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Money and the Tea Party
redstate.com ^ | 4/29/14 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/29/2014 9:15:56 AM PDT by cotton1706

From January 1, 2013, through March 31, 2014, the National Republican Senatorial Committee raised $49.6 million, but only gave $126,000.00 to candidate and other political committees. 71% of the money it spent went to its non-electioneering operations. That looks terrible. But it is not.

For example, the NRSC has been paying former employees who are now outside consultants. Those outside consultants have worked to place attack pieces against tea party groups in places like the Washington Post. They’ve written op-eds themselves to advance the NRSC’s agenda — in at least one case failing to disclose an income stream from the NRSC until caught.

Those are not funds paid to candidates or to get particular candidates elected, but the money certainly does advance their agenda.

Over the weekend the Washington Post ran a hit piece on tea party groups that makes it look like they are just in it for the money using similar FEC data to the National Republican Senatorial Committee. Many of my friends who hate the tea party have passed around the story on twitter approvingly, accusing the tea party groups of committing fraud, being liars, in it for the money, etc.

One of the ironies is that some of these groups have rapidly begun to take on the habits of those they oppose. But not all of them have. Many of my friends who embraced the story approvingly did so oblivious to the fact that many of their favorite establishment groups behave the same or worse. More troubling, many embraced the story uncritically when it does not paint an accurate picture of some of the groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; teaparty
Interesting stuff!
1 posted on 04/29/2014 9:15:56 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Many of my friends who hate the tea party have passed around the story on twitter approvingly, accusing the tea party groups of committing fraud, being liars, in it for the money, etc.

I'm seeing that crap a lot lately but who ever is pushing it clearly doesn't understand the concept of leaderless resistance.

It doesn't cost me a dime to informally get together with tea party minded people and talk about issues and candidates.
2 posted on 04/29/2014 9:25:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cotton1706

Since Erick wrote this
‘That looks terrible. But it is not. “
it LOOKS LIKE he is in agreement with the NRSC to attack the Tea party
Cripple creek is totally correct. Our tea party group meets for free and volunteers a ton of time to vette candidates
who btw do seek our endorsement


3 posted on 04/29/2014 9:39:45 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: cotton1706

Donate to your LOCAL Tea Party groups ONLY.


4 posted on 04/29/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: cotton1706

from the article:

“Folks like Jenn Rubin and others will embrace the Washington Post story as proof that the tea party is corrupt. The NRSC will circulate to discourage donors to these groups. The truth is far more complicated “

NRSC at this stage does not give money to any candidate that has a primary challenge. NRSC does do large scale opposition research on the likely democrat opponents. NRSC does do polling. NRSC also runs a candidate school that helps candidates prepare for handling the media and handling FEC paperwork.


5 posted on 04/29/2014 9:56:12 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: cripplecreek

At this stage of the game, teaparty is about attacking other republicans. NRSC is about winning in November.


6 posted on 04/29/2014 9:58:07 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: cotton1706; All

“Interesting stuff”

Really ..!! And how interesting is it that the primary elections that have been held so far have resulted in TEA PARTY MEMBERS BEING ELECTED.

Hmmmmmm ..?? How about a 2010 on steroids!!!


7 posted on 04/29/2014 10:05:32 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: RWGinger

I’m actually quicker to trust a candidate who doesn’t come looking for a tea party endorsement. My current congressman was one of those who didn’t claim a tea party connection because he said that was a choice the voters have to make. He did join the tea party caucus after being elected.

There are also establishment candidates who are firm enough that they don’t draw tea party challenges. Terri Land is one such candidate running for the Carl Levin seat and winning. She knows how top play the game and doesn’t go out of her way to kick the tea party in the teeth.

The simple fact is that the “moderates” like to complain about conservative “purists” but its really not true.


8 posted on 04/29/2014 10:07:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

that is a point BUT we vette pretty thoroughly every single candidate so if we invite someone to our ‘ interview’ and he refuses that is a good sign he doesn’t fit the conservative agenda.


