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Film on '85 MOVE disaster comes to TV
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 05/12/2014 | Ellen Gray

Posted on 05/12/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

JASON OSDER was a fifth-grader living just outside Philadelphia on May 13, 1985, the day police firebombed the MOVE house on Osage Avenue in West Philadelphia, igniting a fire in which 11 people, including five children, died, and the surrounding neighborhood was destroyed.

He never forgot.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: move
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1 posted on 05/12/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen; Albion Wilde; Tribune7; TAdams8591; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; wireman; Mr. Binnacle; ...
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2 posted on 05/12/2014 4:04:32 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen

They “firebombed” it? No bias there.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 4:06:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

...it’ll be interesting to see how they blame Dubya Bush for it...


4 posted on 05/12/2014 4:06:24 PM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: tet68

Well...

You see...

They DID essentially firebomb it.


5 posted on 05/12/2014 4:08:31 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I was living in West Philly at the time, just down the street from all the action.

It’s not my recollection that the police actually firebombed the house, but it’s been a while and I can’t recall exact details.

However, I seem to recall that there was a lot of shooting, and somehow the fire got started as a result of that.

I could be wrong.


6 posted on 05/12/2014 4:08:49 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kid Shelleen

There is something on Netflix about it. I didn’t watch it.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 4:09:15 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: tet68

“They “firebombed” it? No bias there.”

I lived there then, and yes they did. They dropped a bomb from a helicopter that resulted in a fire. Isn’t that “firebombed”?

And nobody was held accountable from what I remember.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 4:09:34 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Sorry... Shortly after that Mayor Good (sp) got shot. I remember the headlines... “Good Shot!”


9 posted on 05/12/2014 4:12:14 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

They dropped a bomb from a helicopter that resulted in a fire.

So, they were bombed and a fire started.
That’s what I said, they did not drop an incendiary
device for the purpose of starting a fire.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 4:12:37 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: babygene

Goode was never shot. Some cops were shot, though.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 4:12:58 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

“Goode was never shot. Some cops were shot, though.”

Actually he was... Do a Google search. It wasn’t during the raid it was afterward.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 4:14:49 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Jack Hammer

The police dropped two bombs on the target house because there looked to be a hardened bunker on the top floor. They firebombed the house.


13 posted on 05/12/2014 4:16:17 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Eclipse, the sequel to Bright Horizons is out! Get it now!)
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To: tet68

Yes. They. Did.


14 posted on 05/12/2014 4:17:24 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: tet68

Correct. That’s how I remember it.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 4:19:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: tet68
An incendiary device was dropped on the roof to try to break a siege situation. The device apparently penetrated the roof and burned down not only the building with the people inside, but (iirc) most of the rest of the block.

When Waco was happening (Branch Davidians at Mt. Carmel) the MOVE incident was brought up quite a bit.

16 posted on 05/12/2014 4:20:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: babygene
Isn’t that “firebombed”?
As I recall the MOVE people poured gasoline on their roof. The police used a "bomb" as an "entrance device" because the MOVE people barricaded themselves in their house.

And nobody was held accountable from what I remember.
The mayor was re-elected. I think the police chief lost a civil suite but basically everyone skated. The real tragedy was that the kids could have been picked up in the local park but the policed waited until they were in the house before they began the assault.
The entire block was destroyed because the fire department was ordered to stand down..
17 posted on 05/12/2014 4:20:43 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: IrishBrigade

His daddy was VP during that period, 1985. The last GREAT president, Ronald Reagan was in office.


18 posted on 05/12/2014 4:22:08 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: tet68

They did.
I was appalled that police were dropping bombs on residential neighborhoods. The next shoe to drop was the police stopping all firemen from putting out the fires causing destruction of the entire block.
That was settled in a civil suit against Philadelphia long ago.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 4:22:36 PM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: babygene

I just ran a search, and I can’t find anything about Goode taking a bullet. His grand-nephew, yes, not but Goode himself.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 4:24:37 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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