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Texas officer who shot armed 93-year-old fired
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 05-10-2014 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/10/2014 4:20:01 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

HEARNE, Texas (AP) — Officials in a small Central Texas town voted Saturday to fire a police officer who shot and killed an armed 93-year-old woman during a confrontation at her home.

The city council's unanimous vote to dismiss Officer Stephen Stem came after a meeting that lasted less than 30 minutes, KBTX-TV reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 93yearold; abuseofpower; cop; lawenforcement; shooting; texas
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To: FreeperCell

NO!

http://benswann.com/video-family-releases-video-of-man-being-killed-by-fort-bend-officer/


81 posted on 05/10/2014 7:09:35 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: bike800
-- I don't expect to be called names by people that don't know me, ... --

Hahahahah. Hey, this is the internet. The volume of bad assumptions, some of them personal, approaches infinite.

As for cops, I think they are like airlines. The strength of the "us vs. them" barrier runs locale by locale.

Airline employees in some cities are downright helpful, and in others (same airline) they are downright hostile.

82 posted on 05/10/2014 7:09:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: piytar

Here is a THUG for you!

http://benswann.com/video-family-releases-video-of-man-being-killed-by-fort-bend-officer/


83 posted on 05/10/2014 7:13:05 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: PaulCruz2016

So when’s this “officer” going to be arrested and charged with MURDER?


84 posted on 05/10/2014 7:14:16 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: logi_cal869
I have a couple thoughts on reading your remarks.

Employment is not a right, and sometime people get fired, even though they don't deserve to be fired. Happens pretty often, I think, even though it's not "normal" or "justified."

The son or nephew, or whatever it was that called the cops, perhaps he didn't understand the gravity of making that call. Calling the cops to quiet a domestic disturbance is a life changing pivot point for all involved. The cops don;t just come around and "calm things down." The call to the cops is step one in being taken into the legal system, judges, jails, lawyers, liars, etc. Guaranteed, heavy hand. Not to say don't make the call, just understand the force you are invoking.

85 posted on 05/10/2014 7:18:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Lazamataz; bike800
The current crop of cops are bad news, and have made me become extremely anti-police. They dress like they are in Mogadishu, act like they are in Afghanistan, and behave like they are on Operation Desert Storm.

You know Laz, I've seen much the same thing. The cops that have been around awhile are still ok in my book. I've been pulled over by guys like bike800 and as long as you treat them with respect and don't act like they're stupid ("No officer, I don't know how fast I was going") you'll get respect back and treated well. Last time I got pulled over by an experienced street cop I pulled away without a ticket by simply being respectful.

Then there was the asshole Palos Heights IL cop who pulled me over and instantly started giving me attitude. There was no way I was leaving that scene without a ticket and to my surprise (and despite my being respectful the entire time) I found myself surrounded by four squad's in a parking lot before the whole thing was over. The asshole cop who happened to be the watch sargeant (George L. Yott, Palos Hts. PD) told one of the other officers to write me a ticket for passing in a "no passing zone". (Forget the fact that was a bullshit ticket for a moment.)

Older street cop comes up to my drivers side window and APOLOGIZES for what an asshole his watch sargeant was (his words..) and explains to me that he has to write the ticket because he was ordered to. Watch Sargeant was maybe early 30's, older street cop my age (early 50's, guessing.)

The problem I have with ALOT of the younger cops is that they literally have NO SOCIAL skills and no problem solving skills whatsoever. Combine the two, and we have stories like the one at the top of this thread.

Most troubling for me, is my 17 year old son who wants to get into law enforcement as his career. (Sigh, I'm really trying to talk him out of it.)

As for me, every time I pass by the Palos Heights Police Department now, I get my revenge on watch sargeant George L. Yott. Anyone listening on their input freqency hears how I feel about what an asshole he is. (Never piss off a geek with electronics experience. We DO get even.)

86 posted on 05/10/2014 7:27:37 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Eagles6

Was he not the guy on the show law and order or am I thinking of someone else?


