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Newt Gingrich : 2014-06-18 : The IRS Scandal Just Got Much Worse
Newt Gingrich ^ | 2014-06-18 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 06/18/2014 6:26:29 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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June 18, 2014
Newt Gingrich



We are watching the most significant crisis of constitutional order since Watergate, the last time an administration broke the law deliberately and repeatedly. And none of the current cases look more Nixonian than what has been happening at the IRS.

Thirteen months ago, President Obama stood before the American people, acknowledged that the IRS had “improperly screened conservative groups,” and promised to get to the bottom of the matter and to “hold the responsible parties accountable.”

“It’s inexcusable,” he said, “and Americans are right to be angry about it, and I am angry about it. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the IRS, given the power that it has and the reach that it has into all of our lives…[T]he IRS has to operate with absolute integrity. The government generally has to conduct itself in a way that is true to the public trust. That’s especially true for the IRS.”

Americans might be forgiven for thinking their president actually meant to get to the bottom of the matter and hold the responsible parties accountable. But the administration’s conduct over the last year has proved that promise was just another lie.

By February, the president was already telling a very different story, saying on FOX News that there was “not even a smidgen of corruption” behind the IRS screenings.

He held to the line even after Bill O’Reilly gave him an out by suggesting that the corruption might have been contained to the Cincinnati office. Not even there, Obama said. Not a smidgen.

“What happened here,” the president now claimed, “is you have a 501(c)(4) law that people think is confusing. The folks did not know how to implement it.” The only reason “these kinds of things keep on surfacing,” he told O’Reilly, is “because you and your TV station will promote them.”

Is he even talking about the same events? Just months before, he’d fired the commissioner over the scandal.

He’d labeled as “inexcusable” the conduct described in the Inspector General’s report–the report that first revealed the targeting of conservative groups.

In other words, despite the president’s promises, the White House handled the corruption at the IRS the same way it has handled every other question about the administration: express outrage if required, pledge an investigation, stonewall until coverage fades, and then dismiss any allegations as baseless, politically motivated attacks by a right-wing fringe.

The dishonesty is galling.

That the news media falls for it boggles the mind. As Peggy Noonan points out in a recent column, it’s hard to find a reporter who believes there is an IRS scandal at all.

But even the media must have a hard time swallowing the explosive claim the IRS buried deep in a letter to Congress on Friday.

The agency says it has lost two years’ worth of email for seven key people allegedly involved in targeting conservative groups, including Lois Lerner, who ran the division overseeing tax-exempt organizations during the period in question.

The IRS is asking Congress and the American people to believe that the seven individuals’ computer hard drives all crashed during this critical period, that their emails were also lost from the from the server where they were stored, that all the backups of the seven computers and the servers have been destroyed, and that forensic techniques for recovering data from hard drives failed on all seven and the server.

Just as bad, Congress asked for “all” of Lerner’s more than a year ago, as the Wall Street Journal notes today.

It wasn’t until House investigators discovered, through other means, the emails Lerner sent to the Justice Department that they realized the IRS had not, in fact, turned over “all” of the emails. “Only after Congress demanded the IRS explain why it hadn’t provided this Lerner-Justice correspondence,” the Journal points out, “did the IRS suddenly confess in its Friday letter that it had been picking and choosing emails.”

The data-loss story is almost impossible to believe, and the IRS’s admission of missing emails only when caught elevates its already suspicious claims to Watergate levels of alarm–comparable, as others have pointed out, to the missing 18-and-a-half minutes on the Nixon tapes.

Where is the president who promised Americans more than a year ago “to hold the responsible parties accountable,” to “follow up on the IG report,” to “make sure we understand all the facts”?

Who promised that he would “not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the IRS”?

President Obama owes Americans an explanation as to why he looked the other way while the IRS continued its evasion and dishonesty. And he owes us something else, too.

The administration has had its chance to cooperate with the investigation in good faith. It’s time for a special prosecutor.


