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Sen. Rand Paul: GOP's voter ID push "completely crazy"
CBS News ^ | May 10, 2014, 2:03 PM | Jake Miller

Posted on 05/12/2014 7:33:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., condemned his party's push for voter identification laws as "completely crazy" Friday, saying it's "wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it's offending people."

The comments, delivered during an interview with The New York Times, make Paul the most prominent member of the GOP to speak out against a crusade that has energized the Republican base but alienated some of the young and minority voters the party hopes to court.

Notably, Paul disputed the political wisdom behind voter ID laws, but he did not question their substance or merit. He's previously said it is reasonable for states to require voters to present identification before casting a ballot.

The courts have put voter ID laws on hold in three states so far, with a federal court saying the rules in Texas imposed "unforgiving burdens" on... Thirty states have instituted voter ID requirements in recent years, though several laws have recently been struck down by federal and state courts.

Republicans, who have been the driving force behind the new laws, say they're protecting the integrity of elections by preventing voter fraud. Democrats, though, say there's no evidence of widespread voter impersonation or other forms of fraud. Many spy a more sinister motive, accusing Republicans of trying to depress turnout among students, African-Americans and other groups that lean Democratic and are more likely to lack a photo ID.

Paul, who has acknowledged that he is weighing a presidential bid in 2016, has urged his party to expand its appeal, and he has reached out in recent months to groups that don't traditionally align with the GOP.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; electionfraud; paulnuts; paultards; tedcruz; votefraud; voterfraud; wod
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1 posted on 05/12/2014 7:33:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Here lately, it seems ol Rand has just gone off to the left. Puzzled by some of his comments.
2 posted on 05/12/2014 7:35:23 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SoConPubbie

So are you, Rand.

After all, we don’t need no stinkin’ IDs...to get beer, to fly on planes, to get into my workplace, to drive a car.

Shove it up your very little Obamahole.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 7:35:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SoConPubbie
because it's offending people

Yeah, we can't have that now can we.

4 posted on 05/12/2014 7:35:54 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: SoConPubbie
It's crazy to require photo ID for anything then, right Randy?
5 posted on 05/12/2014 7:37:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: SoConPubbie

It offends me that we require ID to keep people from stealing our money, but we don’t want ID to keep people from stealing our government.


6 posted on 05/12/2014 7:37:40 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Jagdgewehr

>>because it’s offending people
Yeah, we can’t have that now can we.<<

Principles, shrinciples, they are meaningless. The important thing is POPULARITY!


7 posted on 05/12/2014 7:37:43 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand, Your nonsensical position regarding voter ID has deleted you from from my list of presidential contenders.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:20 AM PDT by mcshot (..."And this too shall end.")
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To: SoConPubbie

So disappointing. Why not just sign the country over to Mexico if we’re so hell-bent on becoming it.


9 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:25 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: servantboy777

Why does he think that acquiescing to accepting illegal voting will help? Does he think those he allows to vote illegally will vote R?

Undocumented voting - an act of love.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:35 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: SoConPubbie

when someone is wrong I’ll offend them as much and as often as I can!!


11 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: SoConPubbie

Colorado allows voting in a county that “you might like to move to”. That is how they got the votes to legalize drugs and a green worshiper like Chickenpooper.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:50 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SoConPubbie

13 posted on 05/12/2014 7:40:02 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Paul is always good for a laugh. That’s about all he’s good for though.


14 posted on 05/12/2014 7:40:48 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: servantboy777

The satire just writes itself these days.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 7:41:23 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: SoConPubbie

Take a hike traitor.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 7:41:30 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SoConPubbie
There is plenty of evidence of voter fraud.
Republicans are not trying to prevent any group from voting, only that the individuals who vote are eligible and only vote once.
That is the law. Let's enforce it.
If there was widespread voter fraud conducted by Republicans, libs would quickly demand two forms of photo ID for every vote.

17 posted on 05/12/2014 7:41:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SoConPubbie

Just when you thought libertarians aren’t totally insane, they disappoint you.


18 posted on 05/12/2014 7:42:26 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: freedumb2003

Apparently, that’s the age in which we live. The only sin is offending people.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: BitWielder1

Paul is done before he got started. Good.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 7:43:38 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul is taking this “See I’m different and open” theme a bit too far. Voter fraud is a huge problem and has tipped elections. Also his silly attempts to patronize Democrats is doomed. They are laughing at him the way they laughed at Bush when he tried to befriend the vile Ted Kennedy.


21 posted on 05/12/2014 7:43:40 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SoConPubbie

His fundraisers keep calling me, and next time I am going to give them some constructive feedback. Rand is way too unreliable to back. I am glad he’s a Senator...the alternative was a crony-drone, but he needs to stick to his day job.


22 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:15 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SoConPubbie

“wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people.”

We don’t want to ‘offend’ rapists, thieves or murderers either, right? So those laws should change too!


23 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:16 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: mcshot

R. Paul was off my list quite some time ago.

He’s now off the list, buried, and the ground is salted.

He’s just as bad as his dear ol’ dad.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SoConPubbie

If backing down on sound policy when its advocacy offends people is really what ought to be done, we might as well just have a one party state run by the perpetually offended.

The correct way to push voter ID is to have a standard talking point in which when accused of racism or preventing the poor or elderly from voting, the standard response will be to demand the record of opposition to the requirement of government-issued photo ID to purchase pseudoephedrine or of the requirement for government-issued photo ID to use air transportation on the grounds that such requirements were racist or prevented the poor or elderly from getting good decongestants or using air transportation. There was none.

