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Rep. Bridenstine: Why Does USDA Need Submachine Guns?
Newsmax ^ | 23 May 2014 | By Cathy Burke

Posted on 05/24/2014 11:55:46 AM PDT by kingattax

Following the Department of Agriculture's May 7 solicitation for submachine guns with 30-round magazine clips, Rep. Jim Bridenstine is demanding an explanation.

"The fear of my constituents is that the USDA is expanding outside of its intended mission," the Oklahoma Republican wrote the agency on Wednesday.

According to AmmoLand Shooting Sports News, the timing of the USDA request for the weaponry is suspect, coming "just one month after the [Cliven] Bundy embarrassment."

"It seems that the USDA, which oversees America’s vast tracks of forested land, may be preparing itself in the event some cowboys want their heads of cattle to munch government-owned grass," the website stated.

Bundy gained national attention in April during an armed standoff in Nevada over cattle grazing rights.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; usda
instead of asking the USDA "why do you need submachine guns?", how about some of these guys in congress grow a set and tell the USDA "YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM !" ?
1 posted on 05/24/2014 11:55:46 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

They need the machine guns for the same reason they need the freight cars and camps.

Part of Konig Barry’s fundamental tranformation of America - into a police state that would make Stalin and Hitler envious.


2 posted on 05/24/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: kingattax

You build a ground swell better this way ... :-) ...

Jim Bridenstine is my representative and I was one of those who voted him into office. I’m glad to have him around!


3 posted on 05/24/2014 11:59:55 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Westbrook

Well ... it wouldn’t make Stalin and Hitler happy knowing that the citizens are just as well armed ... :-) ...

It’s currently a stalemate.


4 posted on 05/24/2014 12:01:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: kingattax

Doesn’t the Department of Education have a swat team too?


5 posted on 05/24/2014 12:01:44 PM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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6 posted on 05/24/2014 12:04:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for helping him get elected. I’m moving into his district and can’t wait to get there.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 12:06:17 PM PDT by excalibur21
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To: Star Traveler

> It’s currently a stalemate.

At the current rate Barry is arming the alphabet agencies, and the rate they are buyin ammunition, they will have the people outgunned soon, if not outmanned.

The only question remaining is, “Will the U.S. military stand by and let them do it?”

Barry is very busy stuffing the military command with ideologues loyal to the cause, so it’s not likely the military will intervene. Once they get rid of the Christians and Oathkeepers, the military might even participate.

The Congress and Senate have done NOTHING AT ALL to hinder or stop the breathtaking militarization of regulatory agencies.

The people will certainly be outgunned, but they won’t be outmanned if they retain their resolve.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 12:07:14 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: kingattax

He asks a very good question. Something strange is going on with Comrade Obummer administration. Doe he plan on taking over the government in 2016 when is term is up?


9 posted on 05/24/2014 12:08:08 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: kingattax
Every badge carrying chicken inspector needs a submachine gun.
TWB
10 posted on 05/24/2014 12:13:54 PM PDT by TWhiteBear
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To: kingattax
For more details see Germany 1933.
11 posted on 05/24/2014 12:17:12 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Westbrook
The people will certainly be outgunned, but they won’t be outmanned if they retain their resolve.

Just look at the [lack of] enthusiasm of Ukrainian military when they are sent to kill their own people for political reasons. Desertions abound.

It will be worse in professional armed forces; older adults will not be as obedient to criminal orders of their superiors as a 18 y/o man. The army can fight citizens only when there are only a few of those citizens, and they are demonized, and when the soldiers think that the law is on their side.

12 posted on 05/24/2014 12:20:06 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Star Traveler

“Jim Bridenstine is my representative and I was one of those who voted him into office. I’m glad to have him around!”

You’re right, Bridenstine is excellent. Thanks for sending him to Mordor on the Potomac. We need about 300 more like him in the House.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 12:25:15 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: kingattax

Seems fairly obvious to me. The different government agencies are preparing to go to war against each other while fighting over the crumbs that are left after the economic destruction of the US. What else could it be ? They surely cannot take on the American people. They would need 50 million Chinese troops to even have a chance to pull that off.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 12:30:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Greysard

The Egyptians and the Ukraines didn’t fire on their own people. I don’t put that faith in Obama’s swat team wannabes!