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"We have to frankly break the back of the secular-socialist machine, elect people committed to representing the American people, and then methodically rip the system apart."

~Newt Gingrich, 2012




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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brilliant; coverup; email; emails; gingrich; irs; lehner; lerner; loislerner; newt; newtgingrich; obama
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1 posted on 06/18/2014 6:26:29 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Obviously Obama gave the orders and that’s why the emails were disappeared.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 6:29:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
rip the system apart

I believe it can be done without undue cruelty, but I do not think most people realize the true enormity of what must be changed. The country needs to be vastly different if we are to have any hope at all. As a start -- a bare start -- the federal budget should be cut in half. Not over night ... but not "over the next 50 years" either: because we all know that stuff never happens. They need 10% annual cuts in every freaking budget. Year after year after year.

4 posted on 06/18/2014 6:34:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

BUMP


5 posted on 06/18/2014 6:36:00 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Jack Hammer
“We are watching the most significant crisis of constitutional order since Watergate...”

There is no comparison between Obama and Nixon.

Nixon was an American Patriot trying to stop the takeover of the country by the Marxists.

Obama is the spawn of those Marxists.

6 posted on 06/18/2014 6:36:59 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Jim Robinson
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Jim,


I have a theory.

Sure, there are some damaging e-mails that were deleted.

But the possibility exists that many thousands of meaningless e-mails were deleted, especially when Lehrner and her six (6) colleagues are considered.

What if Eric Cantor allows these "harmless" e-mails to be released, after months and months of Congressional investigations ?

The purpose would be to embarrass the Republicans (Tea Party), immediately before the Nov-2014 Mid-term elections.

I know the e-mails are important.

I also know that if "I" had committed felonies and perjury, the FBI-NSA (whoever) would NOT-NOT-NOT have to depend exclusively upon my e-mail traffic.



Is it possible that John Boehner has promised Darryl Issa the House Speakership in exchange for a carnival-circus style IRS investigation ?


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7 posted on 06/18/2014 6:38:12 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: oldbrowser

Agreed.


8 posted on 06/18/2014 6:38:31 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Newtie speaks one way, but his heart is otherwise.


9 posted on 06/18/2014 6:41:01 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: oldbrowser

Nixon was a Patriot to some extent but his view of the American people as liberal to the core impacted his policies.


10 posted on 06/18/2014 6:42:10 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
In other words, despite the president’s promises, the White House handled the corruption at the IRS the same way it has handled every other question about the administration: express outrage if required, pledge an investigation, stonewall until coverage fades, and then dismiss any allegations as baseless, politically motivated attacks by a right-wing fringe.

The dishonesty is galling.

That the news media falls for it boggles the mind.

The news media didn't 'fall for it'... the MSM's high level sources are democrats. When the coin of the realm is information, a bribe comes in the form of 'a well placed tip'...

11 posted on 06/18/2014 6:45:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: ClearCase_guy
rip the system apart

RIP THEIR THROATS OUT AND FEED THEM TO VULTURES!

Yes, I hate them that much.

F U B O!

12 posted on 06/18/2014 6:47:52 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Theodore R.
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Have you ever met Newt Gingrich personally, spoke with him, and listened (in first person) to his passioned and brilliant defense of American freedoms, liberties and history.

Have you ever read any of Newt Gingrich's many books ?

I have.

For you, however, I think perhaps not.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, until you have ...



Best Regards,

Patton-at-Bastogne









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13 posted on 06/18/2014 6:51:22 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Zacta Mundo Friend. ...


14 posted on 06/18/2014 6:53:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Bttt.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 6:57:14 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Newt was the one candidate with the best chance of beating Obama in 2012, had the GOP not torn him down.


16 posted on 06/18/2014 7:10:13 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Right on, friend.


17 posted on 06/18/2014 7:10:15 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: ClearCase_guy

Eliminate base line budgeting...

Cut all departments 10% in year 1 and decrease 10% thereafter until department is gone except for those that are constitutionally authorized...

Pass a budget in the house and senate BEFORE ANYONE in Washington is paid including congressional staffers...

