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Thad Cochranís Mississippi
Rothenberg Political Report ^ | 6/3/14 | Stuart Rothenberg

Posted on 06/03/2014 6:53:56 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

While some Republicans are so fed up with Washington, D.C., they simply will vote for change, many Republicans in the Delta will stick with the man who has done what senators — and particularly Southern senators — have always done: support programs and federal spending that help constituents.

Some even told me that if Cochran loses, they would vote in the fall for Childers, whose view of the role of government seems closer to Cochran’s than does the libertarian McDaniel’s. You see, in the Delta, all politics remains local.

(Excerpt) Read more at rothenbergpoliticalreport.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: cochran; mcdaniel; thadcochran

1 posted on 06/03/2014 6:53:56 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

and the establishment weighs in


2 posted on 06/03/2014 6:56:25 AM PDT by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: Lil Flower; Din Maker; Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; ...

So much for party loyalty. If Cochran loses they’ll vote for the mob connected Childers.


3 posted on 06/03/2014 6:59:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

The Deep South has a long tradition of favoring pork and seniority. We’ll see if that still holds true this evening.


4 posted on 06/03/2014 7:00:47 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: jneesy

mcdaniel probably had this in the bag until some moron tried to videotape cochran’s demented wife


5 posted on 06/03/2014 7:03:02 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
The Deep South has a long tradition of favoring pork and seniority. We’ll see if that still holds true this evening.

That's the problem with the GOP establishment in general.

6 posted on 06/03/2014 7:04:28 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Black Agnes

Bookmarking this as evidence the next time the RINO Freeper squad demands we vote for RINOS like in North Carolina.


7 posted on 06/03/2014 7:04:49 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

as long as mcdaniel plays it safe, runs out the clock and doesn’t pull a “mourdock,” he should defeat childers in the general


8 posted on 06/03/2014 7:06:30 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Viennacon

I saw what the state and national GOP(e) did to Bret Schundler when he beat their favorite in the NJ governor’s primary in ‘01. The sitting pubbie governor endorsed the DIM. Who was McGreevey. Great judgement there, right? Left his wife and kid for another man. But hey, most of the corrupt RINO/GOP kept their hands mostly in the till. Bret might have taken them all out.


9 posted on 06/03/2014 7:06:33 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

What they did to Cucinelli in Virginia was the ultimate betrayal. Had they even done a fraction of what they typically do for their candidates, he would have won and Terry McSlimeball would be another footnote.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 7:08:25 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Whatever happens, McDaniel has won by frightening the establishment.

Keep writing off the grass roots to your own demise, liberals.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 7:09:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson; All

If Cochran wins the Primary today can Chris McDaniel run as an Independent or Write-in in November?


12 posted on 06/03/2014 7:10:42 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016. Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: Din Maker

i think Miss. has a “sore loser” law, so he could not appear on the ballot. but nothing prevents a write-in campaign (Hell, it worked for murkowski)


13 posted on 06/03/2014 7:17:30 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Viennacon
Cucinelli in VA...

I hope he along with Bevin and probably a few others are the last of his breed. That would be potential nominees who stand a good chance of being solid constitutional conservatives. For whatever reason, they make horrible mis-steps in the campaign. Cucinelli's fans blame the lack of funds. It isn't that. The funds get them the spotlight. After that, they have to be better, MUCH BETTER than the insider-favored opponents.

From the outside, it looks like McDaniels might have done that. After that bogus picture-taking scandal being blamed on him, McDaniels seems to have gotten a voice that conveys strength and determination. I wish him well.

14 posted on 06/03/2014 7:17:33 AM PDT by grania
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To: Viennacon

That’s because the GOPe and their lobbyist and crony buddies would actually prefer the dim to win. The conservative might actually take a few hands out of the till. Can’t have that now can we..?


15 posted on 06/03/2014 7:19:57 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

First vote cast this morning at Desoto High School in Southaven was for Chris by me.


16 posted on 06/03/2014 7:21:56 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Vote McDaniel June 3rd Mississippi!)
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To: Din Maker
If Cochran wins the Primary today can Chris McDaniel run as an Independent or Write-in in November?

No. Mississippi has a 'sore loser' law that prevents it.

17 posted on 06/03/2014 7:29:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Menehune56

“The Deep South has a long tradition of favoring pork and seniority. “

Mississipi is the poorest state in the USA. When you are at that stage, pork and seniority ARE VERY VERY IMPORTANT.

Although Ohio is not poor, one part of Ohio is as poor as Mississipi and pork is the only way people live. Oh and there are no immigrants, it is 98 percent white.


18 posted on 06/03/2014 7:29:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
" support programs and federal spending that help constituents"

Translation; Shoveling millions of tax-payers dollars into the pockets of special interests in order to buy votes and get kickbacks.

19 posted on 06/03/2014 7:30:45 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

The 17th Amendment to the Constitution changing the election of United States Senators to a popular vote system was driven, in part, by perceived widespread corruption in that body. Senators, it was said, were bought and paid for by the railroad barons who were the deep pocket heavy hitters of their day.

