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‘Taking a nap’: Obama team accused of underestimating Iraq unrest
Fox News ^ | June 12, 2014

Posted on 06/13/2014 1:09:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The Obama administration’s apparent miscalculation of the threat posed by Al Qaeda-aligned militants in Iraq drew severe criticism Thursday from top Republican lawmakers, who accused President Obama and his national security team of “taking a nap,” warning “the next 9/11 is in the making.”

Amid criticism from lawmakers, the White House appeared to open the door to the possibility of U.S. airstrikes, but stressed that sending American ground troops is not an option.

“We are not contemplating ground troops,” Press Secretary Jay Carney said. “We are assessing what we can provide additionally.”

The administration once again appears to have been caught off guard by an explosion of violence in a country U.S. forces helped liberate from a dictator. Al Qaeda-aligned Sunni militants were advancing south and threatening to move on Baghdad on Thursday after overrunning the northern Iraq cities of Mosul and Tikrit—with Iraqi government forces in rapid retreat. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; obama; rop; weakpresident

1 posted on 06/13/2014 1:09:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Jay Carney can’t find the door soon enough huh?


2 posted on 06/13/2014 1:13:26 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai
"As recently as Monday, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said of the situation in northern Iraq, "I don't get the sense that they're gaining a lot of territory."

Such blinding brilliance. Where do we get such people? Why are we even allowed to live on the same planet with them?

3 posted on 06/13/2014 1:31:57 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Olog-hai

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. However the Muslim-Brotherhood-advised president Barack Obama has a worse record than a stopped clock when it comes to his sworn executive branch of government duties to protect the U.S., its Constitution, its laws, and the cause of freedom. Is he high as a kite or lazy as a sloth or just continuing his public announcements that he would “fundamentally change the U.S.” into a basket case?


4 posted on 06/13/2014 1:49:25 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Olog-hai

This is what voting “present” looks like in international geopolitics.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 2:01:01 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Olog-hai

Underestimating? Well, maybe in terms of “going better than expected.” Handing yet another ME country over to hard line Islamists is the Obama’s goal.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 2:06:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Olog-hai

Check out the book at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Babylons-Covert-War-J-White/dp/0615319874/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402651373&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=Babylon%27s+Covret+War

Explains why all this is occurring....


7 posted on 06/13/2014 2:22:18 AM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3868


8 posted on 06/13/2014 2:30:13 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: BCW

The war on terror will never be over until Christ comes, it is a religious war and Bible predicted. This was begun as a sibling rivalry between Ishmael (ancestor of Mohammed) and Isaac (Father of 12 Tribes of Israel) and it’s about the Inheritance which is the Land of Israel (Jerusalem).

Bush was right about WMD which most went over border to Syria during six months prior to our attack on Iraq, and they knew we were coming. The 550 metric tons of yellow cake were found and sold to a Canadian company in secrecy during the War.
I gave wrong link on last comment this is clearer info:
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_09/IraqUranium

This shows how incompetent Obama has been in NOT protecting the progress the USA made during the Iraq war, and the loss of Patriot lives trying to liberate Iraq as a democracy. Keeping our gains in Iraq could have helped the Middle East find a measure of peace from such extremists as ISIS.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 2:39:23 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Olog-hai

I bet Obama is really going to be pissed when he reads all about Iraq in the papers this morning.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 2:48:33 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Olog-hai

Accused of micalculating?

Either the miscalculated or they knew and did nothing. So which is it?


11 posted on 06/13/2014 2:58:03 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Kackikat

What does it take for Boehner to begin Articles of Impeachment for the Democrat’s Obama?


12 posted on 06/13/2014 3:20:17 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Boehnor will do nothing but pontificate. Remember Obama and Hitlery have his red file.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 3:24:47 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Olog-hai

Another day another outrage


14 posted on 06/13/2014 3:30:52 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Olog-hai

Obama shooting Eight Ball- “I rack?”


15 posted on 06/13/2014 3:41:03 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Graewoulf

I wish I knew and that they would get on with it....it’s time to get these people out of office. However with the NWO, I guess there are a lot of Republicans already on board with the new global government idea and if it does not happen asap, Americans are going to be unable to recover from what is coming in 2016.


16 posted on 06/13/2014 3:42:17 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Olog-hai

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Could we have done more? Sure. But ultimately, its up the Iraqis to defend their society. If they choose not to do that, then its on them. Given the piss poor performance of their “Army”, I don’t think we should waste one more American life on Iraq.

I also think the people in Central/Northern Iraq will get tired of Sharia law pretty fast. As a result, they will take back most of their region within a year. After that, its an Iraq partitioned four ways: Kurds, Secular Sunnis, Al Qaeda, and Shites (backed by Iran).

Instead of invading, next time we should do all we can to isolate and generally make life miserable for those in areas given over to terrorism.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 4:12:16 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

What is “their society”? It’s Islamic, and as such does not give them an identity apart from that. The only alternative they have known is Arab national socialism (not a typo).

These are the fruits of Obama’s running away. If he dares to compare himself to George Washington (as he did with the Bergdahl swap of all things), then he seems to have forgotten that Washington said that the USA should be “at all times ready for war” against its enemies.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 4:22:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

It is clearly a matter of laziness. Just the simple act of assessing unrest in Iraq requires more work than Obama is willing to invest.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 4:35:40 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Olog-hai; rbg81
"These are the fruits of Obama's running away"

Obama followed Bush's troop withdrawal timetable, which was written into the SOFA, which was a legal and binding agreement, which Bush signed, which could be changed only by the Iraqi govt.

