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Legendary aircraft carrier USS Saratoga to sail off to scrapyard in 1-cent deal
Fox News.com ^ | May 09, 2014 | By Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:57:38 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

The USS Saratoga — the legendary aircraft carrier that played a key role in the Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam and Gulf wars and made Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi back down — is destined for dismantling after the Navy paid one penny to a Texas firm to recycle the 81,101-ton behemoth.

The once-mighty vessel is the second of three conventionally-powered carriers to set to sail to the scrapyard, following another one-cent deal involving the USS Forrestal in October. ESCO Marine, of Brownsville, will pay to tow, dismantle and recycle the ship, which was decommissioned in 1994 after more than 38 years of service. Efforts to spare the ship failed, as they did with the Forrestal last year.

“[It is] emotional in that we who served on ‘Sara’ feel that our ‘surrogate mother’ is passing from our lives,” Sammy King, secretary of the USS Saratoga Association, told FoxNews.com in an email. “We owe her a lot. We went aboard as ‘snot-nosed kids’ and left as ‘men.’ Some of us are very sad and some are very angry at the decision to scrap her.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 1cent; americaindecline; cubanmissilecrisis; cv60; obamalegacy; scrapvalue; sweetheartdeal; thirdworldpower; unitedstatesnavy; usssaratoga; waste
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To: depenzz

Different Saratoga. This is the one commissioned in 1956


21 posted on 05/09/2014 10:21:05 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: depenzz

My one brother was on the Saratoga during part of the 2nd World war in the South Pacific. He served on the Enterprise also.

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That would have been a different Saratoga. The one that was active during WWII was the first ship of that name. My dad served on her as a machinist’s mate during WWII.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 10:24:33 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: GeronL

Not unusual.
It can be expensive to scrap a ship in the US if one has to follow all the environmental rules, etc. A 1950’s warship like this probably is on the edge of being a Superfund site from the EPA’s point of view. This thing is probably wall to wall asbestos, just to start.
If there were some way to tow this to that scrapyard beach in Pakistan where no rules apply (expensive towing job, that) maybe there would be someone willing to pay for it.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:28:45 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: US Navy Vet

I live in Jacksonville, IIRC some years back there was a push after she was decommed to keep the Sara here and make it a floating museum...........the city turned it’s nose up at the idea. I always thiught that was a BIG mistake.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 10:30:51 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: US Navy Vet

OUTRAGEOUS!!

This ship should be preserved for the future - just like the Olympia, the Constitution, the New Jersey, etc.

That SOB in the Oval Office is such a revolting creature and so are his familiars.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: Red Badger

My worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) was on the Oriskany. He was such a good sailor he had his own room, the Brig.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 10:31:12 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Sara.

My dad served her as an aircraft maintenance chief, on more tours than I can count with certainty. This was in the days of 9 months out, 3 home, smiles. Did my first dependent’s cruise with her, back when she was the largest thing afloat.

I can still see her on the horizon, (coming and going ;) as we watched from the pier at Mayport....Especially the last time, when she sailed out of Jax for the last time... It was amazing all the folks who came out to wave goodbye one more time.

Beautiful ship.

Never will forget her.

Godspeed Sara.
Tatt


27 posted on 05/09/2014 10:37:13 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: ZULU

This is not THE Saratoga from WWII.
That one was sunk in the A-bomb tests at Bikini in 1946.
This one was commissioned in 1956. It was in service with lots of other carriers, most of them since decommissioned, scrapped, or otherwise expended.

Some carriers have been preserved, but I don’t see why this one in particular. The US has scrapped dozens of carriers since WWII.

There are several other carriers from that era on donation hold right now, and up for preservation, maybe. - see status here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_the_United_States_Navy


28 posted on 05/09/2014 10:37:51 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: V_TWIN

Yup.


29 posted on 05/09/2014 10:38:44 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: wayoverthehill

My dad served on the Saratoga when she was bringing the troops home. Then she was blown up with a hydrogen bomb if I remember correctly.


30 posted on 05/09/2014 10:38:53 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: buwaya
"This government is a POS, and has screwed up lots of important things, but this case is not obviously a screwup (unless there was monkey business in the contract awards, etc.) nor is it important (at least not to most people)."

Well, the one-cent price makes me wonder. Is that an approximation of the net difference between (1) the value of the scrap metal and (2) the cost to scrap it?
31 posted on 05/09/2014 10:39:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: liege

“Just” and A-bomb.
Two of them actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads


32 posted on 05/09/2014 10:40:06 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Steve_Seattle

I don’t know.
I suspect that the government is paying someone to do the scrapping, on a separate contract, as the thing is probably considered a floating environmental cleanup problem. A 1-cent price just serves as a legal way to transfer ownership.


33 posted on 05/09/2014 10:42:28 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Mouton
then declare nuke fueled vessels as treats to the oceans

I happen to think that is true, although I'm not sure it's what you meant to say.

34 posted on 05/09/2014 10:43:35 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yea!We need to have room for the next Ford class carrier.The USS Obama.

Now that would make me really sick to see a ship of that name.


35 posted on 05/09/2014 10:44:56 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: CodeToad

That Saratoga in at the bottom of Bikini Atoll.


36 posted on 05/09/2014 10:45:00 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Only if you noted I misspelled threat.


37 posted on 05/09/2014 10:48:48 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Haiku Guy

I doubt the Indians want a hull from 1956.
And thats what it would be, as by this time literally everything inside it would have to be replaced, rebuilt, etc.
Better new construction.


38 posted on 05/09/2014 10:49:41 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: US Navy Vet
All part of this POS "Government's" plan to dismantle the GREATEST Navy to EVER set Sail! G*D DAMN ALL OF THEM!

She's not even nuclear. How would saving her serve any purpose?
39 posted on 05/09/2014 10:55:30 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: US Navy Vet

How many 1956 cars are still on the road? (Outside of Cuba) The fact that there are very few left makes those remaining worth something.

If you were to find one sitting in a farm field somewhere, it would probably not be worth restoring to “like new” condition. If you were to restore it, the project would probably cost more than it would be worth when you were done. The same thing applies to old military machines.

If you were to spend $50M to restore this ship to like new condition, would you have a viable military weapon? There’s only so much demand for old ships to put on display.


40 posted on 05/09/2014 11:20:03 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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