It didn’t fix the problem as we can see in the case of Thad Cochran. He is the Delta Queen when it comes to corruption. He has managed to fool the folks back home with petty little pork deals that make them feel like he is looking out for them while making the real deals with the K Street deep pockets in DC. He is not alone, the Senate is full of these type with the likes of Harry Reid at the top of the pile. With a reelection rate of over 90%, these guys believe that they are untouchable.

If the people of Mississippi select Cochran today, they will have made a choice for corrupt government, something that will benefit them only marginally. Cochran will then give way at some point to Haley Barbour and the cycle will continue. You get the government that you want.


20 posted on 06/03/2014 7:34:09 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Din Maker

I will bet that neither candidate will get 50% and this will force a run-off on June 24th.


21 posted on 06/03/2014 7:34:12 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Black Agnes

“I saw what the state and national GOP(e) did to Bret Schundler when he beat their favorite in the NJ governor’s primary in ‘01. The sitting pubbie governor endorsed the DIM. Who was McGreevey. “

This is a falsehood/lie/incorrect fact or all of the above.

Whitman breaks her silence, strongly endorses Schundler
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/557782/posts

DiFrancesco: No endorsement; McGreevey leads Schundler by 18; Dems portray Schundler as a Terrorist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/563132/posts


22 posted on 06/03/2014 7:40:39 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: HOYA97

No third candidate is receiving any press, so it would have to be extremely close for the winner not to break 50%.


23 posted on 06/03/2014 7:50:52 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Memo for Mr. Rothenberg: there aren’t many Republicans in the Delta; that’s Bennie Thompson’s racially gerry-mandered Congressional district, and if you look at the county-by-country breakout in past presidential elections, the Delta is a blue bastion in an otherwise red state.

I’m guessing the reporter was able to get all those “Republicans in the Delta” around a small table in a Greenville restaurant, if not a booth at the local Hardee’s.


24 posted on 06/03/2014 7:52:54 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Hieronymus

Democrats are going to vote for Thad today. The Cochran campaign has been pushing this. And the Palin and Santorum endorsements are motivating the militant democrats to do just that. It is hilarious to see democrats get so unhinged that they want to go vote for an old man who they have always opposed.


25 posted on 06/03/2014 7:53:25 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: staytrue

Bret got no support from the state GOP. Nor the national GOP.

And the lack of endorsement from the sitting GOP governor was as good as an endorsement for the dim.

The local media certainly played it that way. I was there.

The state GOP had their panties in a wad because *their* guy didn’t win. They took their toys and went home. Bret got no campaign support at all from them.


26 posted on 06/03/2014 7:55:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I merely said that your comment of “The sitting pubbie governor endorsed the DIM. Who was McGreevey. “

that this is an incorrect fact or a lie or all of the above.

Furthermore, this governor was not elected. Whitman was selected to head EPA under Bush and this guy was serving out the last 11 months of her term. And Whitman did endorse Shunder.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 8:03:57 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

whitman was not the sitting governor.


28 posted on 06/03/2014 8:07:50 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: staytrue

http://articles.philly.com/2001-10-10/news/25305606_1_endorsement-letter-abortion-rights-core-republican-values

Blast from the past.

The whole ‘party unity’ if the opposing candidate wins the primary is only for conservative voters to support the libgop candidate. It’s never the other way around.

Read that article.

The entire NJ MSM talked of nothing else during that campaign season. I was there. Stated many times was the fact that little donnie failing to support Schundler was tacit approval of the dim candidate. I heard that every single night on the evening news. It was implied many many many times that donnie couldn’t, for the sake of his own political skin, actually come out and state support for the dim but that with holding his support from Bret amounted to the same thing.

And it did.

Party unity is only when they want the same conservatives they’ve ‘crushed’ and ‘destroyed’ to support them in the general election. It’s NEVER the other way around.


29 posted on 06/03/2014 8:10:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: staytrue

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/mcgreevey-clobbers-schundler-nj-governors-race

Another blast from the past.

“I blame DiFrancesco,” Santorelli said. “He didn’t stand with Bret. Our president stood with Bret. Giuliani stood with Bret. Our own governor didn’t lift a finger to help Bret.

“They say we Republicans have no party unity. Bret tried to unite Republicans. It’s a damn shame our own governor didn’t feel the same way. It’s a disgrace.”

Moreover, I distinctly remember a TV interview after the election where little donnie was asked who he’d voted for. He voted for McGreevey. I can’t find that online though. I’m not the only one who remembers it however.

So yes. The GOPe would rather the dims win than the conservatives. The dims are less likely, especially in the case of crook donnie T, to pull their corrupt little hands and those of their cronies out of the till. And the GOPe is all about crony hands in the till...