The second talking point is to observe that South Africa has a photo ID requirement for voting, which doesn’t seem to be any impediment to a multiracial democracy, along with an indelible ink mark to prevent repeat voting, and ask why when the great success in multiracial democracy (yes, yes, I know, it isn’t really, but we’re putting down a leftist talking point here, we we concede an irrelevant point) does these things, somehow instituting the same in the U.S. would be “racist”?


25 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:28 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Don’t push for vote integrity because it offends people?


26 posted on 05/12/2014 7:45:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoConPubbie

I do not know what Rand has been drinking lately. IMO, Voter ID requirements are essential. Rand may be asking for delays in States from implementing the requirement until He has been able to buy the votes he needs.
I have to show ID to buy decongestant med and to purchase beer at our local Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant even though I am over 60 yrs. As a taxpayer, I do not mind tax dollars going to help “legal citizens” get IDs if they need the help.


27 posted on 05/12/2014 7:46:42 AM PDT by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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To: servantboy777

If this is accurately reported, Rand Paul has lost his mind. Most people support voter ID, as anyone sane should, and I don’t care if some leftist or illegal is “offended”.


28 posted on 05/12/2014 7:46:57 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SoConPubbie

Let us never forget that Obama sat under the teachings of Rev. Wright and that Ron Paul is Rand’s father.


29 posted on 05/12/2014 7:47:07 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: SoConPubbie

WTH is wrong with those who are supposedly on “our side”? Nice fodder for the enemy, Rand. This country is at a crisis point and you open your big fat trap in pandering to the losers.

If you think that will get you elected, thing again. You are losing supporters faster than you’ll ever gain them. The PC Crowd won’t vote you, never have, never will. Stop the insanity.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 7:48:59 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: achilles2000

Right. The insane thing is when you think a rising star politician is talking sense and espousing conservative values, they ultimately shoot off into left field with boneheaded comments that leave one scratching their head.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 7:49:05 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SoConPubbie
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., condemned his party's push for voter identification laws as "completely crazy" Friday, saying it's "wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it's offending people."

What a shame: Rand Paul is morphing into a little Juan McLame, Linda Graham puppet. McConnell must be pulling his strings. I had hopes for him, but no more.

32 posted on 05/12/2014 7:49:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: SoConPubbie

If only drugs were legal, more people would use them and after their brains were fried this would make sense.

Poor Rand Paul is just another victim of the war on drugs. The illegality of drugs and the resulting less use of them is going to cost him the nomination.


33 posted on 05/12/2014 7:49:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ZULU
Just when you thought libertarians aren’t totally insane, they disappoint you.

The libertarians I personally know are for open borders. So, not a surprise to me, actually. When I argue that we must control/defend our national borders, they howl "statist!"

34 posted on 05/12/2014 7:50:03 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Projection is a liberal trait. STFU Ru Paul.


35 posted on 05/12/2014 7:50:42 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: servantboy777

Why? This is him.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 7:51:33 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: SoConPubbie

Voter ID, that be rayciss. My god to think that one word is helping turn our nation to sh*t.


37 posted on 05/12/2014 7:52:07 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I guess this means that Paul OPPOSES McConnell’s Voter ID bill in the Senate..


38 posted on 05/12/2014 7:52:43 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Mich Patriot

Not all illegals are Mexicans.
There is an est of one million islamics in the country, that is a real concern.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 7:52:58 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: SoConPubbie
"....because it's offending people."

But your lack of a common-sense approach to addressing the issue of voter fraud, OFFENDS ME. Now, whatcha gonna do?

40 posted on 05/12/2014 7:54:00 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: SoConPubbie

The people who are offended will vote Democrat anyway; voter ID will just help keep them from voting multiple times. Rand is brain-dead on this one.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 7:55:12 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: svcw

“Not all illegals are Mexicans.
There is an est of one million islamics in the country, that is a real concern.”
********************************************************************

Have you been to a Costco lately? There are a lot more than one million illegal alien Muslims in the country now.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 7:56:48 AM PDT by House Atreides
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Yes I understand that and agree with the Islamic threat. The numbers aren’t even close though, we are mostly overrun by Mexican illegals.


43 posted on 05/12/2014 7:57:21 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: SoConPubbie

This triangulation to the liberal side of the spectrum is not going to end well for Rand.

Adios to both Santorum (on the minimum wage issue) and Rand on voter ID in less than a week for the 2016 GOP nomination.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: servantboy777

Shut up, Paul. You sound as though you are auditioning to be Hillary’s Veep.


45 posted on 05/12/2014 7:58:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 56newblog
Not requiring IDs before voting when government requires it for buying tobacco, alcohol, medications, airplane tickets, or withdrawing or depositing large sums of cash at banks is insane. The whole ID requirement came about because of the very old Democrat trick of ballot box stuffing, dating back to the 19th Century. The Democrats were corrupt long before they became leftist.
46 posted on 05/12/2014 7:58:33 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SoConPubbie

Well I guess that crosses Rand off my presidential wish list. Strike 1 was his embrace of McConnell, Strike 2 his apparent embrace of amnesty (though that is really enough), now Strike 3.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 7:59:21 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Daddy’s little boy is all grown up.....


48 posted on 05/12/2014 7:59:33 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: allendale

Rand Paul is taking this “See I’m different and open” theme a bit too far.

Great point. Classic libertarians—you’ve almost got me going your way such as on foreign policy then.....this (plus his embrace of amnesty).


49 posted on 05/12/2014 8:00:53 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: SoConPubbie; All
Sen. Rand Paul (Himself-GOP/e), has gone to the "Dark Side"..just a Southern Opportunist.

50 posted on 05/12/2014 8:01:40 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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