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Shooting victimís father to Congress: Give me gun control, not sympathy
bangordailynews.com ^ | 5/27/2014 | Kimberly Kindy

Posted on 05/28/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by rktman

Richard Martinez grew up around guns, shooting birds out of the fruit trees on his family’s farm. He later served as a military police officer in the U.S. Army before going on to become a criminal defense lawyer, at times representing the young and the violent.

Now, Martinez is a grieving father.

He’s asking members of Congress to stop calling him to offer condolences but nothing more for the death of his only child, Christopher Michaels-Martinez, who was killed in the rampage Friday in Santa Barbara, California.

“I don’t care about your sympathy. I don’t give a s— that you feel sorry for me,” Richard Martinez said during an extensive interview, his face flushed as tears rolled down his face. “Get to work and do something. I’ll tell the president the same thing if he calls me. Getting a call from a politician doesn’t impress me.”

Saying “we are all to blame” for the death of his 20-year-old son, Martinez urged the public to join him in demanding “immediate action” from members of Congress and President Barack Obama to curb gun violence by passing stricter gun-control laws.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; elliotrodger; guncontrol
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Uh, at the risk of being called a racis' because mr. martinez is apparently hiss-panic, no more gc and no sympathy. Any sympathy was out the door when he decided to voice his opinion about my rights. Hmmm. He's a criminal defense attorney. Sounds like he's expecting a call from the lyin'king. Well marty, some nut bag killed your son. If your son had not been one of the victims, and the perp had not off'd himself, I'm sure you'd be lining up to defend him. Jerk.
1 posted on 05/28/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

If only one of his roommates had had a gun —


2 posted on 05/28/2014 9:22:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rktman

Confirms that Joe the plumber was right.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 9:22:33 AM PDT by Biggirl (¬ďGo, do not be afraid, and serve¬Ē-Pope Francis)
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To: rktman

Screw that gun grabber.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 9:23:14 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: rktman
to become a criminal defense lawyer, at times representing the young and the violent.

hmmmm....

5 posted on 05/28/2014 9:24:12 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Uncle Chip

When someone (supposedly) slashes your throat while you sleep it’s hard to defend yourself. My question is, were they drugged? I thought the event occurred fairly early in the evening. Why would all 3 be asleep at that time?


6 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:08 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

I’m confused. Didn’t his son die from stab wounds from a knife? I still don’t understand why he is angry at the NRA? The NRA didn’t put the knife in Elliots hands, did they?


7 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:09 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: rktman

Gun owner to Richard Martinez.
Grow up. Grow a pair. Put on your big girl panties. Go after the folks to blame for your kid’s death - Robert’s parents.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: rktman

AND the gun and knife or the car (IIRC the scumbag ran over 1 or 2 of the deceased) is NOT the problem.

A loonytune P.O.S. was the problem!

Get the facts right Pedro...


9 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:21 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: rktman

His grievance does not outweigh my rights.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: realcleanguy

No, his son was shot at the convenience store. The three roomates had their throats cut while the were asleep. Odd eh?


11 posted on 05/28/2014 9:26:20 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Spot on


12 posted on 05/28/2014 9:26:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: realcleanguy

Is this true.I don’t know?


13 posted on 05/28/2014 9:27:39 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: CGASMIA68

sorry #11 wasn’t up yet


14 posted on 05/28/2014 9:28:53 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: rktman
Stop beating around the bush and support a total gun ban then.

I want Martinez, or anyone in the Democrat/media establishment, to just come out and say it. Say that it's time for everyone in America to turn in their guns.

COME ON LEFTISTS, IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!

15 posted on 05/28/2014 9:31:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: rktman

Who knows what any of us would say at the horrific loss of our child, BUT...he sure had his talking points lined up awfully fast....Even in grief, an agenda prevails?

3...2...1...Trayvon-Momma-Money-Maker PING!


16 posted on 05/28/2014 9:34:09 AM PDT by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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To: rktman

Half the victims were stabbed to death. Clearly we need knife control laws.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 9:34:26 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: rktman

Playing right into the tyrants hands.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 9:35:47 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: rktman

I would appreciate it if this man and his demon spawn son would stop attacking our civil rights.

