Posted on 05/29/2014 4:49:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Detectives say Jonas Charles ambushed teens who returned to lot after stealing keys....
Instead of waiting for authorities to arrive, Charles took the law into his own hands and ignored the 15-year-old's plea not to shoot him, detectives said.
Charles then chased the wounded teen, yelling at him and firing another shot while on the phone with a BSO dispatcher, detectives said.
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What about Texas?
Horse thievery used be a short term job occupation.
Here in Washington State you can. Although this punk had already ceased trying to steal this car, so it was a bad shoot.
that’s hilarious, good for you, yes you can tape it and if the doofus objects, tell them you want to talk to the supervisor and keep going up the line. Anyone who hangs up on you, report
the reason they tape them, or say they are taping them is because people get so upset dealing these customer service reps they cuss them out and might not cuss them out if they think they are being taped.
Shoot first, ask questions later.
Like, “How many years will I be in prison?”
disclaimer: I am not your lawyer, check with your own state, you should advise that you are taping, etc., this is not legal advice, and so on
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property;"
The law isn't the same in all states.
/johnny
Guess he could have killed both of the little thieves and said he didn’t know who did the shooting. Or, he could have just held the kids until the cops arrived.
He was definitely not thinking straight.
You can’t shoot someone for stealing a car.
Under the particular circumstances cited here, I understand. But wouldn't there be exceptions?
Such as you stopping to help someone on a deserted highway and they jack your car?
Same thing in an inner city full of feral animals? (Though I would never stop in such circumstances)
On a city street at a stoplight?
Defenseless passengers in your car?
I remember in the '70s, a friend from Texas said it was legal to shoot someone who was messing with their trot lines.
It seems that the teens never made it to the "getting away with the property" part. IMO, just because you can get away with it isn't a good reason to kill someone who doesn't need to be killed - it gets abused by citizens and LEOs alike; we just get more upset when LEOs do it.
... it had already escalated past 1 reps to a second supervisor. It was a super that denied me and hung up. I couldn’t understand the first sup and insisted on a person I could understand. This was a Visa account at Fidelity Investments. I have really lost most of my respect for that big Fidelity outfit, they must locate the duffusses in this CC dept.
One can tell alot from accents and poor diction.
Things certainly changed in South Florida after Gov. Bob Graham appointed Janet Reno to Attorney General.
(and instead look on them as “them” and as a group to be milked of every last cent possible)
Exactly. For the most part, it was the vigilantes of the old west who brought law and order to the frontier.
In a number of cases, law and order got involved quite late, quite reluctantly and only, finally, when the vigilantism got out of hand.
Even in the case of the famous Judge Isaac Parker, he stated that the law was applied fairly, swiftly and harshly to ensure that vigilantism did not return.
in Texas you can. on your property. A repo man went into someone’s car port to hook up a wrecker to take back a car in Texas. the repo man was shot dead. the property owner was exonerated.
Two wrongs here...the teens for trying to steal cars and the dealer. Jail them both...
Some friend that tries to blame you for his deeds.
I guess it depends on where you are and how much you like your car? Myself, I can’t see myself doing that, unless I was in 2 hours in the bush working and someone tries to make off with my truck. That could make my situation life threatening heh.
You most certainly can shoot someone for stealing a car. The problem is that prosecutors tend to frown on that behavior.
Unless the shooter can convince a skeptical cop and prosecutor, and a potentially more sympathetic jury, that he could have reasonably believed his life was in danger, it may not go well. As for a guy who can’t settle in advance on whether he shot the thief or a friend did, he’s not going to make a convincing case for self-defense, even if he has my full sympathy.
Actually the reason they give for taping the calls is so they can better train and counsel reps on how to handle difficult situations. FWIW
/johnny
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