Posted on 06/12/2014 12:21:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup
I am for immigration reform because I am against allowing 12 million more illegal immigrants into our country. If we do nothing, 12 million more illegal immigrants will come. We must be in favor of reform—smart reform that starts with border security.
Characterizing that position as "amnesty" is simply untrue.
What we have now is a lawless border. Current policy is a beacon for more illegal immigrants. The Obama administration’s lawless executive orders legalizing people who came here illegally will only encourage more illegal immigration—unless we act now with real, strong, verifiable border security.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Chick, first you screw up the link. Then you posted your support for Paul which (third) brought JR out with a clear meaasge (FURP)
I’d suggest you ping the mods to delete this thread and then go away in shame.
You can’t trust this guy! He’s all over the map. His opinions change like Clinton’s did, stick your finger in the air and see which way the wind blows that day.
I do not for one moment believe he’d have been on a conference calls with people pushing for amnesty if he didn’t believe in it.
Would I go on a conference call with people calling for the Nazis to take over the US? NO Same deal with amnesty.
Yeah, what would YOU call the legalization of the 12mil illegals already here?
AMNESTY, perhaps?
Paul supports that and therefore supports AMNESTY.
To argue otherwise is disingenuous, at best.
They have been saying strong borders since 1986. Problem is they don’t mean what they say. It’s a trap. Both the dems and the e-reps want the illegals here.
You can continue to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain if you want, but there will be no secure borders until we get representatives that understand that the current laws need to be enforced, the employers hiring illegals need to pay the cost of having illegals here, illegals and their families need to be removed from the dole, and their children born here or not, get nothing. Make Mexico, etc., pay.
The secure the borders ruse is what the RINOs start shouting whenever they realize no one is buying their amnesty and they start losing elections. In two years it will be the 30th anniversary of secure the border. Things have only gotten worse and neither the executive branch, which refuses to do its job and execute the law, nor the legislative branch, which refuses to do its job and hold the executive branch accountable, have any desire to defend this country from invasion.
works for me?
No and neither does he.
No, it doesn’t.
It brings you to bretibart.com
NOT the specific article.
as I said the link works for me.
I am stepping on toes with this opinion? I think that Paul should have a chance to clarify what was said. And we should hear it.
I have been here for 15 years and I will not leave in shame.
Sorry it was the top page article I thought I was at the specific page.
Here is the specific page link
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/12/Op-Ed-Secure-the-Border
You are wholly entitled to support whatever rino is pushing amnesty you like. That’s your call entirely.
Why not JUST enforce the existing laws... ?
Why not JUST enforce the existing laws... ?
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Because like most of the laws of this country, they are unenforceable and subject to buracratic jerry-rigging.
We need tougher laws:
this is how you get in, this is how many we will accept and this is how much capital you need to bring with you in order to qualify for citizenship. A couple of million US would do it. No one else.
We must close the border! NOW! If it costs Billions—so be it! We should have a wall to rival the Great Wall of China. It should have electric fences, land mines, layers of barb wire, tank traps and machine gun towers. A new military unit must be made up—The Border Guard—their only job to keep the border air tight—only special controlled points for entry and exit. A layered five mile zone with forts, and bases—all along the southern border from Texas to California-—If we have problems with Canada—we do the same there as well.
Rand Paul has that all over the place, confusing rambling, yes and no, back and forth from here back to there, lack of clarity, that libertarians share.
It’s head scratching stuff, and like reading this article, you almost forget that he is supporting the amnesty side of the GOPe, by the end of it, it’s hard to even remember what the question was.
CNN:
But Paul and Norquist pointed to Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham’s primary victory in South Carolina. Graham was one of the co-sponsors of the comprehensive immigration packaged that was passed by the Senate last year.
Paul argued that the different outcomes in the two elections indicates that immigration reform wasn’t “the paramount issue” that brought down Cantor.
“It’s a mistake to try to paint it and decide that one issue decided this,” he said.
Jack Trammell is the Democrat who no longer has to face Eric Cantor
For his part, Paul said “I am still for it.”
“I say everywhere I go I am for immigration reform,” he added.
I suppose Rand Paul supports:
Continuing to Strengthen Border Security
Earned Citizenship
Streamlining legal immigration
Cracking Down on Employers Hiring Undocumented Workers
If so, then Rand’s saying the same thing on immigration as the White House:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/immigration
If I remember correctly, before coming into this country one had to prove they were financially self-supporting or have some kind of citizen sponsor.
Did that go away?
If I remember correctly, before coming into this country one had to prove they were financially self-supporting or have some kind of citizen sponsor.
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That is the theory, but not the reality.
Good exercise Rand...backpeddaling.
Dear Rand,
I don’t want to hear one word more of your opinion or your myriad of problems with US Immigration Law, or any other of your rhetorical rabbit trails, until LONG after you have shut up, and confined your damn flying coat tails to the time out corner long enough for you to LEARN TO FOCUS, on the one and single matter at hand; border security now! Period.
No more rattling in the wind about your “reform”, nor your musings on immigration, nor your elaborate description of the problems, but just one thing— get us an expedited armed wall NOW, fit to stop dead this invasion! Enough!
Circling the problem with vacuous verbage backed up by squat is burning daylight, solves nothing, stalls action with blabbery and frankly aids and comforts illegal aliens crossing our southern border with the force of an enemy invasion.
Otherwise, come down to south Texas and stand at the border spewing your arid yakking to Texans and border patrol boys, exhausted in the sun from the sheer madness that you can’t seem to grip. Action, Rand, not political arts and crafts.
Men and arms, drones and planes, boycott Mexico, shut off business, stop money and trade.
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