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Operation Chastise: The Dambusters raid
RCAF ^ | 16 May 2014 | Dave O'Malley

Posted on 05/18/2014 12:59:26 AM PDT by Rummyfan

In the years since the night of May 16-17, 1943 – the night of Operation Chastise – the events that transpired on that moonlit spring night have been made into feature films, documentaries, novels, non-fiction books, magazine articles, dramatic paintings, computer games, marches and comic books. It was a stunning attack deep inside Germany on targets long thought to be unassailable.

On that dark night, lit only by the moon, 133 very young men of 617 Squadron took off in 19 specially-modified Avro Lancaster bombers, formed up and flew extremely low over the English Channel across the Dutch coast.

Having trained for months to deliver a very special weapon, the young men were headed for a date with destiny. The aircraft were to fly low, beneath radar coverage, navigate deep into Germany, locate and attack a series of massive dams on tributaries of the Ruhr River. Behind each of these dams – the Möhne, the Sorpe, the Eder and the Ennepe – were massive reservoirs of water that, it was hoped, would flood factory sites downstream and bring much of Germany's industrial production to a standstill.

(Excerpt) Read more at rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dambustersraid; germany; operationchastise; unitedkingdom; worldwareleven
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To: SPI-Man
C-46s still flying in Alaska.
21 posted on 05/18/2014 7:47:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: BenLurkin
Borderline war crime.

Please elaborate

22 posted on 05/18/2014 8:01:29 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: SPI-Man

The C-46 had a lot more in it that could go wrong than the C-47.

Whatever became of that C-46 that landed in the desert where the crew stood off the sheriff at gunpoint and then they took off for Mexico and were never seen again?


23 posted on 05/18/2014 8:38:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: SPI-Man

Yes, two different companies (Curtis vs. Douglas).....one can’t help but think the Douglas designers took a cue from Curtis, though. Yet the B-29 designers went back to that characteristic ballistic nose.


24 posted on 05/18/2014 8:47:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BwanaNdege

Destruction of civilian infrastructure is a war crime.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 9:06:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: elcid1970
The B&W movie “The Dambusters” is still the classic account of the raid on the Ruhr dams. The movie is done in the British matter-of-fact, low key acting that characterized their 1950s movies.

The development of Dr. Barnes Wallis’ “bouncing bomb” is fully covered and the how and why behind its use by No. 617 Squadron is accurately described and shown. The success of the Ruhr dams raid was a tribute to Wing Commander Guy Gibson's ability and charisma.

Wing Commander Guy Gibson had a black lab that he'd named the non-PC N-word and that would not translate well for today's audiences. The same day Gibson flew his mission against the dams was the day he lost his dog (hit by a car).

After winning his Victoria Cross for the raid on the Ruhr dams, Gibson continued as commander of No. 617 Squadron until he was reassigned (eventually) to 5 Group of Bomber Command. No. 617 Squadron became the specialist squadron for testing Dr. Barnes Wallis’ later bombs: the 12,000 lb. “Tall Boy” and 22,000 lb. “Earthquake” bombs.

Sadly, Guy Gibson did not survive the war. His Mosquito from 5 Group was shot down over Germany on 19 September 1944.

26 posted on 05/18/2014 9:54:43 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: BenLurkin
Destruction of civilian infrastructure is a war crime.

Since when? Munitions factories included? Shipyards?

War is one Nation against another. Thankfully, most of that aggression is directed against their respective military. Too often the politicians are all too eager to send young men to die when there is no personal danger to the politician.

The great thing about nuclear weapons is that finally the politicians were in as great a danger as the military. THAT made them stop and think a bit!

27 posted on 05/18/2014 10:44:56 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: BenLurkin

Like we did in Iraq?


28 posted on 05/18/2014 10:46:48 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: BwanaNdege

Hey, don’t get mad at me. I don’t make the rules.


29 posted on 05/18/2014 12:05:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: jjotto

Most infamously in Serbia.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 12:05:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: MasterGunner01
Sadly, Guy Gibson did not survive the war. His Mosquito from 5 Group was shot down over Germany on 19 September 1944.

As it happens every member of his crew died in action during the course of the war.

31 posted on 05/18/2014 12:08:13 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Rummyfan
Okay, but what was the dog's name?


32 posted on 05/18/2014 12:14:18 PM PDT by x
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To: x

The name of Group Leader Gibson’s dog cannot be uttered due to political correctness.

True fact: sadly, his dog was run over & killed the day before the mission. Gibson ordered that the dog be buried at exactly midnight the night of the raid, saying, “We’ll both be going into the ground at the same time”.


33 posted on 05/18/2014 12:29:00 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Lower Deck
The butcher's bill was even more grisly (from Wikipedia):

“Bomber Command crews also suffered an extremely high casualty rate: 55,573 killed out of a total of 125,000 aircrew (a 44.4% death rate), a further 8,403 were wounded in action and 9,838 became prisoners of war. This covered all Bomber Command operations including tactical support for ground operations and mining of sea lanes.

A Bomber Command crew member had a worse chance of survival than an infantry officer in World War I; more people were killed serving in Bomber Command than in the entire Blitz, or in the bombings of Hamburg or Dresden. By comparison, the US Eighth Air Force, which flew daylight raids over Europe had 350,000 aircrew during the war and suffered 26,000 killed and 23,000 POWs.

Of the RAF Bomber Command personnel killed during the war, 72% were British, 18% were Canadian, 7% were Australian and 3% were New Zealanders.

Taking the example of 100 airmen:
>55 killed on operations or died as result of wounds
>3 wounded on operations or active service
>12 taken prisoner of war (some wounded)
>2 shot down and evaded capture
>27 survived an operational tour"

34 posted on 05/18/2014 7:36:47 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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