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Council passes 'Ban the Box' legislation
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-04-28/news/bs-md-ci-council-20140428_1_marian-house-councilman-nick-j-northwest-baltimore ^

Posted on 04/29/2014 9:21:54 AM PDT by MNDude

Edited on 04/29/2014 9:37:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Controversial legislation intended to help ex-convicts find jobs is headed to Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake for her expected signature after the City Council gave the measure final approval Monday.

The "Ban the Box" bill will force Baltimore employers to wait to ask about a job candidate's criminal history until a conditional offer has been extended. The bill passed despite an intense lobbying effort from business leaders, who said they should have the right to vet prospective employees early in the process.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; maryland; nannystate; news; rawlingsblake; sanctuarycity4rape
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To: rjsimmon

“...relegated to the stereo-typical jobs of Harley mechanic?”

My Harley mechanic would be a little offended by that comment.


21 posted on 04/29/2014 10:08:40 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: The_Reader_David

News flash to you — you don’t know what you’re talking about. Requiring a job offer to be made before knowing is NOT CONSERVATIVE. And recidivism happens irrespective of employment status, not least because most ex-cons never had legal employment in the first place.


22 posted on 04/29/2014 10:10:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: beelzepug
My Harley mechanic would be a little offended by that comment.

Mine too... I was going for the Sons of Anarchy, Teller-Morrow angle.

23 posted on 04/29/2014 10:10:30 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

The point of this law is to deny to employers the option of finding out, and I’ll go out on a limb and say that this is all about how those poor ex-cons of color are being denied gainful employment by a bunch of rich racist business owners.


24 posted on 04/29/2014 10:12:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GOPJ

Hey, it worked for the DOJ and POTUS. /s Same method too — deny everyone access to the information needed for proper vetting.


25 posted on 04/29/2014 10:14:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MNDude

Wouldn’t want to be racist...


26 posted on 04/29/2014 10:15:50 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: DTogo

Hey, at least the perp’s name and address would be known, quit complainin’. ;’)


27 posted on 04/29/2014 10:16:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: The_Reader_David

RE: “The notion that once one served one’s sentence, one had “paid one’s debt to society” was one of the boundary markers our ancestors put in place.”

That’s the thing - some times that debt paid was just a pittance.

So should a Level 3 sex offender, who ‘paid his dept’ be allowed to work anywhere?

Keep in mind:
* ‘Anywhere’ includes schools and day cares
* Level 3 is defined as “high risk of repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists”

Sorry, no business should be forced to hire someone who may put their staff, their ‘customers’ (or students) or assets at risk.


28 posted on 04/29/2014 10:16:48 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: SunkenCiv
The point of this law is to deny to employers the option of finding out, and I’ll go out on a limb and say that this is all about how those poor ex-cons of color are being denied gainful employment by a bunch of rich racist business owners.

I would surmise that you are 100% correct. I dislike the very notion of restricting any employer from checking a persons background, but I have often wondered about how punishment continues after the time served.

I would guess that even without a criminal background, many 'people of color' are not being hired simply because they do not respect the employer and are unable to bring anything of value in the way of skills and reliability to the employment table.

29 posted on 04/29/2014 10:21:41 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: The_Reader_David
There are fed laws (MCA of Clinton years) that make it a crime for certain businesses to hire people that have been charged with various drug & drug trafficking crimes.
30 posted on 04/29/2014 10:30:55 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: MNDude

I have two felon machinists in my shop. Stupid things from years ago. But they told me up front without having to ask.

It all comes down to the individual.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 10:44:19 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: rjsimmon

Yeah, I knew that. I was just givin’ ya the business. You and I both know that when you find a good bike mechanic was knows his stuff and is honest he is worth his weight in gold. Ride safe this summer.


32 posted on 04/29/2014 11:06:49 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: beelzepug

was=who


33 posted on 04/29/2014 11:08:58 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: beelzepug
Ride safe this summer

You as well. Cagers always want to kill us... Jealous bastards!

34 posted on 04/29/2014 11:11:55 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: MNDude
Simple solution. If you have the slightest doubt...don't make an offer. Provide an alternative...let prospective employees request the check and have it sent to the employer in a sealed envelope...just as you do with college transcripts. Candidates with good documentation and interviews get an offer.
35 posted on 04/29/2014 11:32:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Grams A

Read new rules.
Move business elsewhere.


36 posted on 04/29/2014 11:54:18 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Better idea. Thanks.


37 posted on 04/29/2014 12:06:01 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: rjsimmon
Should a person who has served their time (incarceration + parole, etc.) be punished for the rest of their natural life without the prospect of a rewarding career?

I had a situation where I really struggled with this very issue. I believe in second chances, believe once you've payed your debt that should settle it. Unfortunately, given the nature of the particular offense and the job for which the individual applied, the liability to our organization was just too great. I wished I could have given him a fresh start, but in all good conscience, I couldn't.

38 posted on 04/29/2014 12:34:48 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: MNDude; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

Gotta make sure the Black Guerilla Family has a shot at job offers when they get out of jail.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


39 posted on 04/29/2014 7:46:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: MNDude; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; ...

The only thing missing is, “It’s for the chilrun.”

Nanny State PING!


40 posted on 04/29/2014 7:47:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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