We had nothing to do with the crimes you son committed.

But you did, because you made him.

You have no sympathy from me, and you will not have my civil rights either.

Shut up and go away.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 9:39:19 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: rktman
Getting a call from a politician doesn’t impress me.”

I'm cutting the guy some slack, his son was brutally murdered a few days ago, he's in a state of extreme emotion and grief, and he wants to do something constructive to make sense of something incomprehensible. However, he has no idea how politicians are chomping at the bit to use him as we speak.

20 posted on 05/28/2014 9:39:39 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: rktman

give Martinez a pass, he is out of his mind right now with grief and looking to make sense out of the senseless

it happens when you lose a kid in such a shocking and unfair way

However, our SHAMELESS liberal politicians need to STOP using grieving parents as poster children for their own anti 2d amendment agendas

Someone should eventually steer Martinez to a real cause- crusading for better mental health providers and services, accountability for their malpractice, and a law with the balls to identify psychopaths and commit them against their will for a thorough evaluation- then admit that some humans, even from childhood, do not deserve to walk free among the rest of us

I wonder how many psychos Martinez has set free on other parents, as a defense attorney?


21 posted on 05/28/2014 9:39:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: rktman
I have nothing but contempt for a person who uses their dead child as a political tool. He is something like the male version of Cindy Sheehen. The murder of his son does not give him the right to take away the rights of other people. He wants to punish law abiding gun owners but has nothing but hugs and kisses for the father who raised the freak who murdered his son.
22 posted on 05/28/2014 9:41:02 AM PDT by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: rktman

You had gun control. What you needed was Son Control.

And if you try to take my guns from me, you’ll need a LOT of extra security....


23 posted on 05/28/2014 9:41:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: silverleaf

A pass?

No.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: rktman

What country can we export him to that has the gun control he desires?


25 posted on 05/28/2014 9:44:26 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: LadyBuck
Who knows what any of us would say at the horrific loss of our child, BUT...he sure had his talking points lined up awfully fast....Even in grief, an agenda prevails?

I've avoided making comments earlier, because like you said - tragedies can affect people in different ways - but ... his son's body was barely cold and he was out making public political remarks. Rather than making funeral arrangements, mourning for the loss of his son, comforting his wife, and other loved ones -- he's out wrapping himself in the mantle of his son's blood and advocating government confiscation of firearms.

After mourning a few weeks, it would have made more sense for him to advocate that Government reduces the obstacles that put in front of our ability to exercise our 2nd Amendment rights and protect ourselves from the crazies and criminals. The guy comes off as someone with an agenda, and he's more than happy to use his son's death as a platform and a launching pad for his new 'career'.

26 posted on 05/28/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: rktman

Sounds to me like he is ginning up for a run for Congress.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 9:47:53 AM PDT by fishnuts2 (Not rich enough to be a democrat)
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To: rktman

He should forget his interest in being an anti-gun activist and instead figure out how he can help people with mental illness, which is what the kid suffered from.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 9:48:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: chris37
I would appreciate it if this man and his demon spawn son would stop attacking our civil rights.

We had nothing to do with the crimes you son committed.

But you did, because you made him.

Richard Martinez is NOT the father of Elliot Rodger. Martinez' son will killed at a deli, by Elliot Rodger.

29 posted on 05/28/2014 9:50:23 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: rktman

Couldn’t we loose him also?


30 posted on 05/28/2014 9:51:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: rktman
He's a criminal defense attorney by profession, so he's devoted his life to keep the bat**** crazy and criminals free. Of course he doesn't see himself in any way responsible for this. But he is. He would have fought tooth and nail to keep Rodger from being committed to a psychiatric institution.

Sympathy for him as a grieving father, but absolutely no sympathy at all for him sloughing responsibility and waving his kid's bloody shirt.

31 posted on 05/28/2014 9:51:20 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: fishnuts2
"Sounds to me like he is ginning up for a run for Congress."

Carolyn "Shoulder Thing" McCarthy (*) is retiring due to self-induced lung cancer, so they need a replacement.

(* Notwithstanding the fact that she smoked for 40 years, she blames asbestos. I swear, liberalism really is a mental illness!)

