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Exclusive: We'll never give her back! Biological family of 9-year-old girl ripped from foster parent
Daily Mail ^ | 16 May 2014 | By Will Payne and Sara Malm

Posted on 05/16/2014 10:18:00 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister

"The biological family of a little girl taken from her foster parents and returned to her jailbird father have branded her adoptive mom and dad, ‘selfish’ for fighting to get her back and vowed never to give her up again.

Sonya, aged nine, had been in the care of Kim and David Hodgin, from Dickson, Tennessee for more than seven years, but she was recently handed over to ex-con John McCaul in Omaha, Nebraska.

The Hodgin family have released a heart-breaking phone conversation, revealing Sonya’s desperate pleas, begging to be reunited with them."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: adoption; adoptive; children; convict; dad; family; fosterfamily; mom; nebraska; parents
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1 posted on 05/16/2014 10:18:01 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

Why didn’t the foster parents adopt the child? Would have prevented this.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 10:23:24 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: CorporateStepsister

Cases like this make me glad I’m not a judge.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 10:28:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: PapaNew

My concern wouldn’t be whether the father was in jail, as a reason to adopt the kid out, but whether the biological family had the means to care for the child.

I don’t want to live in a society where we rip kids out of families because they aren’t quite perfect.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 10:28:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: PapaNew

Who knows why; it’s such a mess in this country.


5 posted on 05/16/2014 10:32:58 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Jonty30
I don’t want to live in a society where we rip kids out of families because they aren’t quite perfect.

Agreed.

6 posted on 05/16/2014 10:33:52 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jonty30

” but whether the biological family had the means to care for the child.”

That should almost always be one of the deciding factors in a custody battle. The parent who works and pays the majority of the bills should be the one with primary custody.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 10:33:54 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: PapaNew

In full agreement too; I cannot imagine the chaos that would cause.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 10:34:19 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: PapaNew

Did you even glance at the story? They did adopt her.


9 posted on 05/16/2014 10:39:51 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: CorporateStepsister

“after McCaul pleaded guilty to transporting firearms”

Well, that certainly proves he would be a crappy father... /s


10 posted on 05/16/2014 10:44:39 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: PapaNew

Read the article. The foster parents did adopt the child.

The father’s rights were terminated since he had been sentenced for more than 10 years and the child was under 8 (TN law). And the mother waived her rights to the child.

The child’s paternal grandmother wanted custody, I don’t know why they didn’t give her to her.

But at some point the father’s sentence got commuted to 8 years, and he never waived his rights to the kid. He won in appeals court on the grounds that the court didn’t follow due process in the adoption process.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 10:45:13 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

That poor girl will be living in a home where the mother will resent her being there. The mother obviously didn’t want her, so chances are the mother will indeed be abusive.


12 posted on 05/16/2014 10:50:42 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: babygene

I wonder what could possibly have gone on that he could get convicted on something like that. I mean, he’s shipping guns? This is somehow illegal?


13 posted on 05/16/2014 10:51:43 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: babygene
"“after McCaul pleaded guilty to transporting firearms”

Sounds like it was just one firearm that belonged to the woman that was in his car. But then he gave advice on how to rob a store and also got busted for armed robbery even thought he didn't participate in the actual robbery.

14 posted on 05/16/2014 10:51:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Shimmer1

“Did you even glance at the story? They did adopt her.”

The way I read it they did not... Because he contested giving up his parental rights.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 10:52:53 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Shimmer1
From the article:

The family adopted her in 2008, but a Tennessee appeals court overturned that after McCaul was released from prison.

Sounds like the father has a case for reclaiming his daughter.

16 posted on 05/16/2014 10:55:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
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To: CorporateStepsister

According to those who study this stuff, one forms their basic schema of the World at age 10.

It is to bad that this judge did not consider this hypothesis.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 10:57:29 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: DannyTN

“Sounds like it was just one firearm that belonged to the woman that was in his car. But then he gave advice on how to rob a store and also got busted for armed robbery even thought he didn’t participate in the actual robbery.”

Sounds like a trumped up charge and a plea bargain. But I don’t know the facts...


18 posted on 05/16/2014 11:01:05 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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The court usually appoints a lawyer to represent the child. And the court usually takes into consideration what is best for the child. I don’t know if the court did that or not.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:35 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Graewoulf

“According to those who study this stuff, one forms their basic schema of the World at age 10.”

Seriously?

Now this kid is going to get ripped out of the world she’s accepted as normal and into an entirely foreign environment.


