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5 Aggravating Ways Grassroots Conservatives Screw Themselves
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2014 | John Hawkins

Posted on 05/17/2014 5:11:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Theophilus

“Have more babies, lots more. Raise them in the fear and admonition of the Lord.”

The purpose of the school system is to sabotage the upbringing of your child so that they turn out to be liberals.


21 posted on 05/17/2014 6:09:37 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: RKBA Democrat

Couple of things to add here.

1. We fight to the death to vote for the most conservative candidate in the primaries and then take ourr ball and go home if that candidate loses. We did it in 2008 and we did it in 2012 and if history serves me right we will do it again in 2016.

Why do we do it and who gets hurt? If we win the senate, people like Cruz and Lee can produce bills that will have to be taken up by the majority in the senate. Not giving them a voice hurts RINO’s because it takes away what little credibility they have. With people like Lee and Cruz in the minority, their voice can be heard but their proposed bills would never see the light of day. In the majority, they are a force to be reckoned with.

It’s easier to take over the party once we have control of it. Being on the losing side does nothing. A couple of Tea Party candidates? A couple? Crap, we should be running minimum 50 candidates a cycle and that doesn’t include local elections.

2. We play by the rules because that is what our savior believes in. March a conventional army into the jungle and see what happens. We lose because we are afraid to go into the weeds and take on the left at their game. We praise Reagan but forget what Reagan did. He beat the Soviets by bankrupting them. And he did it without firing a shot.

Using an example of our strengths would be Chik FilA. That’s where we are our strongest. Going after companies. Going after institutions of higher learning, going after the “establishment” is where we excel. That’s how we beat them in 1776. look at what happened only this week with the brother on HGTV. We went ape$hit on Sun Trust and they changed their tune.

Y’all forgot something. We won our independence because we are the true revolutionaries, the best in the history of mankind. Look at everything Sarah Palin has done. She is a true revolutionary. Same with Cruz and Lee. Thing is we need to get people like that on the inside where they can effect change. If it means fighting for my life to get a revolutionary into congress, but failing that getting a party candidate in, we need the (R) candidate in if for nothing else as a placeholder.

We know what it’s like being in the minority and our opponent isn’t going to let up. We know what they want. We “must” take back the majority to free up our revolutionaries to do what they do best. Taking back America. And if means going into the jungle and playing the opponents game, so be it.

Take it for whatever it is worth. I hate the establishment with a passion. I tell myself every day that I hope the Graham’s, McCain’s and McConnell’s of the world would just vanish and die. The only ones that can do that are the revolutionaries. And they need to be in the majority to have the best chance because once they are on the inside, they can do the job given to them by “We the People.”


22 posted on 05/17/2014 6:43:45 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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To: Kaslin
5) We refuse to challenge liberal control of cultural institutions

Not just that, but those right-of-center fail to challenge liberals on their positions, statements or allegations.

If the right-of-center would challenge to Liberal to produce facts or proof of statements they make, for example, the responses would be as loud as Hillary Clinton listing all of her accomplishments as SoS -- in other words, zero, none, nada, because Libs pull things out of the air and many have no factual bases.
23 posted on 05/17/2014 6:50:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: EQAndyBuzz
then take ourr ball and go home if that candidate loses.

Don't confuse not voting for a pro-abortion, anti-gun candidate for 'taking our ball and going home'.

If the GOP runs liberal candidates, conservatives won't vote for them.

/johnny

24 posted on 05/17/2014 6:56:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kaslin

I’d say #5 - the culture war - is probably the most significant failure of conservatives. Like the recent Mozilla kerfuffle, we all whine about how Mozilla didn’t give that guy who got fired a break, but where is the conservative alternative to these tech companies? What, there are no conservative techs out there that can create a safe haven (with financial support from us famous whiners?) Aren’t we always saying to liberals that if they don’t like a conservative this-or-that they should leave us along and create their own version that they do like? There are hypocrites on both sides. Looks like movie makers are breaking out - finally, but we’ve got a long way to go.


25 posted on 05/17/2014 6:58:49 AM PDT by MaggiesPitchfork
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To: Kaslin

bikini pics = entertainment

He’s very wrong on this point. This is anti-women and women make up a majority of the electorate. Liberals could populate their ads and committees with the most beautiful girls in the world, most models and actresses are libs.
They don’t do it because the visuals are wrong.
Libs purposely put frumpy ordinary looking women around themselves. You know women who look like the vast majority of women whose votes they’re after. Conservative pols need to pay attention to how they interact with women.

I completely agree with his last point. Quit supplying money to liberals and sacrificing kids to their schools. Too many conservatives mindlessly serve up a constant supply of lib ideas to their children and then wonder what happened when they turn out to be libs.


26 posted on 05/17/2014 7:01:07 AM PDT by Varda
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To: central_va

We’re not reaching out to people who disagree with us


Reaching out should be nothing more than articulating conservative principles, and inviting all to join the success bandwagon.

With blacks, tell them they have a choice: Dependency and desperation, or self-sufficiency and success.


27 posted on 05/17/2014 7:01:48 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
... voting for the most conservative candidate who's viable in a race ...

A Sneaky Snake response.

