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“A friend-of-the-court brief submitted in the case stated: ‘The central question now before this court is whether the federal judiciary will stand idly by while Congress and the president establish the legal framework for the establishment of a police state and the subjugation of the American citizenry through the threat of indefinite military arrest and detention, without the right to counsel, the right to confront one’s accusers, or the right to trial.’

“Eighty-five of 100 senators voted in favor of the new version of the NDAA, which had already been quietly passed by the House of Representatives. [Disgustingly, Montana's only U.S. House member, Republican Steve Daines, who purports himself to be a staunch conservative, voted for the indefinite detention provision of the NDAA, as did Montana's two Democrat Senators Max Baucus and Jon Tester. How did your congressman and senators vote? In my opinion, this is a monumentally-important vote; and a vote granting this unconstitutional power to the military and federal police agencies is inexcusable and demonstrates how both Democrats and Republicans will unite together to dismantle the constitutional protections of the American people in the name of "national security."]

1 posted on 05/09/2014 1:24:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

was there a ruling and did the Pirate Roberts vote for this fascist leap?


2 posted on 05/09/2014 1:29:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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3 posted on 05/09/2014 1:30:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jim Robinson

The courts are supposed to be the institution that protects citizens against governmant abuses.


5 posted on 05/09/2014 1:37:04 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Jim Robinson

     

It started like this in the '30s, too.

Anyone thinking the above hyperbolic isn't paying enough attention.

/.02

7 posted on 05/09/2014 1:39:59 PM PDT by tomkat
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SCOTUS, behaving like the Nazi Reich Court.
8 posted on 05/09/2014 1:41:35 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Since we can't look to the Courts for protection anymore, may I suggest that everyone become proficient at protecting themselves.

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9 posted on 05/09/2014 1:42:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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There was hardly a peep here about NADA, in fact most were advocates. You know who you are. That’s where this started.

Please, please...don’t fain consternation at this. It’s insulting.


18 posted on 05/09/2014 1:56:44 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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24 posted on 05/09/2014 2:14:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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I’ve always liked Pastor Baldwin, author of this piece. He thinks, writes, and speaks clearly. He continues to lead even when things don’t quickly turns. In that regard, he is a Jeremiah.

The American police state was seen clearly last month when America was suddenly shown that the Bureau of Land Management had it’s own army. It was a wake up call that even reached the major media. They were soon forced to back down, either by their handlers or by powers beyond that level. The public explanation they gave for losing focus on federal agencies with their own armies was ‘racism’. We know, even if Clive Bundy had done something wrong, that there is no connection between the behavior of one citizen and the BLM having an army (along with scores of other departments and agencies having their own armies.)

Why? Because we now have seen what “a standing army” is that the Founders were so strongly against. They are troops paid by the central government to point guns at you, your children, and your friends if you don’t comply with the Federal government’s every whim, whether illegal or not.

It seems important to keep this on the front burner now that so many of the people are now aware of SWAT teams pointing guns and destroying lives. It seems important to hear about every over zealous arrest, every quick-to-kill shot, and every power hungry grab of property, money, or resources.

And now we also need to be aware of every suspicious arrest as Pastor Baldwin points out. He is right. In this he is a Jeremiah who should be heeded.


27 posted on 05/09/2014 2:24:17 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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*Sigh*

Unless things make a sharp 180 degree turn and soon, war is coming on us FAST. Either war or absolute totalitarianism.

And I hate both possibilities.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 2:46:05 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Jim Robinson

This is utterly unconstitutional, and the justices know it.


35 posted on 05/09/2014 3:26:35 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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It is normal that one cannot sue unless one has been damaged---a judge cannot rule on a law until that law has been exercised, i.e., someone has actually been detained under this particular law. However, it becomes a Catch-22 if one is detained without access to a court.
44 posted on 05/09/2014 8:07:18 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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