15 posted on 05/24/2014 12:32:18 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Westbrook

Obama wants a ‘Civilian National Security Force’ that’s as powerful and well-funded as the military. And rather than recruit from sources outside of the Federal government, just arm the reliable government union members that are already on government payrolls.

And there is none of that nasty ‘Soldier’s Oath’ stuff, either. Might get in the way of firing upon other US citizens. The current version of the oath:

‘I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.’

If not bound by this oath, then the armed representative of the Federal government may fire upon ‘domestic or foreign’ individuals without ever having to have them declared ‘enemy’, or following the Constitution.

‘We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.’

And if this does not make your blood run cold, you have no blood in you.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 12:36:39 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: kingattax
Rep. Bridenstine: Why Does USDA Need Submachine Guns?

Why does the Capitol Police Force need automatic weapons?

17 posted on 05/24/2014 12:44:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: kingattax

During his coronation, the Kenyan bragged he was going to create his own “civilian” army. He just didn’t tell us that he was creating it to use against US!


18 posted on 05/24/2014 12:45:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: kingattax
Yet one more issue Republicans could be trumpeting as part of their effort to retake The Senate and make gains in The House.
19 posted on 05/24/2014 12:52:48 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Westbrook

>>The people will certainly be outgunned,<<

Please clarify your definition of outgunned. Do you mean heavier weapons or fully automatic or artillery, just what do you mean by that term?


20 posted on 05/24/2014 12:53:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: kingattax

none of the agencies buying these will actually keep them.

they are using budgeted money from whatever alphabet agency to buy guns for organizing for action, dhs, and whatever other brownshirt groups they’re intending to arm.

these agencies are just funding mechanisms. they are “straw purchaser agencies”. and i coined that one before anyone else i am aware of.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 12:57:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Star Traveler

There are far fewer of them.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 1:02:15 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Secret Agent Man:" they are using budgeted money from whatever alphabet agency to buy guns for organizing for action, dhs, and whatever other brownshirt groups they’re intending to arm.
these agencies are just funding mechanisms. they are “straw purchaser agencies”."

I believe this is true !!
There is too much armlament and ammo ordered to satisfy agency self-defense.
Straw purcheses fits in this regieme scenario !
But the key question is , where is this stuff going ?

23 posted on 05/24/2014 1:19:51 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Westbrook

Fortunately the next President can undo anything that was ordered by Executive Order and/or is illegal.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 1:21:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: kingattax

Why don’t you excise that out of their budget?


25 posted on 05/24/2014 1:21:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: kingattax

Don't forget your body armor, boys... You'll need it if you think you are gonna make me put down this tall cold glass of grass-fed Jersey cow raw milk.

26 posted on 05/24/2014 1:42:47 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Star Traveler
Jim Bridenstine is my representative and I was one of those who voted him into office. I’m glad to have him around!

Lucky you. I wish Lynn Westmoreland (R, GA-3) had the guts to say such a thing. But Lynnguini is too much of a coward to say anything in public that Speaker Boehner doesn't approve of. What a wuss we just renominated.

27 posted on 05/24/2014 1:46:04 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: kingattax

I think it’s obvious.

Rocky Balboa might show up and start Beating the Meat.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 1:51:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I think they are worried about Mad Cow Disease!


29 posted on 05/24/2014 2:04:10 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Where are we going from here?)
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To: Dr. Ursus
The Egyptians and the Ukraines didn’t fire on their own people. I don’t put that faith in Obama’s swat team wannabes!

It's time to get the Tea Party and the Oath Takers to combine their efforts by creating the Constitution Party.

30 posted on 05/24/2014 2:04:24 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: immadashell
Sorry, I meant “Oathkeepers”.
31 posted on 05/24/2014 2:06:49 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Westbrook

Submachine guns are useless beyond 100 yards.(Believe me on this,I own one).When subgun armed people come up against folks with scoped hunting rifles,they are doomed.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 2:13:05 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Rodamala

A 7.62x51 defeats level IIIA body armour at all practical shooting distances.They are going to have to do better than that.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 2:16:26 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: kingattax

How about some in Congress grow a set and say EVERYONE CAN HAVE THEM!”?


34 posted on 05/24/2014 2:43:39 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: kingattax

Rep. Bridenstine: Why Does USDA Need Submachine Guns?


Well Duuuugh.. it like this dude just woke up....
Maybe he is an alien from another planet..

