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Vermont gun importer lays off 41, blames rules ( World War II-era M1 Garand rifles )
ap ^ | 6/6/2014 | WILSON RING

Posted on 06/06/2014 10:38:08 AM PDT by george76

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To: Bob

Ir’s an eight round magazine. I trained with one in ROTC in 1963.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 1:15:30 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: circlecity

Many years ago in Officers’ Basic at Ft. Lee, VA, I shot Expert with an M14. Sweetest shooting large bore rifle I ever fired. Later I bought a M1A in 1986. You can’t go wrong with one as long as you’re willing to pop for the initial price of about $1,200.


42 posted on 06/06/2014 1:20:38 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: kitchen

Does the ‘03 Springfield use a stripper clip? If so, that’s what I was confusing with the M1. Obviously, rifles are not my area of expertise when it comes to firearms.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 1:34:04 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Spktyr
Aside from this, the fact remains that Century built guns are often *terrible*.

I have a Century AR-15 that is a tack driver. Never jams no matter how many times I shoot and don't clean it. I reckon even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.

44 posted on 06/06/2014 1:52:32 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: aomagrat

You may have one of the few good ones they ever made. Other people have had such poorly assembled AR’s from Century that they had kabooms on the first pull of the trigger.

They even manage to screw up what was previously thought to be impossible to screw up - Century has made unusable and non-working AKs!


45 posted on 06/06/2014 2:06:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Bob
Yes. The problem with Springfield stripper clips is that the cartridges are retained by the small tabs at each end. These usually break off after a few cycles. If you have originals it's best to keep them as collector pieces and either buy some reproductions in a better metal or investigate the various Mauser stripper clips. As long as the width is close, Mauser clips may work. Proper evaluation for function before relying on substitute parts is prudent.
46 posted on 06/06/2014 2:13:56 PM PDT by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: GingisK
Well, I'll be dipped in s%#t!

Did you know that you can load two rounds in a 8-round en-bloc clip for competition purposes? You make an X with them (looking at the clip from the side so one tip points up, the other down), and hold them snug, and you can load them. It works for the 10-round rapid fire sessions for CMP Garand matches. Two rounds, ping, reload, 8 more, ping. It's a beautiful noise!

The two-round demo starts at about 2:50 into this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6_o-5vOm-A

47 posted on 06/06/2014 2:19:20 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: GingisK
Long range precision shooting covered in detail.
79 videos that will guide you through each step in learning how to hit long range targets. 1000+ yards
48 posted on 06/06/2014 3:28:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: george76

By denying import approval the weapons will be sold somewhere else, perhaps Sudan to Muslims. Obama will like that, Yes he will !!


49 posted on 06/07/2014 1:21:52 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH
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To: Darksheare

An eight round clip is ‘’high capacity’’?


50 posted on 06/07/2014 6:02:14 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

According to the state department circa 2009 in their original import rejection and the Brady campaign when the state department punted the resulting questions to their advisors the Brady bunchers.

Trust me, it is stupid
But they are doing it for a very evil reason that “makes sense” from their objective to ban all firearms.
That this isn’t more widely known is horrifying.


51 posted on 06/07/2014 8:11:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

I was waiting for an M1 for the longest time but they were always out at CMP so I settled for a chinese T53 nagant.

The ammo was , and is , plentiful and cheap. It shoots long and accurately. I dropped it into an archangle polymer stock, scoped it and now it is a thing of beauty.

Kicks like a drunk mule but I love it. Not bad for a $125 weapon.

Ex


52 posted on 06/07/2014 8:23:01 PM PDT by couch1971 (The stupid. It Burns.)
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To: couch1971

I have a large dream list of rifles I’ll never have the money to own.
Most range from WWI to roughly 1960 vintage.
But a man can dream.


53 posted on 06/07/2014 8:34:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: circlecity

Cons:

The gun and its accessories are expensive.

Twenty-round magazines are twenty dollars + a pop (compare to PTR-91 magazines, which you can get for between one and three dollars). This will make stocking up harder and we all know that magazines are currently in the crosshairs of the gun grabbers.

They tend to be heavy depending on whether you get wood or synthetic stocks. The magazines and ammo are also heavy, limiting how much you can carry. Also, unless you’re getting the SOCOM model, they’re long and awkward, which can be an issue depending on your height.

Ammo is expensive (you can buy two twenty-round boxes of 5.56 for the price of one twenty-round box of 308). Same rule as with the price of magazines applies.

To my knowledge, there aren’t any 22 conversion kits for the M1A, which means target shooting is going to be expensive.

The largest amount of bulk 308 ammo you can get is five hundred rounds, and you’ll pay more than you would for a thousand round box of 5.56.

308 kicks like a mule. You will notice this after firing off a few mags.

Pros:

If word from Vietnam is any sign, the gun is reliable and hard-hitting. Anything you hit with it is likely to stay down.

You can load the gun with stripper clips.

The bolt locks back after the last round is fired and is close enough to make charging the gun easy.

Just to let you know, I followed the same road you did (got a PTR-91), and then all of those cons reared their ugly head, especially after I read about the pros of the AR15 and 5.56 round. I don’t know what you’re planning on using the firearm for, but bear in mind that there is a reason a majority of the world’s armies got rid of long-range, heavy caliber rifles and switched over to lighter guns with lighter ammo.

If nothing else, you might consider getting an AR in 308, that way, if you decide you do want to try 5.56, it’s just a matter of switching out some parts rather than buying a whole new gun.


54 posted on 06/08/2014 11:26:41 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Tallguy

We all know that that’s just a smokescreen. Hell, the shooting in California showed us what a joke magazine limits are.


55 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:53 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Billthedrill

Yep, a bad case of Garand thumb. I’m a factory certified armorer for mini 14’s and during the couse I succumbed to the bite of a garand type action. It eventually healed, but that thumbnail is twice as thick as the other!

CC


56 posted on 06/09/2014 7:04:20 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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