9 posted on 04/29/2014 10:19:21 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: cotton1706

Erick exposes a fact that can not get published outside the base.

What do we do with it— sit on it?

Call me if this gets any loft at all in media, any time, any place, by anyone.

Heck, it probably won’t attract the side bar of FR.


10 posted on 04/29/2014 10:24:17 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm seeing that crap a lot lately but who ever is pushing it clearly doesn't understand the concept of leaderless resistance

Well put.

Tea Party candidates and their supporters don't need or want to be "told" what their position should be on any particular issue.

The establishment Republicans have an organizational structure based on a platform that has evolved over the years to maximize fund raising.

The Tea Party has virtually no structure and is based on a platform written over 200 hundred years.

Arrogance and elitism clearly exists in the Democrat Party platform, but it also exists in the establishment/leadership of the Republican Party.

If the US Constitution is your guide, then you don't need the Party structure that the Establishment offers.

This is clearly a threat to their very existence.

11 posted on 04/29/2014 10:27:31 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Where ever more than 1 of us gathers, there the tea party is.

I just invited my new neighbor to a tea party “meeting”. He was reluctant at first because he wasn’t interested in joining any group but he changed his mind when I pointed out that it was just breakfast at a local diner with no formality.


12 posted on 04/29/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: staytrue; Norm Lenhart; BlackElk; Jim Robinson; Tennessee Nana; humblegunner; grania

You mean like the “other Republicans” regularly “attack” the Tea Party?

I bet you roll-over-and-fool-me-again loser types would like the Tea Party to do the same.

The Constitution, the oaths of office, and tradition are being modified in the open now by the roll over crowd in the Republican Party Establishment and among their no fight followers, exchanged for your padded landing, instead of for the preservation of a Republic.

You can go Marxist Lite in a skirt, but it looks really bad on FR, imnsho.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. Maybe there could be a forum
for roll over types. It could be called, “Tools of the Establishment”.


13 posted on 04/29/2014 11:01:04 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: staytrue

That’s simply because they are liberals and thus deserve to be attacked for their liberal actions.

It is getting harder by the day to try having civil discussions when supposed constitutional/conservatives insist on making statements like this. If this mentality is acceptable here now then as I said yesterday. Lets all just vote RINO and be done with it.


14 posted on 04/29/2014 11:24:42 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: cotton1706

RINOS spending to protect the duopoly they have with the Dims, and as usual putting that principle above any foundational party principle


15 posted on 04/29/2014 11:31:47 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: cotton1706
Many of my friends who hate the tea party have passed around the story on twitter approvingly, accusing the tea party groups of committing fraud, being liars, in it for the money, etc.

Republican "friends" no doubt.

16 posted on 04/29/2014 11:35:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: staytrue
At this stage of the game, teaparty is about attacking other republicans liberals. NRSC is about winning in November maintaining its tenuous grasp on power.

Fixed.

17 posted on 04/29/2014 11:37:19 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: RitaOK

Rita,

I agree with your post and I support the Tea Party/Constitutionalists platform.

However, there are some challenges along the way.

When someone, both reads and looks at the actions and policies of the modern Democrat/liberal/progressive party they are almost always in opposition to our Constitution.

When we read and more importantly see the actions of today’s Establishment Republican Party, they seem to almost always compromise principle for political expediency.

The battle is now between the “Compromising Party” and the “Uncompromising” Tea Party. Unfortunately, many Tea Party candidates, while they are well meaning, they are not ready for “primetime” when it comes to dealing within the insane system that we find ourselves.

There is another problem for the Tea Party that attempts to put an “R” behind them.

Fundamentally, the Tea Party and more importantly, our Constitution is classically Liberal, and would be defined in modern terms as “Libertarian” with conservative leanings. The Tea Party doesn’t fit within the Republican Party. We represent a clear threat to the Republican Party Establishment and instead of adopting the Constitution they are fighting this take over attempt.

Our Constitution is libertarian.

