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Sen. Introduces Bill To Test Out Taxing Motorists For Every Mile They Drive (California)
CBS LA ^ | 5/7/14

Posted on 05/07/2014 4:30:57 PM PDT by OneVike

The California Legislature is looking at a voluntary program that would tax motorists for every mile they drive.

KCAL9’s Bobby Kaple reports that Sen. Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, introduced a bill to test out the vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax because the state’s gas tax was no longer bringing in the revenue it used to due to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles.

The program is modeled after ones in Oregon and Washington.

“We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

It’s unknown how much the tax would be, but Oregon currently charges its volunteers 1.5 cents per mile.

“All of those things would be determined. We would let the agency determine that because this would be a voluntary program,” DeSaulnier said.

Southland commuters were not thrilled about the idea of a VMT tax.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bobbykaple; california; concord; kcal9; markdesaulnier; mileage; oregon; payasyougo; sb1077; taxes; userpays; usetax; washington; whatstheproblem
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

F the liberals, the socialists, and the progressives that are gullibe and naieve enough to believe that their government is good and has their beat interests at heart. The government is like a gigantic fat spoiled child that is never satisfied with what it has and always wants more and you have to be the one to bow and sacrifice for them when they have absolutely no respect for you. They just want what they want because you have it and they want it. The Mafia is more honorable by far...


21 posted on 05/07/2014 4:43:57 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: OneVike; martin_fierro

The roads in southeastern Wisconsin are worse than in Puerto Rico. The long cold winter has turned our highways into those of a third world country.

They can kiss the front of my ass if they think I’ll agree to a VMT.


22 posted on 05/07/2014 4:46:25 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: OneVike

Let’s get this right

the gubernut encourages people to drive more fuel efficient cars, and they do

so they can drive as many miles as before but buy fewer gallons of gas,

so, as the public DOES become more thrifty with fuel, as the gubernut wanted people to do,

the gubernut gets less money from taxes on the fuels cars and trucks consume,

so, the public having done a good thing, the gubernut wants to reward everyone for a job well done with more taxes;

that’s why its called the gubernut


23 posted on 05/07/2014 4:48:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: OneVike

We’ve warned what will eventually happen to all of these “sin taxes”, like cigarette taxes, alcohol tax, soda tax, etc. When people curtail their use, the govt has to find some other tax to make up for the lost revenue. Everybody ends up paying it.


24 posted on 05/07/2014 4:54:36 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: GeronL

how can it be voluntary? If you agree, you still pay gas taxes every time you get gas. They really expect people to volunteer to pay this tax?

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it passed as a mandatory tax. But can’t see this work out as a voluntary payment.


25 posted on 05/07/2014 5:13:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: OneVike

I’m sure there will be a waiting list for people wanting to get onto this program. After all, it’s for the children or whales or whatever/s.


26 posted on 05/07/2014 5:14:02 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: OneVike

Another ‘grazing cattle fee’ regulation where government gets money for doing nothing and to control you to boot. Yippee!


27 posted on 05/07/2014 5:16:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Logical me
You must have a liberal mindset.

Not as all. If I don't drive, why should I pay a road tax? I pay for food, and the cost of food reflects all costs. I will pay that. But if I don't drive, why should I pay a road tax? You sound like a communist. Everyone shares the cost of everything.

28 posted on 05/07/2014 5:17:44 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: OneVike

Even Republican supermajority Indiana has advocates of this evil plan:

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lawmaker-mileage-charge-could-replace-state-gas-tax/article_bafebb01-2c29-56b8-8b6b-a351a785a2ff.html


29 posted on 05/07/2014 5:20:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraiaq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: FatherofFive

” If I don’t drive, why should I pay road taxes?”

So the government can spend it on the bus system which uses the roads and doesn’t pay road taxes.
After all, somebody has to pay LOL!


30 posted on 05/07/2014 5:31:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith
So the government can spend it on the bus system

The bus system is a communist idea. Everyone pays for the transportation of a few.

31 posted on 05/07/2014 5:36:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nobody joins and they make it mandatory, isn’t that the usual MO?


32 posted on 05/07/2014 5:36:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

What idiot would volunteer to pay a new tax?


33 posted on 05/07/2014 5:45:32 PM PDT by super7man
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To: FatherofFive

It’s a feudal idea: gives the serfs something to use to serve their lords at the lowest cost to their lords and also increases their dependency on their lords.
Communism being scientific feudalism it is, indeed, a communist and socialist “three-fer”.


34 posted on 05/07/2014 5:47:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: GeronL

They will do it at inspection time. They will calculate your mileage for the year, divide by 12, look at a table and they will add it to your registration fee. Pretty simple really.

To start the program off, they will take mileage since purchase, prorate it to your inspection date and bill you for it. If you don’t pay, they will take it from your taxes.


35 posted on 05/07/2014 5:48:40 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Oops, everyone’s odometer broke


36 posted on 05/07/2014 5:51:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: mrsmith

Communism has a compelling attraction for those who cannot produce


37 posted on 05/07/2014 6:00:11 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: OneVike

“Voluntary”. Yeah right, just like the “voluntary” income tax.

If they didn’t spend most of the gas tax on public transit boondoggles they would have enough to fix the roads. The whole theory of which is supposed to benefit drivers by getting more cars off the roads. Which means less gas tax revenue, so taxes have to be raised on remaining drivers, which means people drive less and buy more fuel efficient cars, which means even less money...


38 posted on 05/07/2014 6:01:07 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: super7man

It might save me a lot of money.

I drive 5K miles a year at most.

The volunteer plans I have heard about include some sort of rebate/refund of your gasoline taxes.

I also love the idea of a Leaf driver paying the same or more in road taxes than a Mustang GT driver.

After all, these hybrids and electrics are just as heavy, if not heavier.

I wouldn’t dismiss the mileage tax idea without a lot of thought.


39 posted on 05/07/2014 6:18:19 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: OneVike
"...whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

Sounds like something that someone who has been hittin' dat potent Colorado High happy smoke would say.

40 posted on 05/07/2014 6:24:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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