30 posted on 06/03/2014 8:17:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

“as long as mcdaniel plays it safe, runs out the clock and doesn’t pull a “mourdock,” he should defeat childers in the general”

It appears to me the worry would be if Cochran wins today. Haley Barbour and the rest of the old geezer’s handlers will have to keep duct tape over Cochran’s mouth to keep him from coming out with another pro-ObummerCare statement, or similarly asinine remark.

I think McDaniel will do just fine in handling himself.


31 posted on 06/03/2014 8:19:13 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson; staytrue

And Whitman only supported him 4 weeks before the election.

Why’d she wait so long?

Bush had already announced his support.

So had Cheney.

And Guiliani.

Why’d Christie Todd wait so long? She wasn’t even in NJ anymore? Probably because of all those rich crooked cronies that had elected her to begin with.

And the fact that Schundler was pro-life and Christie is nothing if not a baby killin’ groupie of Planned Barrenhood. That she endorsed him at all makes me wonder if Bush didn’t give her a talking to about it.


32 posted on 06/03/2014 8:20:41 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

You said “I saw what the state and national GOP(e) did to Bret Schundler “

And now you say that Bush, Cheney and Guiliani were on Shundler’s side from early on.

How can you claim that the national GOPe was opposed to Schunder ?


33 posted on 06/03/2014 8:23:40 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

He got very little money from them.

None of the coordinated support you’d expect.

You were the one who thought Whitman was the sitting governor.

The sitting GOP governor voted for the dim.

The GOPe is all about corruption and baby killing. Threaten to eliminate either of those and they bring out the long knives.


34 posted on 06/03/2014 8:26:26 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

And instead of making the false statement of

“sitting republican governor endorsed the dim”

Why don’t you tell the truth and say

“sitting republican governor lack of endorsement helps dim”

or

“Whitman’s late endorsement helps dim”

But no, you insist on telling the lie and then you try to defend the lie as “sort of like the truth”.

Just state the truth please.


35 posted on 06/03/2014 8:27:06 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

The sitting GOPe governor VOTED for the dim.

Which part of that sentence is difficult to understand?


36 posted on 06/03/2014 8:35:17 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: staytrue

How many times are conservatives berated on this VERY board that unless we support whatever GOPe liberal dreck is running that we’ve elected the democrat?

How many times?

And yet when the sitting GOPe governor of the state of NJ not only failed to endorse the conservative candidate, but actually VOTED for the DIM, that’s OK or something?

How is failing to endorse, when you’re in the governor’s seat, anything but blatant support for the dim?

We’ve been told that many many many times. If you fail to lap up all the liberal dreck for McCainRomneyJeb, you’re as good as electing the dim? Hmmm?

Where was the GOPe ‘party unity’ when DiFrancesco failed to open his mouth and just mouth basic support for the primary winner?

Did you or anyone else thing that would be interpreted ANY other way?

Donnie VOTED for the dim. Why would he endorse Schundler?

As to WHY Donnie voted for the dim, read this book:

http://www.thesopranostate.com/

And why’d it take Christie Todd 4 months to endorse Schundler? According to the GOPe ‘party unity’ trolls that endorsement should have been IMMEDIATE. But it was NOT. Did Christie really vote for the dim too? Betchayourbippy her lib children did. Baby killing uber alles for Christie Todd and her kin.


37 posted on 06/03/2014 8:40:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
they'll vote for the mob connected Childers....

You know Childers too? My family and I have known him for forty years..

38 posted on 06/03/2014 9:23:09 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

I’ve done a bit of asking around. It’s a shame.

It’s uniparty uber alles.


39 posted on 06/03/2014 9:24:55 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Sybeck1

We voted absentee a few weeks ago. From what I’ve seen lately I believe Senator McDaniel will win, I posted the following on another thread.

“Last week Senator Wicker spoke to our local Republican Club. I had hoped it would be about today’s issues and how he would stand with Conservatives and help stop or undo what Obama and his minions are doing and have done to our country but as I suspected it was a rally for Senator Cochran. When he delivered the applause lines only a quarter of the group applauded, they were those working in Cochran’s behalf, including the high school campaign workers and those with Senator Wicker. Most in attendance didn’t respond to the “applause lines”. The last poll I saw showed a 46% tie. With the McDaniel supporters cranked up and pissed off I believe McDaniel will carry Desoto County and win. Of course I’ve been wrong before, possibly it’s because of who I associate with. I hope Senator Wicker is in the same position as Thad at this point in his next primary, tied in the polls to a REAL Conservative with a fired up base of support.”


40 posted on 06/03/2014 10:59:28 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: duffee

We will soon see I guess. I regret I didn’t work enough for him looking back


41 posted on 06/03/2014 4:25:15 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Vote McDaniel June 3rd Mississippi!)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Thad Cochran (R-Obama)


42 posted on 06/03/2014 11:42:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Black Agnes

True, because most Cochran supporters are Democrats.


43 posted on 06/03/2014 11:43:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Black Agnes

If Cochran loses, Obama is giving him an ambassadorship or putting him in as Secretary of Agriculture.


44 posted on 06/03/2014 11:45:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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