Many candidates, including many Dems, run to the right and govern to the left. FauxConservatives. They talk the talk during the election cycle and run away from the conservative positions as fast as they can if they win.

Heck, listen to Mark Levin's analysis of Hillary Clinton's speech yesterday. He thinks Hillary is already trying to position herself as the centrist candidate, to the right of potential Republican challengers. Her hubby did that quite effectively.

==

The hard part is separating the fauxconservatives from the real conservatives. Too many, even on FR, jump on the first bandwagon of a wannabe who says something they like. They fail to investigate further.

In 2008, for example, FR jumped on the Thompson bandwagon but failed to do simple research that revealed Thompson not only supported Campaign Finance Reform, but he chaired the committee that wrote that bill, which was initially called McCain-Feingold-Thompson.

Too many 'project' what they want their candidate to be, rather that what their candidate actually is. The bandwagoning has already started for some of the 2016 wannabes.
28 posted on 05/17/2014 7:01:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JRandomFreeper

Fair enough. But you are going litmus test. So, how come our conservatives haven’t openly proposed that if you do not meet this criteria, we will not vote for you, period?

If you want a litmus test, then openly declare the litmus test and let the candidates fight. That’s my point.

I would take it one step further. I would go with a “I will only serve two terms” litmus test. If they don’t sign onto it, they are not getting my vote. Think how the rats will scuff at that, while America seeing the destruction will welcome it with open arms.

Forget conventional. Think revolutionary. We need that Mel Gibson in “The Patriot.”


29 posted on 05/17/2014 7:10:21 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I've openly declared my tests for candidates.

Why the party doesn't use the platform as a test before supporting a candidate, I don't know. I'm not a Republican.

But then again, the GOP leadership wants to keep open primaries. They aren't interested in conservatism.

/johnny

30 posted on 05/17/2014 7:13:17 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Politics is the art of the possible.

It is ok, even prudent to dream, but only actions yields results. Running from the battle is a losing proposition no matter how pure the idealism


31 posted on 05/17/2014 7:37:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Kaslin

Levin Rule, period.


32 posted on 05/17/2014 7:39:08 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: bert
It's not possible to make America more conservative by voting for liberal republicans. Voting for liberal republicans only makes America more liberal.

If you vote for liberals, you are a liberal.

Even if that liberal is a republican.

/johnny

33 posted on 05/17/2014 7:39:23 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: icwhatudo
Why does this guy keep saying "we" when he says stuff like this?

2) We’ve gotten lazy about [using government for] making people's lives better:

34 posted on 05/17/2014 7:39:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: JRandomFreeper
A platform = bubba bait.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 7:45:05 AM PDT by DManA
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To: EQAndyBuzz; KC_Lion

Conservatives are not in the majority of the US population. If you look at the political attitudes of the population at large, you’ll find that mitt was being optimistic in saying its 47%.

I’m all for for the good fight. I’m even for a good fight where we’re losing. I’m not for a battle that has already been lost. Conservatives are dominant in maybe a handful of states. Otherwise, we’re spread too thin over too many states to have any meaningful impact over time. It’s really a sort of conservative diaspora. Elections are merely reflecting the reality that already exists.

You can challenge that reality in two ways: try to convince those that don’t agree with us over a large territory of the error of their ways or try to concentrate your numbers in a smaller territory and become dominant over that smaller territory.

We’ve been trying the first strategy over a number of years. And what we have to show for it is a uniparty and the reality of a culture and politics that is further left than anything the socialists would have dreamed possible in 1980. The other alternative hasn’t been tried in recent days, but has been reasonably successful in the past, although usually more for religious rather than political reasons. Examples include the pilgrims and Mormons in the US, and the Jews more recently in Israel.

Frankly, I’m tired of trying to convince socialists that they’re wrong. I just want to let them live their lives as they see fit in the gulag of their dreams. While conversely, I want to be around people that I can more or less agree with in freedom and liberty.


36 posted on 05/17/2014 7:45:28 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hey, I don’t disagree. If I was a RINO and no one was forcing me to truly change my views, why would I? Especially when I am in the minority and I have to go along to get along and get crumbs tossed at me in exchange for being non disruptive of the majorities agenda.

That changes being in the majority. Majority rules and after Harry Reid’s 51 vote nuke, it is open season.


37 posted on 05/17/2014 8:24:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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To: RKBA Democrat

We don’t have to convince socialists they are wrong. Too narrow an approach. We need to convince America why we are the greatest nation in the history of mankind and we will not let this nation be taken over by the left.


38 posted on 05/17/2014 8:36:46 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Gen.Blather
The purpose of the school system is to sabotage the upbringing of your child so that they turn out to be liberals.

Amen. The government school system is socialist by definition, essence and mission. It is poisoning the world.

39 posted on 05/17/2014 8:58:20 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: bert

The article made 3 points that don’t say anything.
“We can tell you why taxes need to be low, explain the importance of states’ rights, and give a good defense of peace through strength”.

Conservatives don’t WIN [notice I did not waste time with how they lose] because conservatives don’t make their case in what they intend to legislate if elected and how this will improve the country. Slogans and negatives is as convincing as they go. Where’s the Beef?


40 posted on 05/17/2014 8:59:34 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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