20 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:47 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: DannyTN

No, I could be a fair judge in these “hard” cases. It’s the American people who can’t see the ramifications of the policies they enact.


21 posted on 05/16/2014 11:40:40 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It's inevitable: Kentuckians are incapable of saying "No" to McC!)
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To: DannyTN

Yes, it is strange that child protection did not place the child with family members, especially the paternal grandmother, in the first place.

In returning the girl back to her biological father, one would think the court should have at least set up a transitional period.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 11:49:13 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: PapaNew

they did adopt her, the court overturned it


23 posted on 05/17/2014 2:25:05 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CorporateStepsister

no, the one who has time to care for her is most likely to have custody


24 posted on 05/17/2014 2:26:01 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: babygene

yeah he is an armed robber


25 posted on 05/17/2014 2:26:32 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CorporateStepsister

As opposed to the parent who has actually had primary care of the child?


26 posted on 05/17/2014 3:29:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jonty30

The government supports millions of families who don’t have the means to take care of their kids.


27 posted on 05/17/2014 3:34:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CorporateStepsister
The family adopted her in 2008, but a Tennessee appeals court overturned that after McCaul was released from prison . . . In 2009, McCaul won an appeal claiming he did not voluntarily give up his rights and the court did not follow due process in the adoption proceedings.

This did not come out of the blue, in fact it was a year after the improper adoption, and the foster/adoptive parents had time to make this possibility easier for the girl. I'd need to know the details before I could be sure, but I'm not impressed with the foster/adoptive parents. The firearms charge doesn't bother me at all, and there is no clear evidence that he had not turned his life around. It's his daughter, and if the decision were in my hands I'd probably make that the deciding factor.

28 posted on 05/17/2014 4:15:14 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I know. one family, then a different family, then the other family again. Who cares if it makes the poor child dizzy, scared, insecure... right?!


29 posted on 05/17/2014 6:22:54 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: CorporateStepsister
The parent who works and pays the majority of the bills should be the one with primary custody.

That standard is too arbitrary. Many adults voluntarily give up career to care for their children as an agreement within their marriage, only to have the breadwinner later hook up with another person and then try to take the children away -- "change partners and dance" -- as if the marriage and childcare agreement never existed. Yet children do so much better if at least one parent can focus on their development instead of shuttling them off to a series of paid "caregivers".

The fact is, God hates divorce. He also advises against premarital sex. That way, people don't just get involved and then try to decide if they are the right partners to go the distance with each other. But that's the modern way. Grown people with no morals think they can have it all -- uncommitted sex, personal advancement, preferences and whims, with no sacrifice. Then they hit a bump in the road and start ripping up their children's lives and breaking their hearts, permanently.

Just no.

30 posted on 05/17/2014 6:35:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Shimmer1

So, it takes a village?


31 posted on 05/17/2014 6:53:01 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
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To: Shimmer1
I did glance at it but I obviously missed that.

It's a sad story. Someone told me they had to quit the State Youth Authority in disgust over these kinds of injustices and abuses.

Unless the feds are mucked up in it, the people of a state have direct power to deal with, correct, and/or overturn wrongful state programs. IMO, the best laws and government are the least laws and government. But it’s up to the people of each state to decide that.

The people of our great country need to wake up out of their death-sleep and assert their rights and freedoms as owners of their own destinies and shake off federal AND state governmental abuse.

32 posted on 05/17/2014 7:57:32 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Michael.SF.
This is what happens when children are treated as property.

If my math is correct, she was three when placed with the foster parents. So the American judicial system says it is "just" to rip a 9-year-old child from the only family she has ever known -- in her eyes, her mom and dad -- and return her to a convicted felon who she doesn't know.

To me, this is an unspeakably cruel thing to do to a child ... unless, of course, one holds blood above family and considers her the "property" of the felon.

33 posted on 05/17/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: PapaNew

They did adopt her. The adoption was overturned when the dad-— who never consented to the adoption — got his prison sentence was commuted.


34 posted on 05/17/2014 8:33:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9)
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I glanced at the story but missed that.

It's a sad story. Someone told me they had to quit the State Youth Authority in disgust over these kinds of injustices and abuses.

Unless the feds are mucked up in it, the people of a state have direct power to deal with, correct, and/or overturn wrongful state programs. IMO, the best laws and government are the least laws and government. But it’s up to the people of each state to decide that.

The people of our great country need to wake up out of their death-sleep and assert their rights and freedoms as owners of their own destinies and shake off federal AND state governmental abuse.

35 posted on 05/17/2014 8:38:48 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Albion Wilde

“only to have the breadwinner later hook up with another person and then try to take the children away — “change partners and dance” — as if the marriage and childcare agreement never existed.”