32 posted on 05/28/2014 9:56:43 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Respects to the dad for the loss of his son.....California has some of the nation's toughest gun laws and not one stopped the kid from doing what he did.

He keeps up with this public call for gun control and he will begin to lose empathy.

33 posted on 05/28/2014 9:58:14 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: chris37

Not the perps dad. One of the victims dad. Who is a criminal-defense attorney. No doubt if the son he lost was not a victim, this asshat would have lined up to defend the perp if he hadn’d popped himself.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 9:59:19 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

There’s a good chance his son would be alive today, if others had been armed. Now he wants to disarm all the others.


35 posted on 05/28/2014 10:02:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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“....before going on to become a criminal DEFENSE lawyer”

All I needed to know to not bother reading nay further.


36 posted on 05/28/2014 10:02:33 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Half the victims were stabbed to death. Clearly we need knife control laws.

some states do have laws on knives...believe it or not.

37 posted on 05/28/2014 10:03:20 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: fishnuts2
Sounds to me like he is ginning up for a run for Congress.

Yep, from the first, he went straight to political message.

38 posted on 05/28/2014 10:03:53 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: silverleaf

Remember what VT Senator Bernie Sanders said, “people die every day”.

As long as it’s just some old Veterans, no problem for good old Bernie.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 10:05:51 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: rktman

What about drugs (SSRIs), Mr. Martinez?


40 posted on 05/28/2014 10:08:10 AM PDT by mom.mom
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OH, he’s criminal defense lawyer.

I get it.

Hey, grieving father.

“Grieve.” PRAY for your son’s soul.

That’s my suggestion.


41 posted on 05/28/2014 10:08:44 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Fair Paul

No slack fom here.He needs to grieve and STFU


42 posted on 05/28/2014 10:10:56 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Stop beating around the bush and support a total gun ban then.
I want Martinez, or anyone in the Democrat/media establishment, to just come out and say it. Say that it’s time for everyone in America to turn in their guns.”

But that would require intellectual honesty from the leftists. No matter what incremental gun control laws are passed in order to stop this sort of thing there will only be another eventually, followed by more disingenuous callers for yet more gun control, as has happened over the last thirty years, instead of addressing the real underlying cultural and social and mental illness causes.

Sadly, while such efforts can be obstructed and slowed down, given present trends I doubt this strategy can be stopped in the long term unless there is a real awakening, or revolution.


43 posted on 05/28/2014 10:11:33 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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Sure Martinez, we'll give you gun control. Ammo first.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

44 posted on 05/28/2014 10:12:40 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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And how will they blame the NRA when no guns are used?

The biggest mass killing school disaster;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster


45 posted on 05/28/2014 10:14:19 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: rktman

Is anyone else sick of this guy..seriously, the moment I saw him on TV my libtard radar went off..he can’t grieve for his murdered son, instead he uses his son’s tragic death to push for a ban on guns..Hey Martinez..I got a message for you..SCREW YOU


46 posted on 05/28/2014 10:15:50 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rktman
If Mr. Martinez wants more gun control he should use both hands.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

47 posted on 05/28/2014 10:16:31 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: rktman

What did I read lately? Your loss does not trump my COnstitutional rights?
I don’t blame the system, I blame the person(s). But then, I have a sane, rational mind.


48 posted on 05/28/2014 10:21:43 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: rktman

for a democrat, nothing is more important than the ‘agenda’. All too often we see political visionaries dancing or campaigning on top of their ‘loved one’s’ coffin.

It is always the gun that did the crime, not some drug altered whack job.

This idiot does not sympathy, he wants gun control. He sacrificed his some to the cause and now he wants results. He is not interested in reducing violence, He wants guns eliminated. He knows the answer to the problem and it is settled science.

Sick sick sick people.


49 posted on 05/28/2014 10:22:47 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: silverleaf

Screw Martinez. I’ve been out of my mind with grief at the death of my little brother. It never would have occurred to me to disarm people who the police have no obligation or ability to defend. I am sorry his son was murdered. I am sorry that gun free zones result in more deaths than necessary but I am not going to let Martinez and those like him make my family sitting ducks for predators.


50 posted on 05/28/2014 10:24:45 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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