Our Constitution places it’s trust and faith in the inherent conservative nature of the individual.

Democrats deny the existence of this aspect of human nature and have built a massive governmental machine to force individuals into manageable groups. The Republican Party Establishment’s compromising over the years has made them no better than the Democrats.

We need to “unwind” this mess. Either from the inside out, the way we are trying, or from the outside in. Maybe both.

One is going to take a very long time while the other will be an all out Civil War.


18 posted on 04/29/2014 12:08:30 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta
Thank you for your reply, (a fine one). I would have included you in my *comment, had I viewed your own comment prior to mine. I liked what I read in that one, also.

While I am squishy on “modern terms” being used to define or descibe the Constitution, I basically agree zealously with everything else you said. Especially, the required length of time (which is in very short supply) and if I may add, also, a positively required re-education system (which the teachers union and public school system presently own by lock, stock and barrel).

I figured out one thing. Without classical education in America, there will never be a classical understanding of either the Constitution, nor for the limited role of government, as our Founders bled and died to construct and give us.

Without the religious devotion and Christian ethic existing in strong majority among the citizenry, the seeds of moral, political and institutional chaos were left to grow exponentially, regardless of whatever our political preferences and labels are now.

Undoubtedly, the Libertarian view appears to have a better organization support, especially among the population of young adults, and is gaining ground among the disenchanted of both parties for their strength of brand— of solidarity against the failed policies of the socialist Left, and against the limp wristed Republican Establishment, who have posed no threat whatsoever to the rapid advances of socialist/Marxist infiltration into all of our great institutions.

I'm not sure if Libertarians are “classical” enough on other issues and institutions, besides the Constitution. Just sayin’.

19 posted on 04/29/2014 1:59:54 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: bimboeruption
I won't give them money either!

Their accounting isn't clear enough for me plus many of them are about as easy to deal with as those Ron Paul(ones) so I'm not necessarily supporters - anymore!

20 posted on 04/30/2014 10:42:13 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: cotton1706; All

Many....have passed around the story...., accusing the tea party groups of committing fraud, being liars, in it for the money, etc.
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Well, I’ve often wondered; not about the Tea Party but certain “groups”. I get 3 or 4 e-mails daily wanting money for Conservative candidates from the same “groups”.....every day. Now, I do believe that was what Steve Stockman did in his Senate “race” down here in Texas. No TV ads, no mail-outs, no campaign rallies and one campaign office that never answered the phone and never returned calls. He took the money, to the tune of about $400,000, to pay off his 2012 Campaign debt. God only knows what he did with the res.


21 posted on 04/30/2014 8:23:56 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: RWGinger

we vette pretty thoroughly every single candidate
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Well, that speaks well for your Tea Party group. But, how did the likes of Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock and others fall through the cracks? Did anyone know about the law suit against Dr. Greg Brannon before he got Tea Party endorsements in his run for the U.S. Senate seat in North Carolina? Did anyone know that Matt Bevin supports those in KY who promote Cock Fighting, and that he believes that Illegal Mexicans are harder workers than Americans? Did anyone adequately vet Dr. Milton Wolf, who is running in the Senate GOP Primary in Kansas, thoroughly enough to find out that he posted gruesome X-ray images of gunshot fatalities and medical injuries to his Facebook page and participated in online commentary layered with macabre jokes and descriptions of carnage? I’m Tea Party through and through, but a lot of our candidates have sh** for brains.


22 posted on 04/30/2014 8:45:04 PM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: Din Maker

Since TP groups are loosely organized you get a lot of disparity in the way they operate.
I wish as a collective we’d all be more responsible.
Another problem is that without a cohesive organization candidates can ‘ claim” Tea party endorsement without actually having it but there is often times no one to dispute it.
I don’t think all those names actually got real endorsements BUT enough did that shouldn’t have


23 posted on 05/01/2014 6:42:12 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: cotton1706

bkmk


24 posted on 05/01/2014 10:05:39 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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