So then you can say that Obama should have negotiated with the Iraq govt a second SOFA that modified the withdrawal timetable to delay it or leave a residual force in Iraq on a semi-permanent basis.

Those negotiations went nowhere because the Iraqi govt insisted on a pre-condition in which any residual American force in Iraq would be subject to Iraqi law. Obama said no to that, so all US troops left.

The Iraqi govt took this position because the Blackwater employees, who the Iraqi govt wanted to prosecute in Iraq for their mis-deeds, would instead be tried in a US court but were never indicted. And as you may be aware, they are still trying to prosecute the Blackwater employees.

This is the third time it has become an issue. First, at the time. Second, during the 2012 campaign and you can find the YouTube video of Obama and Romney debating the issue.

20 posted on 06/13/2014 5:09:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

You’re claiming that the Iraqi government could bind the US government?


21 posted on 06/13/2014 5:19:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This isn’t “taking a nap”, this is
“ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH” a railroad term
that usually led to disaster!


22 posted on 06/13/2014 5:44:04 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kackikat

Ivtalk about everything you just said in the book...hese main stream book publishers did not like the fact i called out Islam for what it was and defended Christ....the founder of the US....if it wasnzt for him..there would not have been this great nation...this nation was foinded on his principles...the US Constitution is a Christian document....evil hates those facts....ai ws told to rewrite my nook by every major publisher out there to keep the military side but lose the religion....why...it would fully expalin the war...well, it is published and available for anyone to read at an inxpensive price...knowlwdge is what is important...not banking a cash roll...if evil wins...who caes how rich you are...it won,t matter....


23 posted on 06/13/2014 5:47:48 AM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

Odumbo and his ilk are now contemplating what to do next.

My guess he will draw lines in the sand over a period of time and all those people of ours who have died will have been for nothing.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 6:10:01 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Hoodat

No, Zero is in ISIS’s side. He is guilty of treason by supporting the terrorists. God help us when gas hits $10/gal.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 6:13:34 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Olog-hai

The Iraqis and the UN nations wanted us out completely and were counting the days until we were gone.

Anyone with a brain knew the country would erupt into civil war as soon as we left.

Obama crowed about his role in securing peace in Iraq. That was a bit premature. The DBM have put their blinders on and are doing their level best to ignore Iraq.

Obama and his national insecurity advisers are no doubt wringing their hands about what to do. Whatever they do, it will be the wrong thing because their view of reality is so misguided.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 6:19:43 AM PDT by randita
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To: Olog-hai
The original legal basis for the US invasion of Iraq was the UN Mandate, which was not open ended, but was extended several times. Keep in mind that that Iraq would supposedly take just a short time.

But eventually, a new agreement covering the US's legal basis in Iraq had to be put in place, and that was the SOFA. In order for Iraq to agree to the SOFA, the US has to demonstrate that they weren't planning on staying in Iraq indefinitely, and this was to be demonstrated by a series of events. And each of the events would demonstrate further progress towards the US leaving Iraq.

In the Spring of 2006, the Iraq Study Group was convened and would issue their report after the 2006 elections so as not to politicize it.

In Nov 2006, Rumsfeld was replaced by Bob Gates, who served on the Iraq Study Group, and would eventually be replaced by Leon Panetta, who also served on the Iraq Study Group.

In 2007, the Iraqi Security Forces Independent Assessment Commission was convened and it was chaired by Gen. James Jones and it evaluated Iraqi police and military to determine the first timetable of US forces handing off duties to Iraq.

In 2008, the Afghanistan Study Group was convened and it was co-chaired by Gen Jones and retired ambassador Pickering. It served to de-link Iraq and Afghanistan so that Iraq could be ramped down and Afghanistan could be ramped up.

In 2008, Bush hired Gen Jones as a Mid-East Envoy to oversee all this. Bush signed the SOFA agreement in 2008

In 2009, Obama hired Gen Jones as NSA who held that job until Iraq was ramped down and Afghanistan was ramped up.

As for you question as the whether the Iraqi govt can bind the US, I can only say that the US will try to conform to law, but I also realize that the NeoCons control the GOP and they contend that the US is the World hegemon, although events in Iraq and Afghanistan clearly demonstrate that the US is not the world hegemon.

27 posted on 06/13/2014 6:21:28 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: BCW

Well then great minds think alike, I shall need to check out this book on Amazon.


28 posted on 06/13/2014 6:30:06 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Ben Ficklin

Sorry, but part of me finds it hard to believe that it was that cut and dry. There is always SOMETHING that can be done or used as leverage. Methinks Obama was all too happy to get out of Iraq and thus didn’t push too hard. Can’t say I entirely blame him, but the events of the last year shouldn’t have been ignored.


29 posted on 06/13/2014 6:33:38 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
The fact that Obama is proposing a residual force of about 10,000 troops in Afghanistan implies that he supported a residual force in Iraq.

But the terms of a residual force in Afghanistan is clouded because nothing can be done until the new Afghan president is elected. If the new Afghan prez insists on legal authority over that residual force, we will leave completely.

The legal basis of the US retaining legal authority is found in the ICC UN Treaty, which we haven't ratified but abide by. Under that treaty, we have a right to prosecute the lawbreaker first.

30 posted on 06/13/2014 6:54:00 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: rbg81
As for your statement, "events of the last year shouldn't have been ignored", they weren't ignored.

Instead, the last event re-defined all the previous events. The fact that the much, much larger Iraqi Shia forces chose not to fight the much, much smaller Sunnis made it a whole new ballgame.

31 posted on 06/13/2014 7:02:20 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kackikat

...as you can see - I was either on a high dose of cough syrup or typing off my android...several typos!


32 posted on 06/13/2014 8:49:23 PM PDT by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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