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The IRS Loses Lerner's Emails
Wall Streeit Journal ^ | Wall Street Journal Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/14/2014 8:44:50 AM PDT by tedw

The IRS—remember those jaunty folks?—announced Friday that it can't find two years of emails from Lois Lerner to the Departments of Justice or Treasury. And none to the White House or Democrats on Capitol Hill. An agency spokesman blames a computer crash.

Never underestimate government incompetence, but how convenient. The former IRS Director of Exempt Organizations was at the center of the IRS targeting of conservative groups and still won't testify before Congress. Now we'll never know whose orders she was following, or what directions she was giving. If the Reagan White House had ever offered up this excuse, John Dingell would have held the entire government in contempt.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; bs; fascism; fascist; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsgagte; lerner; loislerner
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The IRS loses the emails which could prove the IRS was targeting Conservative groups. It is more than just "convenient".

What would happen to you if the IRS was auditing you and you conveniently lost your tax records?

This is something that Darrell Issa has the power to go after and should. Heads should roll.

Call Darrell Issa's office and ask then to pursue the lost email. If they can't get it from the sender they should go after the all the potential recepients: Holder et. al.

1 posted on 06/14/2014 8:44:50 AM PDT by tedw
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To: tedw

My dog ate it.


2 posted on 06/14/2014 8:46:01 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: tedw

If you claimed you lost your tax records they would file an arbitrary return for you and take everything you have. As David Brat said recently, “the government has a monopoly on violence.”


3 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:04 AM PDT by theoldmarine (Saved by grace through Faith)
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To: tedw

Somebody needs to go to prison for destroying these emails. A crime has been committed here.


4 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:23 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: tedw

Somewhere there is a record of the emails, unless everyone involved destroyed their hard drives.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:44 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: tedw

This is clearly obstruction, and it was ordered from the WH.

Another blatantly criminal act from a blatantly criminal regime.


6 posted on 06/14/2014 8:48:13 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: tedw

Agreed.

Dems absolutely appear to be “losing” her emails to cover something big up.

This is not just a distraction. In my opinion.


7 posted on 06/14/2014 8:49:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: tedw

8 posted on 06/14/2014 8:49:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tedw

You think I just tell ‘em I lost all those tax records when I had a computer crash?


9 posted on 06/14/2014 8:49:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tedw
Never underestimate government incompetence, but how convenient

Never underestimate government incompetence CORRUPTION, but how convenient

There, fixed it.

10 posted on 06/14/2014 8:49:38 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: tedw

Lois Lerner needs to go to jail along with whichever of her enablers are still there at the IRS drawing paychecks. After that there needs to be a house cleaning of every other federal agency.


11 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:00 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Huskrrrr

We are dealing with a bunch of arrogant misfits, who will play games until the last card is dealt and America closes it’s government doors, and is foreclosed upon by China and other lenders.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:08 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: tedw

Let’s lose their paychecks!


13 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: tedw

Lost e-mails? No problem. I’m sure the NSA has a copy. ;)


14 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:32 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: tedw

Gee, Mr. IRS auditor. The dog ate my receipts.


15 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:49 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Huskrrrr

Most of the kids at the mall can find them with their phones in a matter of minutes!


16 posted on 06/14/2014 8:50:55 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: mojito

The truth must be devastating to obama if he’s willing to make this ridiculous claim.


17 posted on 06/14/2014 8:52:01 AM PDT by Josa
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To: tedw

The problem with this excuse is that it makes them look even guiltier. Even the KOS clowns aren’t buying this crap. There are too many IT people in this country who can succinctly explain things like servers, redundancy, backups, offsite storage, and the fact that a so-called computer “crash” doesn’t cause one to lose emails, especially only certain ones - like those to the White House. Total joke.


18 posted on 06/14/2014 8:52:39 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: tedw

BS the IRS Commissioner testified last month that the emails were archived.


19 posted on 06/14/2014 8:53:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: tedw

A desperate lie to cover up something really bad. Everybody (except probably for high-ranking members of the eGOP) knows that these emails were backed up and saved in many, many places.


20 posted on 06/14/2014 8:53:41 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: Belteshazzar

I guess they will have to open up another closed military base if all the guilty IRS employees are rounded up.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 8:54:19 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: nhwingut

Even I, a lowly bit-wrangler, know that this is complete BS. They lie, and this is what they come up with?


22 posted on 06/14/2014 8:55:23 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: Josa

I think there’s something far more damning in the emails that what we’ve seen so far.


23 posted on 06/14/2014 8:55:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

A special Prosecuter could and would find them or people would sit in the can


24 posted on 06/14/2014 8:56:49 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: tedw

The WSJ prints this on a Saturday

A Saturday in the summer

It’s actually sat and sun together.

No one reads this


25 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:04 AM PDT by stanne
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To: tedw
This is so much BS it makes one's head almost explode!!!

First of all most email servers have multiple backups perhaps starting with a RAID 10 configuration, and secondly there is more than likely a snapshot taken weekly or on some frequency and stored elsewhere as an archive.

