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After outcry, Hagel orders review of female hairstyle policies
Stars & Stripes ^ | April 29, 2014 | Jon Harper

Posted on 04/30/2014 1:50:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Following an outcry by members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel is considering changing hairstyle regulations that affect female African-American servicemembers.

On Tuesday, Hagel sent a letter to lawmakers announcing that, within 30 days, each of the services will review the definitions of authorized and prohibited hairstyles contained in each of their respective policies and revise any language that might be considered offensive.

Caucus members had complained that a recently updated Army regulation governing troops’ hairstyles was racist and unfairly targeted African-American women.

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Hagel has also ordered the services to conduct a three-month review of their hairstyle policies as they pertain to African-American women. The purpose of the review is “to ensure standards are fair and respectful of our diverse force, while also meeting our military services’ requirements,” Hagel said in the letter, which was obtained by Stars and Stripes.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: hagel; hair; military; secdef
Never mind whether or not said minority hairstyles are suitable for harsh combat conditions...
1 posted on 04/30/2014 1:50:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Racism—what non-white people use to obtain privileges that white people neither desire nor can obtain if they did desire.


2 posted on 04/30/2014 1:59:38 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: Timber Rattler

From civil rights to special rights to special privileges to revamping the militaty to accommodate Black sensitivities regarding “style.”

Is there anyone who did NOT see that coming?

The Black definition of the word “fair” is pretty strange.

Or was “fair” always a smokescreen?


3 posted on 04/30/2014 2:30:18 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Timber Rattler

To be fair...and have equity and not to discriminate....

Crew cut for all service personnel....male or female...

Just think how much money they would save on hair care products...


4 posted on 04/30/2014 2:38:34 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Timber Rattler

A trip through the CS chamber training should be sufficient for illustrating the need for the regulation. Perhaps some of the members of the CBC with the proscribed styles would like to join their military brethren for the exercise??? Naaah, that would be too much like leadership for that whiny crowd.


5 posted on 04/30/2014 2:41:38 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Timber Rattler

High and tights for everybody.
No exceptions.


6 posted on 04/30/2014 2:55:32 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Don't like a policy?
Cry "Racist!", and it'll change in short order.

Of course this works best if you happen to be black.

7 posted on 04/30/2014 2:59:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Timber Rattler

If women are allowed to wear long hair in the military, so should the men.


8 posted on 04/30/2014 3:00:36 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Timber Rattler

I concur. High and tight for all. One would think America’s Secretary for Defense would spend his time focusing on the ability of our armed forces to defend and fight, rather than on haircuts or hair styles. Keep it simple.


9 posted on 04/30/2014 3:01:09 AM PDT by Tudorfly
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To: Timber Rattler
EVERY policy from the Obama administration is designed to splinter, divide the American people.

As America moves further every day into a bickering cacophony of self-interested groups clawing at each other’s throats, the only means to keep order is through the heavy hand of an all powerful government backed up with national police forces.

It is a recipe for dissolution of the republic. It is what the rats work toward, and what the GOP will do nothing to stop.

10 posted on 04/30/2014 3:05:16 AM PDT by Jacquerie (By their oaths, it is the duty of state legislators to invoke Article V.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Cornrows for Combat!


11 posted on 04/30/2014 3:10:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Tudorfly

——One would think America’s Secretary for Defense would spend his time focusing on the ability of our armed forces to defend and fight, rather than on haircuts or hair styles. ——

Well...under this regimen Hagel job is to reform the worlds best military into complete poltical correctness to implement the left social experiments....

As for defending his country....only at the expense of not offending some filthy muzzie dog...


12 posted on 04/30/2014 3:11:20 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Timber Rattler

In harsh combat you don’t want hair that can be grabbed by your enemy and yanked to break your neck.

What are these people thinking? And why are they in charge?


13 posted on 04/30/2014 3:11:58 AM PDT by plangent
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To: Timber Rattler

The world is coming apart at the seams, and this fool is worried about military hair styles??!!


14 posted on 04/30/2014 3:13:16 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Timber Rattler

It really does never change wrt hair in the military.

I remember Elmo’s Navy - long sideburns, relaxed hair length policies. As an Airman at the time, I remember seeing Elmo’s sailors out an about in the civilian world and felt kinda jealous.

The had 75% of the hippie look already down. Shoot, they even had the bell bottomed jeans!


15 posted on 04/30/2014 3:24:32 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: T-Bird45

“A trip through the CS chamber training should be sufficient for illustrating the need for the regulation”

Do they even do this any more?? You know the gas could be dangerous and I am not sure the EPA would allow it!


16 posted on 04/30/2014 3:25:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I thought hair styles were suppose to allow the head to fit inside a helmet...


17 posted on 04/30/2014 3:42:13 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Timber Rattler

What’s next?

Letting the guys wear their pants halfway down?


18 posted on 04/30/2014 3:45:03 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Timber Rattler
“The use of words like ‘unkempt’ and ‘matted’ when referring to traditional hairstyles worn by women of color are offensive and biased."

The nerve of the Army trying to ban the 'Rutger's-do.' Paging Don Imus.

19 posted on 04/30/2014 3:58:15 AM PDT by DaBroasta
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To: Timber Rattler

Who joins the military to remain an individual?


20 posted on 04/30/2014 4:10:20 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Tudorfly

Yeah, and we think we can help someone like the Ukraine. The military has been purged of leaders and we now look to expand hair styles. We in deep doo doo as they say.


21 posted on 04/30/2014 4:31:16 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Timber Rattler

In my military service 4 year stint, I had to shave every day, sometimes twice. The day after I got out, I did not shave, I’ve had a beard ever since.

