28/2014 10:33:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GIdget2004

Servants of Satan


7 posted on 04/28/2014 10:34:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: GIdget2004

These so-called pastors no doubt preside over failing churches and congregations of nearly zero.

They have put themselves out there for propaganda purposes only.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 10:35:33 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: GIdget2004
Find me a religion - other than some fringe, wacko "Church of Bob" type-thing - that defines marriage as anything BUT being between one man and one woman, and I'll listen.

Until then, someone should tell these clowns to read up on their theology.

9 posted on 04/28/2014 10:35:38 AM PDT by wbill
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"But government forcing people to act AGAINST their religious faith is somehow constitutional?"

Good point. If this case has merit, then it would logically follow that no one could be prosecuted for - out of religious conviction - refusing to service a gay wedding or - on another issue - for refusing to provide birth control or abortifacient (sp?) drugs under a health plan. But I doubt that the participants in this lawsuit would sign on to those implications.
10 posted on 04/28/2014 10:39:01 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: cripplecreek

Spot on. There is no “ban”, but rather a legal definition of marriage that does not include homosexual pairings.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 10:40:09 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: wbill
"Church of Bob"

LOL Thanks, I needed that.
12 posted on 04/28/2014 10:40:12 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: cripplecreek

Or “normal”. The real and only goal here.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 10:41:36 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

An amicus brief in support of the so called “ban” by avowedly Christian and Jewish churches should be filed to act as a separator from those no-longer-Christian churches that support the union of Bob and Gary.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 10:43:51 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Army Air Corps

This should be immediately thrown out of court based on lack of standing. If this “church” wants to play house, there is nothing stopping them.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 10:45:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GIdget2004

Nothing is stopping them from marrying whoever they deem suitable for marriage. But there would be no way to punish those who disagree with them. So the state needs to be involved to provide a way to punish those who disagree with them about it. I mean, they won’t even marry members of their own faith unless the state gives them permission, so the actual marriages in question must not actually be too important to them.

Freegards


16 posted on 04/28/2014 10:47:55 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: GIdget2004

Even if what they pretend is a religion permits gay “marriages”, state prohibitions on imitation marriages do not infringe. It’s the same as Mormon polygamy - FedGov prohibited polygamy, which LDS permitted Polygamy, with the result that Mormons could not have more than one wife at a time. I’m a very big fan of freedom of religion, but no religion has ever required gay “marriage” and only recognizing real marriages does not affect freedom of religion.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 10:49:28 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: cripplecreek

It should be if the judge follows the law. But I doubt it.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 10:49:30 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: GIdget2004

Someone just took their lamp and tossed it into the abyss.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 10:51:52 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 10:52:18 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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