Posted on 05/25/2014 3:22:47 PM PDT by Twotone
In the great dispute over utilization of our Federal lands in the West, the attempt is frequently made to end run the arguments over how best to manage those lands by asserting the Federal government has no capacity to own the lands. The argument goes that since the Constitution is a delegation of enumerated powers, if there is no provision therein for ownership of land, the Federal government must lack standing to be a legitimate owner. This is not an idle question. It is said to have given Jefferson great pause prior to deciding to make the Louisiana Purchase.
However, there is excellent authority in the Constitution for Federal ownership of property including territory, which is simply a peculiar form of property.
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Only a tiny minority of animals covered by the ESA are dangerous. And while there are dangerous ones, they are not the focus of the truly massive land grabs, which is done for less visible creatures like mice, insects, plants, etc.
Like right now, the feds want to take 6,000 acres from Arizona for the “New Mexico meadow jumping mouse”.
It is “Listed as Least Concern because it is very widespread, common and not in decline throughout most of its extensive range, it occurs in many protected areas and there are no major threats.” Except in that 6,000 acres in southern Arizona that the federal want to grab. Territory on the extreme end of where that mouse can live.
In 2004, 31,000 acres along streams in Colorado and Wyoming have been set aside as critical habitat for the “Preeble’s Mouse”, inflicting tremendous costs on those wishing to use their land. And even after it was proven that the “Preeble’s Mouse” *didn’t exist*, though it had cost some $100 million to those who lived in the area, the federals just shrugged and said that no, they were not going to give that land back.
Yes, wolves and bears can threaten ranchers herds and even people. But the federals are the far worse threat to their prosperity and very lives.
I dont give a rats ass what any court case might have said. The courts are as corrupt as the congress.
Congress might OVERSEE the function of the trustee, but the management has failed, and the states now take over.
Your reply is so immature and uneducated it I have no wonder why this nation is in the state it is.
As a past member of the FL Sierra Club’s Florida Executive Committee (FLEXCOM) I can assure you the purpose of the Great Un-Natural Acts was to communize America. They worked as planned.
I suggested the “quartering” argument because American courts are an intellectual perverts dance macabre.
Between ‘standing’ and a catchy tune for a commie justice of five to sing along with, Natural Law has been violated so often that Lady Justice has become a ‘leather bottomed whore’.
As usual, laws, including the Great Un-Natural Acts, are used by those in power to perform the usual nasties as defined in Kipling’s famous ‘take from collective Peter and give to selected Paul’.
Hope for anything good? Dream on - as an example, my land in the Everglades has been under a 99% open space requirement, but no taking has occurred. Jim Burling, at Pacific Legal said I was not a sufficiently sympathetic client and when a property rights champion like Jim said something like that, you can forget about the Republic being returnable to anything similar to what the Founders thought they had created.
Meanwhile, back on the Gubment lands, critters were leaving as socialism demonstrated it was tolerable for neither man nor beast.
No snout has ever left the Gubment Trough willingly.
Historically, the Trough ran dry due to bankruptcy or a war killed off the Trough Feeders or destroyed the Trough and Trough Feeders alike. I hope America can be an exception to the history of Trough Feeding/Trough Feeders - but hope is thin these days.
History says tomorrow doesn’t look good either, not for the Trough and not for the Trough Feeders.
Yeah, that's what the article said. More good intentions gone wrong.
You say "the states now take over". Making that statement leads to the "Transfer of Public Lands Act". So if that Act leads to a court decision, and you don't recognize the court, what will you do then?
I know what you will do. Exactly what you do now. You log onto Free Republic so that you bitch, moan, and whine and try to act like bad ass.
If you are, would you please re-post that. I meant to save it, but somehow it got away.
Been up to Nevada lately chum? I have.
Now when are you going to back up your mouth?
“Are you the same person that posted a BLM video a couple weeks ago that dealt with range fires and wild horses?”
No, but out of curiosity I searched YouTube using “blm wild horses video” and got this (will check it out later on):
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blm+wild+horses+video
Thanks for you effort, but I didn’t see it there. I had also previously searched for it. I’ll try again later looking thru that BLM National and the other YouTube channels.
OTOH, you don't abide, so it is only you that has to back up your mouth. And there is not much to that because the only place you shoot your mouth off is on FR.
That is what I thought. Like to spout off yet wont back up anything.
Go back to your liberal blogs now.
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