Police State creep has crept up on him...
he must think socialism is just an ideology and not a political disease...

Reminds me of 1938 Germany.. when socialism took over there..
Socialists band together and THEN “purge” weaker forces within their ranks..
They always do that..

Should be happening soon in the U.S. if not already happening..
Socialism is a political virus..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGXSEZ1xWA


35 posted on 05/24/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: kingattax; et al

Because the fish cops, tree cops, tax cops etc. have them. The cow cops just want to belong to the club.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 3:36:09 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: kingattax

To tenderize meat. Ours.


37 posted on 05/24/2014 3:38:29 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: kingattax
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

- Barack Hussein Obama

Who would have guessed that America's most dangerous enemy was talking about BLM and USDA?

38 posted on 05/24/2014 4:15:54 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Vinylly

The scary thing is how many people will support him if he DOES try to take over. There will be millions and millions.


39 posted on 05/24/2014 4:23:54 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Farmer Dean
Submachine guns are useless beyond 100 yards.(Believe me on this,I own one).When subgun armed people come up against folks with scoped hunting rifles,they are doomed.

Because those fancy vests don't work against head shots. The good thing is, you can always take theirs after, since they won't be damaged.

40 posted on 05/24/2014 5:26:33 PM PDT by zeugma (I have never seen anyone cross the street to avoid a black man in a suit.)
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To: zeugma

Their vests will likely be rated IIIA.Useless against 7.62 fire.


41 posted on 05/24/2014 5:32:16 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

organizing for action, black panthers, nation of islam, commie symp groups...


42 posted on 05/24/2014 6:08:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
But the key question is , where is this stuff going?

Into warehouses.

Why are they doing it? Because that's the only thing they can do. The government cannot mail order 20 million young, healthy men who are eager to die for that government's failed policies. All it can do is to order the weapons and hope for the best. That's why most of those weapons will have to be stored; there aren't enough warm bodies to issue them to. You can't give an SMG to an IRS accountant - she simply won't take it.

Well, at least those storage depots become a reliable source of military grade arms when necessary. You can see how that worked out in several countries in last couple of years, from Libya to Syria to Ukraine. Government supplies quickly cease to be government supplies if there is nobody willing to defend them. First, police and secutiry offices are raided, and their weapons captured. Then local military bases are raided. Then the raiders have it all - guns, bombs, tanks... everything. It's very hard to force your employees to kill, and it's even harder to force them to die. Give them an alternative, and they will take it. The police force executed an impressive disappearing act during Katrina - and those people were legally required to patrol the streets. I do not believe that "an employee" of BLM, for example, will be eager to become a live target. Those guys are brave only when they are hundred strong against one unarmed man. Only the volunteers will remain, on all sides.

43 posted on 05/24/2014 8:26:41 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Farmer Dean

> When subgun armed people come up against folks with scoped
> hunting rifles,they are doomed.

That’s when the armored vehicles move in and, if they’ve got them, helicopter gunships.


44 posted on 05/25/2014 3:32:16 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Star Traveler

> Fortunately the next President can undo anything that was
> ordered by Executive Order and/or is illegal.

The next president is likely to be every bit as committed to the march to totalitarianism as Bathhouse Barry is.


45 posted on 05/25/2014 3:36:30 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

When the armoured vehicles move in,patriots will look for soft targets.Things get ugly at that point.


46 posted on 05/25/2014 6:01:43 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: kingattax

The next paragraph of the Newsmax article:

“The USDA’s solicitation was first reported by Breitbart.”

Wrong!


As usual FreeRepublic had the story ahead of everyone else: Breitbart, Drudge & WND, etc.

U.S. Department of Agriculture: Solicitation for submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W,
Federal Business Opportunitiies ^ | May 7, 2014 | USDA
Posted on 5/13/2014, 7:44:42 PM by Perseverando
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3155648/posts

Dept of Agriculture Orders Submachine Guns with 30 Round Magazines - http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/14/Dept-Of-Agriculture-Orders-Submachine-Guns-With-30-Round-Magazines

USDA orders submachine guns with 30-round magazines - http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/usda-orders-submachine-guns-with-30-round-magazines/#3abg0M5sOykhZEQM.99


47 posted on 05/25/2014 4:30:47 PM PDT by Perseverando (Obamanation: It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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