St. Andrews Cross
Posted on 05/13/2014 8:43:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
EDINBURGH, May 12 (RIA Novosti), Mark Hirst – Western leaders do not know what they are doing by backing neo-Nazis who overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, Scottish Socialist Party (SSP) leader Colin Fox has told RIA Novosti.
“There is a history there, in that part of the world, where the Nazis invaded Ukraine and some people collaborated with them and other people, rather more nobly, resisted the Nazis,” Fox said.
“You are seeing the remnants and the explosion of that today, a deep seated hatred,” Fox told RIA Novosti.
“I think the so-called West has been backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine for some time and then they toppled the democratically elected president of Ukraine,” added Fox, who is also a board member of the pro-independence Yes Scotland campaign.
“Democracy is meant to be lauded all around the world,” Fox said.
“The West don’t know what they are doing. They are stoking dynamite in Ukraine.”
Fox was joined in his condemnation of US and EU intervention in Ukraine by Councillor Maggie Chapman, the co-leader of the Scottish Green Party.“What is happening in Ukraine is very concerning,” Chapman told RIA Novosti.
Chapman blames the rise of the far-right – not just in Ukraine, but across Europe – on wealthy elites who, she says, are forcing through deeply unpopular austerity measures whilst their own personal fortunes are increasing.
“When we have the economic crisis that we have at the moment those sort of far-right solutions that target the vulnerable, the poor and the ordinary person are backed by the wealthy, because the structures and institutions of the state exist to serve the wealthy few,” Chapman told RIA Novosti.
Meanwhile Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson, who is accountable to UK Prime Minister David Cameron, refused to condemn the right-wing coup leaders who seized power in Ukraine in February. Instead Davidson quoted Ukraine’s parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk in accusing Russia of “aggression.”
Davidson also sought to “highlight” Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond’s “complimentary comments about President Putin,” but pointedly refused to criticize the Ukrainian authorities.
Asked by RIA Novosti whether the Conservatives supported the anti-Semitic, pro-rape views expressed by some of the unelected officials in Kiev, a spokesman for Davidson said he had nothing further to add.
There are some Socialists who have a Marxist/Leninist orientation and support Cuba, Venezuela, and now apparently Putin’s moves in the Ukraine. Other Socialists are more oriented to views fairly popular in Scandinavian and other northern European countries. Perhaps as different as tea party and RHINO
Good post Joe. Now’s time to rethink your position.
“I think the so-called West has been backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine for some time and then they toppled the democratically elected president of Ukraine,” added Fox”
Duh....
Everybody but the brain-dead (and the Maidan Trolls) has realized this...
Haggis eating people that kept Clinton from being convicted with their darned “Scottish Law”.
Scottish Socialist complains about Ukrainian Socialists. UH....
The point of a very good article:
“Thus began the politics of fascism and anti-fascism, where Moscow was the defender of all that was good, and its critics were fascists. This very effective pose, of course, did not preclude an actual Soviet alliance with the actual Nazis in 1939. Given today’s return of Russian propaganda to anti-fascism, this is an important point to remember: The whole grand moral Manichaeism was meant to serve the state, and as such did not limit it in any way. The embrace of anti-fascism as a rhetorical strategy is quite different from opposing actual fascists.”
Scottish Socialist Party (SSP) leader Colin Fox is a so-called socialist political leader who often serves as an agit-prop apologist for the Soviet Union and pro-communist Russians. His socialist organization/s seek to separate Scotland from the United Kingdom as much to join Scotland to the international socialist-communist movement as it is to support the anti-British political movement.
Interesting post/thread BUMP!
U.S. Senator John McCain, center, speaks as Democratic senator from the state of Connecticut, Chris Murphy, second left, and Opposition leader Oleh Tyahnybok, right, stand around him during a Pro-European Union rally in Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, Sunday, Dec. 15, 2013.
Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under "communism" and "fascism." As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, "the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."It more and more appears that there may be relatively few "good guys" involved anywhere in the power struggle in Ukraine. Regarding the quote above, this may be a case of the more things change, the more they stay the same.
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.
-- F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom
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