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UKRAINE: Intercepted Phone Calls Show Putin Called The Shots On European Hostages In Ukraine [AUDIO]
FORBES ^ | 5/04/2014 12:02PM | Paul Roderick Gregory

Posted on 05/05/2014 3:51:25 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

As the Kremlin claims it cannot control separatist forces in east Ukraine, its clear orchestration of the release of kidnapped international observers shows the exact opposite.

Overshadowed by the Ukrainian assault on occupied towns in the Donbass industrial region, and by bloodshed in Odessa, is yesterday’s release of eight international observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) held hostage in Russia’s command and control center of Slovyansk. With Slovyansk under siege and the risk of Russian operatives being captured, Putin probably concluded he needed to get the black mark of the hostage taking of OSCE international observers off the agenda. It is enough that Putin’s local commanders would face murder charges for the well-documented killing of a local pro-Ukrainian politician.

Russia has publicly asserted that the hostage taking was a purely local matter, over which they have no influence or control.

Russia’s lie is exposed by tapped phone calls, obtained by the Ukraine Security Service (SBU), that took place on May 1 and 2 between Colonel Igor Girkin (alias Igor Strelkov), the military commander of the “People’s Republic of Donetsk,” and Putin’s special envoy, Vladimir Lukin.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putin; ukraine
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To: DesertRhino

I think it was after Brennan went there that it was clear the Ukraine Army couldn’t communicate with their equipment....and Anti-Kiev forces could easily pick up their communication...heck they were posting it on twitter!

They really aren’t well trained, even the head guy said the Military wasn’t even close to being battle ready. 20% I believe he had mentioned. So all this heavy fighting going on is coming from “other” sources.

There’s not only Americans there, but Italians and others now. Ukraine can’t fight their own battle by any means without outside military and this has been well known and understood from the get go.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 11:32:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: Rashputin

Okay, thanks for the clarification.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 11:37:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DesertRhino

I am neither young (64) nor a man
(UMCRevMom=United Methodist Clergy Reverend Mom)

Condescension aside, This Forbes article establishes the case extremely well.

Putin is responsible for putting infiltrating Ukraine government over years & “feet on the ground” recently.
You may fine the ‘taped’ phone messages interesting. Especially, this point extremely illuminating: “In their calls, Lukin refers to “verification from the highest levels.” As the President’s special envoy, I imagine this refers to Putin himself. It also appears that Girkin/Strelkov has to make calls to clear new “things” with higher-ups, such as admitting Council of Europe members along with Lukin.”

So, Putin is indited both and then some...


23 posted on 05/06/2014 3:21:37 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: DesertRhino

“. I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t support national socialists doing the EUs bidding in Kiev.”

Maybe you should step back from the Russian propaganda and realize that even Jews support Maidan.


24 posted on 05/06/2014 4:43:35 AM PDT by vladimir998
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