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Russia now an adversary, NATO official says
CBS ^ | May 1, 2014 | staff

Posted on 05/01/2014 6:41:20 PM PDT by bkopto

After two decades of trying to build a partnership with Russia, the NATO alliance now feels compelled to start treating Moscow as an adversary, the second-ranking official of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization said Thursday.

"Clearly the Russians have declared NATO as an adversary, so we have to begin to view Russia no longer as a partner but as more of an adversary than a partner," said Alexander Vershbow, the deputy secretary-general of NATO.

In a question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, Vershbow said Russia's annexation of Crimea and its apparent manipulation of unrest in eastern Ukraine have fundamentally changed the NATO-Russia relationship.

"In central Europe, clearly we have two different visions of what European security should be like," Vershbow, a former U.S. diplomat and former Pentagon official, said. "We still would defend the sovereignty and freedom of choice of Russia's neighbors, and Russia clearly is trying to re-impose hegemony and limit their sovereignty under the guise of a defense of the Russian world."

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To: bkopto

Wow - I guess there really was a reset.


21 posted on 05/01/2014 8:35:19 PM PDT by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: bkopto

Russia always was/is an adversary. Why would any one think otherwise?

” We will bury you!” - Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev.

They still are following that plan. Never mind that the bear appears friendly. It will arise and devour much meat so to speak.


22 posted on 05/01/2014 8:38:35 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: bkopto

“the 80s are calling, they want their foreign policy back.”


23 posted on 05/01/2014 8:42:17 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: cripplecreek

Most presidents confronted by foreign enemies with war haven’t been more than figureheads making speeches. The real professionals in our military forces administer defense while only pretending to go along with the political correctness demanded by every side in civilian politics.

See lefties Wilson before WWI and Roosevelt before WWII. Wilson’s folks even ran his campaign on keeping the U.S. out of the war. There’s no staying out of wars initiated by foreign adversaries who indulge in expansionism, military buildups and repeated threats against us. They’re bullies.

That’s what bullies do, but there’s no hiding from them in the schoolyard or cheering their wrongful deeds to let them attack only other nations. They want to control the world and won’t stop without being stopped.

Putin has implied threats to nuke our country several times during the buildup of useless nuclear junk by his many flunkies. More recently, Russia is trying to expand and enslave other countries. It’s one of the most corrupt nations in the world.

CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX 2013 (map)
http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

So many folks will try to speak against defense, as many similar people did before the last two world wars. They’ll do so, until the foreign enemy buildups make those enemies proud enough to attack and try to conquer the world again—probably with nukes before long. It won’t make any difference except to make defense of our nation much more difficult and intense in the very near future. Such foreign enemy buildups and expansions happen quickly.


24 posted on 05/01/2014 8:46:11 PM PDT by familyop
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To: cripplecreek
Despite naming the Russians as a potential problem, there’s nothing in Romney’s history that leads me to believe he would handle it much better than Obama let Russia do whatever it wanted.

Fixed that for you.

25 posted on 05/01/2014 9:02:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: goldstategop
Any one who thought Russia was being paranoid about NATO’s expansion - the comments from a top NATO official have confirmed amply for Moscow its not a figment of its imagination. You can bet Russia will resist the further expansion of the Western alliance in a bid to “contain” it.

From your rhetoric, you'd think it was the EU that had annexed a part of Russia.

26 posted on 05/01/2014 9:04:16 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
In retrospect, I'm now glad that Obama won.

If McCain had won, Syria and Egypt would now be run by the Brotherhood, with more Christians being butchered.

And we'd be at war with Russia, a Christian defending country, pro family, anti Sharia, flat tax, etc.

The world now needs the likes of a defensive Russia more than ever, now that we have had our culture stolen.

27 posted on 05/01/2014 9:25:43 PM PDT by duckln
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To: bkopto

28 posted on 05/01/2014 9:45:16 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: bkopto

DUH....
Romney and Palin knew this long ago, but Obama and the media minions laughed at that idea.


29 posted on 05/01/2014 10:19:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: duckln

You did not see the Communist parade in Russia today, did you? The Russian Government sponsored a Communist rally on Red Square!


30 posted on 05/01/2014 11:18:31 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90
not only that:

In S:t Petersburg

source: https://twitter.com/svaboda/status/461784538176585728/photo/1
31 posted on 05/02/2014 12:09:29 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

We can either deal w/ Russia now or we can deal w/ ‘em later. See Hitler at Munich.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 12:26:32 AM PDT by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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33 posted on 05/02/2014 3:09:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: bkopto
"We still would defend the sovereignty and freedom of choice of Russia's neighbors, and Russia clearly is trying to re-impose hegemony and limit their sovereignty under the guise of a defense of the Russian world."

Speaking of sovereignty...when are those European "sovereigns" finally going to stand on their own two feet?

NATO has served its original purpose and the US taxpayer has been subsidizing European security far too long.

34 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:03 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: goldstategop

” Any one who thought Russia was being
paranoid about NATO’s expansion -”

Nonsense. Russia is under no threat of attack, and NATO members are voluntary for their own security interests. Russia has shown a willingness to conquer territory.


35 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:44 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: bkopto

36 posted on 05/02/2014 5:21:37 AM PDT by McGruff (I'ts not the crime it's the coverup they said.)
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To: duckln

“In retrospect, I’m now glad that Obama won.”

“The world now needs the likes of a defensive Russia more than ever, now that we have had our culture stolen.”

I hope you were drinking heavily when you wrote your post.

McCain Palin would have been immensely better for this nation than what we have now.
No conservative should ever defend the resurrection of the Soviet Union. Americans will now die in a war somewhere as result of this.
Reagan broke these b@$tards; now that victory is being thrown away.
This would not have happened under a strong American President.


37 posted on 05/02/2014 5:44:11 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
No conservative should ever defend the resurrection of the Soviet Union

The Soviet Union dissolved 30 years ago, since then it has been a Democracy. They have been having elections just as long. I support that.

Reagan broke these b@$tards

Fine, now as a Democracy they are better off. Too bad he supported the terrorists in Afghan against the Soviets.


38 posted on 05/02/2014 6:44:15 AM PDT by duckln
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To: All

LOL

“Russia is now an adversary”

They always have been, you idiot. They’ve been taking advantage of Western “hope”, for a peaceful co-existence, and abusing a limp wristed Obama who still harbors his own hope for a Marxist USSR.


39 posted on 05/02/2014 7:28:24 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: duckln
“The Soviet Union dissolved 30 years ago, since then it has been a Democracy. They have been having elections just as long. I support that.”

As we are finding out; the Soviet Union still exists in many ways; or is being rebuilt. Putin is a thug with an agenda to re conquer territory. Who knows what his long term goals are. He is an enemy of freedom and the United States.
People need to wake up and realize this is a big deal and will involve us again.

40 posted on 05/02/2014 7:30:40 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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