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Cops never saw shooter’s disturbing videos before spree
New York Post ^ | May 25, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/25/2014 4:22:15 PM PDT by conservative98

His parents said they were so concerned that they called police. Officers who showed up at Rodger’s doorstep for a mental health check in April, however, found a well-mannered if shy young man whom they concluded posed no risk.

They hadn’t seen the videos, and by the time law enforcement had, it was too late: Rodger had gone on a deadly rampage.

The sheriff’s office “was not aware of any videos until after the shooting rampage occurred,” Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Kelly Hoover said.

Sheriff Bill Brown has defended the officers’ actions, but the case highlights the challenges that police face in assessing the mental health of adults, particularly those with no history of violent breakdowns, institutionalizations or serious crimes.

“Obviously, looking back on this, it’s a very tragic situation and we certainly wish that we could turn the clock back and maybe change some things,” Brown told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

“At the time deputies interacted with him, he was able to convince them that he was OK,” he said.

It’s not clear why the sheriffs did not become aware of the videos. Attorney Alan Shifman said the Rodger family had called police after being alarmed by YouTube videos “regarding suicide and the killing of people” that Elliot Rodger had been posting.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; california; cops; denial; donutwatch; elliotrodger; guncontrol; guns; knife; knives; leo; police; rodger; santabarbara; santabarbarapolice; secondamendment; videos; youtube
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To: conservative98

People shooting others, all for no apparent reason, one of the dangers of a free society.

The alternative is so much worse, as millions would attest to if they hadn’t been murdered by the very kind of people so many Freepers think should have taken to gun from this young man.


21 posted on 05/25/2014 5:03:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

>>The kids PARENTS called them, so why didn’t they bust his chops? “<L<

Because, at 22 years of age he has as much rights as every other adult American citizen and with the right lawyer he could clean their clocks and wallets.


22 posted on 05/25/2014 5:07:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: goodwithagun

Yeah me too I be in shock if I was a mom

There is speculation that dude wasn’t right in the head KFI radio news has great story on it during Mo Kelly show that dude had “some mental issues’ unfortunately he didn’t fit the critqute of 5150 laws in state of CALI


23 posted on 05/25/2014 5:08:47 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: bunkerhill7
Videos don't kill. But cops will stop and hassle you if you are just walking or driving down the street. If cops stop your car, they will ask if they can look inside. These cops knew there were videos of him saying he was going to kill people, that's why they went to the apartment.

Did the cops at least ask to look inside the apartment or do any further investigation? The guy said if they looked inside, he knew it would have been all over. Maybe the cops didn't have the right to look inside the apartment or maybe they did, but they did not ask and did no further investigation. They just asked a couple questions, took his word for it, and went back to the donut shop.
24 posted on 05/25/2014 5:21:58 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The local news here keeps on calling it a “Shooting” Rampage..they don’t even mention the three who were stabbed to death..just as I suspected, they no longer exist..they lumped them altogether with the ones who were killed by gunfire and are telling the public that all six were killed by a gun


25 posted on 05/25/2014 5:27:59 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I wonder if it mattered in terms of searches that the kid lived in a kind of “home,” for special-needs people, apparently. I wonder if they had asked to search, who would legally be allowed to OK it? Everyone seems to be talking a lot (parents, police) very quickly after the crime. I guess it is CYA mode, but it is strange to see.


26 posted on 05/25/2014 5:33:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Why ruin a perfectly good propaganda campaign with facts?


27 posted on 05/25/2014 5:34:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: yarddog

The REASON they always say “Shooter” is because they are ANTI-GUN!


28 posted on 05/25/2014 5:36:52 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Bob

That’s what I was thinking. And it wouldn’t just be hearsay if he posted videos of himself making threats.


29 posted on 05/25/2014 5:38:53 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Obama’s Administrations is ALREADY considering Knife Control! They are thinking of English knife laws! If you possess a knife outside of your kitchen, you WILL go to jail, is their plan.


30 posted on 05/25/2014 5:39:15 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep, the media knows knives will never be banned and what the Commies have always wanted are guns to be banned, that way they control everyone..whenever I hear someone bring up “Gun Control” I remember the words of Adolf Hitler “To control a nation, one must disarm its citizens.” Meanwhile, turns out the killer was obsessed with the California Lottery, was pissed he never won..perhaps we need to ban the lottery..for the children


31 posted on 05/25/2014 5:39:37 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2harddrive

I have some butcher knives in my kitchen..I am afraid they might come out of the drawers and start stabbing people..should I go hide under my bed?


32 posted on 05/25/2014 5:40:57 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Bob

Fair enough. I would put more of the onus on the parents to see to it that it was done than on the cops though.


33 posted on 05/25/2014 5:45:56 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Only anti-Mohhamed videos.


34 posted on 05/25/2014 5:50:03 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’m sure glad someone else sees this.


35 posted on 05/25/2014 5:52:22 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: conservative98

But less than a month before his attacks, after he had planned the killings and obtained the guns he would use, the community college student opened his door to a knock to find about seven officers looking for him.

“I had the striking and devastating fear that someone had somehow discovered what I was planning to do, and reported me for it,” Rodger said in a manifesto obtained by California’s KEYT-TV, excerpts of which were published by the Los Angeles Times.

“If that was the case, the police would have searched my room, found all of my guns and weapons, along with my writings about what I plan to do with them. I would have been thrown in jail, denied of the chance to exact revenge on my enemies. I can’t imagine a hell darker than that. Thankfully, that wasn’t the case, but it was so close,” he wrote.

He said he learned that videos he posted online had alarmed his mother, and he believed either she or a mental health agency had asked authorities to check up on him.

“The police interrogated me outside for a few minutes, asking me if I had suicidal thoughts. I tactfully told them that it was all a misunderstanding, and they finally left,” he said in the manifesto, according to the Times.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/25/us-usa-shooting-california-idUSBREA4N05120140525


36 posted on 05/25/2014 5:57:26 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: TigersEye
Fair enough. I would put more of the onus on the parents to see to it that it was done than on the cops though.

I agree, the parents were much more familiar with the son and his situation then the cops could be expected to be. While the cops should have checked out the videos, since they didn't, the kid was able to snow them on his mental state.

37 posted on 05/25/2014 6:00:13 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Someone upthread said he didn’t fit the 5150 profile anyway. I don’t know anything about that. Did he make threats in any of his videos prior to the last one?


38 posted on 05/25/2014 6:06:38 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Cicero

Now these killings can legitimately be blamed on a You Tube video. But the dumb libs will blame it on guns.


39 posted on 05/25/2014 6:27:01 PM PDT by Arsynic
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To: Arsynic
these killings can legitimately be blamed on a You Tube video. But the dumb libs will blame it on guns.

I'd blame it on a sick twisted freak.

40 posted on 05/25/2014 6:35:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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