In fact, I think if a spouse commits adultery, that should be a custody breaker right there; how on earth can a parent who puts the life of their spouse in danger (mistresses/lovers of married people have been notorious for being the murderer of the wife/husband of their lovers) and have custody yanked and also, have visitations limited.

Adultery has been one of the top reasons that people get killed; the wife or husband fools around, the lover ends up killing the spouse of their lover. Like for example, Carolyn Warmus murdered the wife of her lover, hoping to become the next spouse.

As for this mess, I hope the kid finds some kind of peace and someone should be listening to what the kid wants, not what the moron judge wants.


36 posted on 05/17/2014 12:37:22 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: PapaNew

and once again, the tyranny of good intentions by the government henchmen.......


37 posted on 05/17/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Michael.SF.

When did I say anything vaguely like that??


38 posted on 05/17/2014 3:04:42 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: babygene

You read it wrong BabyGene. They did.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 3:05:38 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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“You read it wrong BabyGene. They did.”

However, the adoption was flawed... So it’s the same thing.

It’s “what’s best for the kid” what a lot of people seem to think is important. It’s not. The parental right should trump the child’s right every time. If it were what’s best for the kid, then virtually any kid could be taken from the parents because another family could give it more toys at Christmas.

It is really the parental bond with the child that is the glue that holds society together. Not the other way around. There is no real bond on the side of the child.


40 posted on 05/17/2014 3:29:47 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The poor child.


41 posted on 05/17/2014 3:33:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CorporateStepsister
In fact, I think if a spouse commits adultery, that should be a custody breaker right there; how on earth can a parent who puts the life of their spouse in danger (mistresses/lovers of married people have been notorious for being the murderer of the wife/husband of their lovers) and have custody yanked and also, have visitations limited.

I agree with you completely; however the courts have veered far left since the 60s, even OJ Simpson got custody of his kids away from their grandparents in spite of being convicted in civil court of wrongful death (killing their mother), after the travesty of his criminal trial.

Many judges also have a double standard -- a divorcing husband has "needs", so it's ok if he sleeps with another woman he's not married to in front of his kids, even before the divorce is final; but if a woman dates, she can lose custody, even if she was not the adulterer. Thank you, "no-fault" divorce, which has done nothing but remove all justice from marriage-breaking. There is no universal standard, and results are all over the map when it comes to custody, or any other part of divorce.

It is ironic, given that one of the rallying cries of the feminist movement was "biology is NOT destiny" when the feminists wanted fathers to take a more active role so they could go to work outside the home -- but now the courts favor any kind of nasty biological parent over any upstanding adoptive parent. Biology seems to trump every other consideration. Disgraceful.

42 posted on 05/17/2014 4:07:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: babygene

It was not flawed, did you read the article at all? It was because he was sentenced to more than 10 years then that was changed. Not the adoption that was flawed.

Although of course I agree with the rest of what you say.


43 posted on 05/17/2014 4:09:26 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: CorporateStepsister
how on earth can a parent who puts the life of their spouse in danger (mistresses/lovers of married people have been notorious for being the murderer of the wife/husband of their lovers) ... have custody

Statistically, the worst category of child abusers is mommy's boyfriend.

44 posted on 05/17/2014 4:13:07 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: CorporateStepsister

the child did not belong to the foster parents. Stupid to think a child that is not legally free “belongs” to you.


45 posted on 05/17/2014 4:15:34 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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The parental right should trump the child’s right every time. ... It is really the parental bond with the child that is the glue that holds society together. Not the other way around. There is no real bond on the side of the child.

That's because our evil socialist government has elevated single parenthood over married family. Marriage was the glue that held Western society together for its first 1,950 years.

46 posted on 05/17/2014 4:17:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

“but now the courts favor any kind of nasty biological parent over any upstanding adoptive parent”

It’s important that it be that way... Overall, there is no substitute for the natural parent. Even if they pick their nose and eat peanut butter out of the jar.


47 posted on 05/17/2014 4:19:31 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Chickensoup

She was adopted in 2006.


48 posted on 05/17/2014 4:20:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Or Mommy, if Mommy decides she wants a new life minus the spud.


49 posted on 05/17/2014 4:21:38 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Albion Wilde

“That’s because our evil socialist government has elevated single parenthood over married family. Marriage was the glue that held Western society together for its first 1,950 years.”

That’s not the reason. Unconditional love does not exist outside of the love of a parent for a child.


50 posted on 05/17/2014 4:23:42 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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