THIRDLY, Lois Learner was sending and receiving emails from Congress and other agencies, probably some private PACS. Is the Congress so stupid as to not go after the copy of Lois Learner's email that is residing on those NON-IRS servers? Just because the IRS server was wiped out (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL) the receipient of her email has a copy. GOOD GRIEF, even laymen can understand this.
26 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:07 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: tedw

The IRS scandal is the same stuff that Nixon was going to be impeached for.

The left wing media can’t risk the public understanding the parallel so they refuse to cover it.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:15 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Huskrrrr
Somewhere there is a record of the emails, unless everyone involved destroyed their hard drives.

I would love to hear from some forensic IT experts on this.

28 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:30 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Huskrrrr

Indeed.

Sender has record and the receiver as well.


29 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:59 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: tedw

Hold someone accountable! Until we stop letting these creeps hide behind their giant bureaucracy they will keep breaking the law until we have no law.


30 posted on 06/14/2014 8:58:27 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: tedw

Obama admin has gotten away with so much other illegal activities, they have every reason to believe this will work as well. Low info voters will easily believe emails can be “lost.”


31 posted on 06/14/2014 8:58:43 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: tedw

There is a criminal syndicate running the country. It is known as “The Obama Administration”.


32 posted on 06/14/2014 8:58:47 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Josa

My thoughts exactly. Why else go to such an extreme unless you are called out by name as engaging in criminal activity.


33 posted on 06/14/2014 8:59:04 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: tedw

They have them — they testified before the committee that they have them.

If they don’t have them now then several high level people need to go to jail.


34 posted on 06/14/2014 9:00:16 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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They didn’t lose the e-mails, they’re lying. I doubt Issa’s committee will do anything about it.


35 posted on 06/14/2014 9:01:39 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: tedw
This is a good thread to remind everyone that I'm the queen of England.

5.56mm

36 posted on 06/14/2014 9:01:52 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: tedw
important news like this...fades into obscurity when Nike Introduces...New Air Obamas

Email is OL SKOOL






37 posted on 06/14/2014 9:02:17 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Signalman

38 posted on 06/14/2014 9:02:25 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: Huskrrrr
My dog ate it.
39 posted on 06/14/2014 9:02:38 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: tedw
Nixon only lost 18 seconds of tape.
40 posted on 06/14/2014 9:02:59 AM PDT by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Somebody needs to go to prison for destroying these emails. A crime has been committed here.


The real crime was committed by Lerner and the rest of those involved at IRS, DOJ, FEC and FBI.

Destroying government documents of any type is a crime and destroying documents in a criminal investigation is obstruction of justice

What is very telling is that in the case if the Obama IRS Scandal, someone has made the calculation that the punishment for the crimes are going to be much much worse than the punishment for the cover up and the destruction of documents and the obstruction of justice.

This cover up as blatantly in your face as can be and it's obvious that they are openly and intentionally hiding or destroying evidence.

What they are trying to hide simply has to be about as bad as it can get for them to be doing what they are doing to prevent the truth from coming out.

Given the response, my bet is that the Republicans already have the emails from a whistle bower and they are just letting IRS and Holder dig themselves in deeper with the cover up

41 posted on 06/14/2014 9:03:34 AM PDT by rdcbn
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The truth must be devastating to obama if he’s willing to make this ridiculous claim.

The idea must have either originated with him or people close to him (aka ValJar), and supported wholeheartedly by him, with a ringing endorsement from Eric Holder.

42 posted on 06/14/2014 9:03:52 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: tedw

If a private company were to “lose” emails, people would go to prison.


43 posted on 06/14/2014 9:04:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: tedw

Come on, we have to stop giving credence to this. Everywhere I am reading people are saying: backups, redundency, etc.

EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS A LIE.

Where do we go from here, when there is not one word about it in the NY Times today?

Do we call? Who do we call, the WH, the Times, our reps, who?

This is a lie, everyone knows it, (I mean 100% of people know this is a lie, including Lois Lerner’s mother), so what happens next?


44 posted on 06/14/2014 9:04:30 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: tedw

The NSA’s got them. Subpoena the NSA.


45 posted on 06/14/2014 9:05:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: tedw

let’s get this straight. Darrell Issa is a JOKE and a BUFFOON. You don’t want him going after ANYTHING. He needs to be replaced. Now. I’ve had new Prosecutors fresh out of law school that look like Clarence Darrow compared to that idiot.

Understand this. This investigation is done. You can’t let the other side run out the clock. They have done so. Issa has blown it. Completely. Oh there will be the occasional trickle, but this needed to be jumped all over from the get go. But another grandstanding politician (Issa) has done us in.


46 posted on 06/14/2014 9:06:45 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: tedw

Reminiscent of Hillary misplacing the Rose Billing Records for several years — that mysteriously appeared in a box on a dining table in the Residence.

Will wonders ever cease?

Or Sandy Bergler’s misplacing official documents — in his socks.

Amazing.


47 posted on 06/14/2014 9:06:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: FourPeas

Classic pathway to defeat for the narcissistic sociopath.


48 posted on 06/14/2014 9:07:46 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: tedw
they lost all the daily backups too??? i think not...
49 posted on 06/14/2014 9:07:55 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: NEWwoman

Edward Snowden says ‘call me’.


50 posted on 06/14/2014 9:08:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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