87 posted on 05/10/2014 7:39:52 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Cboldt
Not to say don't make the call, just understand the force you are invoking.

That is a powerful statement that, unfortunately, many simply just don't grasp... To clarify, I wasn't specifically referring to his firing. Rather, metaphorically referring to his 'lynching'.

88 posted on 05/10/2014 7:48:27 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: saleman

Key word: “Armed”

I’m not worried that he lost his job, as you put it.

I’m concerned this is another ‘Zimmerman-type’ lynching.

I’m also sorta waiting for the Puppet to say ‘she could have been my g-ma’...

I’m not dwelling on this. Assuming there’s a Grand Jury, I guess ‘we’ll see what we’ll see’...


89 posted on 05/10/2014 8:03:16 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: babygene

It SHOULD be the cop’s job to handle ANY situation in such a way as to not leave someone dead. If they can’t do that, their not suited for the job.


Perhaps the police were taught this was how to handle an armed person who didn’t drop their gun he/she was firing.


90 posted on 05/10/2014 8:16:21 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: usconservative; Lazamataz; bike800
I've been pulled over by guys like bike800 and as long as you treat them with respect and don't act like they're stupid ("No officer, I don't know how fast I was going") you'll get respect back and treated well.

I hear ya.

When I was questioned in a parking lot as to what weapon I was carrying on my person, the morning the new iPhone was to come out, they treated me with the utmost respect and kindness.
I replied with a smile: "Springfield XDm forty-five."
He actually said:
"SWEET!"

There ARE good law enforcement personnel out there.

I guarantee it.
91 posted on 05/10/2014 8:17:37 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: COBOL2Java

And you’re able to get inside her head how?


She fired a gun at a cop. Imo, that makes her crazy.


92 posted on 05/10/2014 8:17:56 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RandallFlagg
I'm licensed for conceal/carry here in Illinois and have to say, I'm not sure I'm going to do it. I know the Illinois State Police have been going around the state training local police departments how to interact with conceal/carry folks -- but I've heard too many stories and too many comments from some in the law enforcement community here that literally cannot wait for one of us with conceal/carry permits to become the first "test case."

IMO, they're gunning for us.

93 posted on 05/10/2014 8:23:20 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cboldt

Ok I will say it. Don’t make the call.


94 posted on 05/10/2014 8:27:36 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: RginTN
She fired a gun at a cop. Imo, that makes her crazy.

And before that she threatened her nephew with the gun.

95 posted on 05/10/2014 8:29:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: RginTN

“Perhaps the police were taught this was how to handle an armed person who didn’t drop their gun he/she was firing.”

Ten percent of the people in this country cant hear. 20% can’t speak English...

Are we just going to write these people off?


96 posted on 05/10/2014 8:31:31 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: usconservative

I completely understand this.
In my opinion...

Keep on doing what you’re doing.
If something happens, obey the LEO no matter what.
RETAIN your RIGHT to keep silent!
Get involved with the Armed Citizen Legal Defense Network (http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/)
And hope it goes to trial by jury.

While all of the bureaucratic bullshit goes forward, stick to your guns, and stick to the law.


97 posted on 05/10/2014 8:39:23 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: Cboldt

Sure you say that now, but just wait until Mickie Dee’s gets your happy meal order wrong.

911 on speed dial


98 posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:45 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: babygene

Ten percent of the people in this country cant hear. 20% can’t speak English...

Are we just going to write these people off?


Ask the police dept what the police are taught when in training. I’m not in law enforcement and can’t answer your question.


99 posted on 05/10/2014 8:48:52 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

The LEO had one too then. He escalated the situation by threatening to shoot people. Then the woman fired her weapon, albeit into the ground. He had the right to resort to killing the lady since she was firing a weapon. However, this may have never came to be, if wasn’t threatening to shoot people.


100 posted on 05/10/2014 10:09:50 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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