Back then, if you disagreed with military grooming rules, they would eventually kick you out and good luck then trying to find a job with that on your record.


22 posted on 04/30/2014 4:39:11 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Timber Rattler

Dreadlocks and recreational reefers for the troops. It’s a style.


23 posted on 04/30/2014 4:40:49 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Mouton

Good question - my personal experience dates to 1976 so I took it to Google. It appears the training is still done as there are recent YouTube pages of trainees exiting the chamber, slinging snot and some puking.


24 posted on 04/30/2014 4:43:22 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: plangent

They don’t think and now the inmates are running the madhouse.
Destroy the military and build up Herr Obama SS truppen. I bet all those people will have short haircuts.


25 posted on 04/30/2014 5:05:14 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Timber Rattler

Good to see Hagel dealing with really important military issues...


26 posted on 04/30/2014 5:12:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Jack Hammer

RACISM!

The word opens all doors to special favors and goodies. The only problem is that the word “racism” does not open doors for the white population because only whites can be racists.


27 posted on 04/30/2014 5:15:51 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Jack Hammer

“fair” is how you get from lesser rights to equal rights,
but due to the human condition,
“equal” is never good enough,

and “fair” got us from one point to another,
so let’s keep using it.


28 posted on 04/30/2014 5:17:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: grobdriver

It’s certainly a “magic word”, now, isn’t it?


29 posted on 04/30/2014 5:17:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Timber Rattler

Priorities:

Russia, retake old territory with military force
China, build large navy, develop missile technology
America, Gay service people and black women hair styles.


30 posted on 04/30/2014 6:11:12 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Timber Rattler

And never mind that ROEs in place are getting our troops killed, let’s worry about not offending A-A females in the military....
We are doomed.....


31 posted on 04/30/2014 6:37:17 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

I don’t think they are trying to offend anyone. Most likely this is part of the push to put women in direct combat units in the not to distant future. They always seem to come up with stupid rules prior to a stupid policy.


32 posted on 04/30/2014 7:26:40 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

I agree they are probably not TRYING to offend...but the race patrol team finds it anyway and so, once again, due to having to adhere to the PC Bible, the military is distracted from what they should really be doing...
Letting our troops go after the bad guys......


33 posted on 05/01/2014 4:35:32 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

The black women may have a legitimate gripe though. A lot of the regs are a one size fit all that does not fit all.

I remember when the AF went to a measurement of hips minus neck size to determine body fat. Almost all the black females had to starve themselves to maintain the standards because they tend to have bigger hips/rear ends than the white females. (baby got back and all that)

They had issues with the uniforms because all the uniforms were designed for men at one time. Women complained and they fixed it by designing female specific unis.

The hair standards have always sucked for black women. The short haired look is functional but unattractive out of uniform.


34 posted on 05/01/2014 4:13:09 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

But that’s the point....
How does any of this crap help the military prepare to defend our country?
Totally irrelevant, I say...And I served too.


35 posted on 05/02/2014 6:08:07 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Timber Rattler
After outcry, Hagel orders review of female hairstyle policies

The fear of being labeled a "racist" means that 12% of the population now DICTATE to the rest of us.

36 posted on 05/02/2014 6:12:00 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There have been other complaints, the military puts out these stupid regulations from time to time.

When the USAF went to the bike test instead of running all the fit people were failing or getting low scores. The coach potatoes and smokers were getting really good scores. A lot of fit airman were placed in mandatory physical fitness classes. Stupid and there was an outcry then.

They have went back to running. The reason the went to the bike test was they were losing a few of the coach potatoes every year due to heart attacks during the run.

I can name a ton of such incidents but only the ones where race is an issue makes the headlines. The regs were fine. Women have had their hairstyles thru a number of conflicts without any problems.

Some officer is trying to make a name for him or herself and not using common sense.


37 posted on 05/02/2014 6:51:29 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

As a matter of POLICY, I think that MOST (not all) women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now.

The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. Despite the fact that the US had over 16 million personnel in uniform, and that over 400.000 members of the Armed Forces died in the line of duty, against what was probably the most formidable battlefield enemies that the US has ever fought, who regularly inflicted defeats upon our forces for much of the war NO ONE seriously considered putting women into combat units, even when the need to replace the staggering number of infantry casualties in NW Europe forced the experimentation with racially mixed infantry platoons. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces as we have today.

Even the WW II Soviet example must also consider the 8 MILLION Soviet military dead, and even then the women at the front were largely circumscribed to medical personnel, select few aviation units and anti aircraft artillery. Infantry assault units were all but non existent.

The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintenence of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.

This apparent imperative to place large percentages of women in the Armed Forces is completely unnecessary and impelled by reasons other than those that deal with combat efficiency.. It will not be long before sex/sexual orientation, and gender commissars are appointed at unit level.

The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.

I know that women have played a vital role during guerrilla, partisan warfare and sabatoge/espionage activity. But to deliberately employ them in ground combat units or other units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units is the height of lunacy and madness given the effort required to identify the relative few who could qualify even if we ignore the potential detriments to morale and discipline.


38 posted on 05/06/2014 10:05:19 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

I agree. Years ago they were restricted to medical and support fields. Now they are basically in almost all career fields.

It would be funny if it was not dangerous to see the new training standards for carrying a stretcher. It calls for four persons. This is because two average sized females cannot carry a average sized male.


39 posted on 05/06/2014 6:48:03 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Timber Rattler

Some are more equal than others.


40 posted on 05/09/2014 3:30:24 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: SamAdams76

That’s coming. But first the “men” will be allowed to wear dresses.


41 posted on 05/09/2014 3:31:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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