Allocate at LEAST 10% of the budget for debt reduction...

That’s a start...


18 posted on 06/18/2014 7:13:31 PM PDT by bfh333 ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Newt is awesome!


19 posted on 06/18/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t believe we have the time to go through any sort of an impeachment process at this point. Isn’t there some way the 2012 election could simply be declared null/void at this point due to fraud and this weaponization of the IRS being a factor in the election?


20 posted on 06/18/2014 7:14:49 PM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
The administration has had its chance to cooperate with the investigation in good faith. It’s time for a special prosecutor.

Holder will NEVER appoint a special prosecutor and if he changes his mind it will be a communists criminal. Nothing can stop this communists empire.

21 posted on 06/18/2014 7:19:08 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Patton@Bastogne

-— Americans might be forgiven for thinking their president actually meant to get to the bottom of the matter -—

At this point, I’m out of forgiveness.

And Newt’s right. This is comparable to the infamous 18 minute gap, except that, at age 11, I can remember it. Whereas, today, I doubt any 11-year-old has heard of the missing e-mails.


22 posted on 06/18/2014 7:21:37 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Everyone’s talking about impeachment. Would someone f-ing do it?!


23 posted on 06/18/2014 7:21:38 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Well Newt is right of course but raise your hand if you believe we will ever see a special prosecutor for any of these scandals.


24 posted on 06/18/2014 7:21:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bfh333

That’s good.


25 posted on 06/18/2014 7:22:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

The rule of law has passed. We are Venezuela.


26 posted on 06/18/2014 7:23:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
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Yep ...

that's Newt Gingrich (architect of the historic Contract for America and capturing the House after forty (40) years of Democratic rule) ...

and Nancy Pelosi (a historic figure as first woman Speaker of the House, albeit an idiot) ...

sharing a photo-op, discussing, of all subjects, "Global Warming".



Newt's critics have a field day with this 2008 photograph, totally IGNORANT of Newt Gingrich's later confession that ...

"it was the dumbest thing I've done in recent years."



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Newt's critics then attack his 2008 remarks about Global Warming ...

again, IGNORANT of the circumstances involved

and how New Gingrich (along with the rest of America) was DECIEVED by the SCIENTIFIC LIES about Global Warming.



Let's have some straight talk about Newt Gingrich's so-called "endorsement" of Global Warming ...


First, assuming you're old enough Battle Hymn (i.e. experienced, intelligent) you'll agree that, for the most part, scientists' word (especially in published journals) has for decades been very respected.

Right ?

Remember those days, Beaver ?

Even into the 1970's (unless you were still in diaper-land) scientists were assumed to be honest.

Enter the Hillary Clinton "hippie quasi-Marxist generation", especially as they were graduating with all those PhD and masters degrees in the 1980s.

For some of these "intellectual scoundrels" all that mattered was ideology.

Period.

These folks were the kind (like the University of East Anglia fraudsters) who even FAKED the DATA ... just to advance their Socialist Agenda.



Now, I'm a college-degree Mechanical Engineer who's always been interested in the sciences.

And even when the "Man Made Global Warming Data" was being FALSIFIED for years and years, and then PUBLISHED "as fact" in the leading scientific journals, how could even a "smart educated guy" like me (/sarcasm-off) known that the data and findings were RUBBISH ?

I had neither the "correct data" or access to the "inner scientific circle" to have even known that the Global Warming Data was poppycock.



Now ... what's you technical background, Battle Hymn ?

Do you have a college degree ? What subject ?

Let's presume that you do, and that it's in "climatology".

Let's next presume (a wild guess) that you have access to ALL of the correct temperature data (you copied it to a 5.25-inch floppy disk before the bad guys erased it on the VAX mainframe).

Now ... let's further assume (really wild here) that you have COMPLETE and FREE access to all of the NASA supercomputers that the "bad guys" used in their Bravo Sierra climate computer models.

Finally ... let's assume you've discovered the TRUTH about the GLOBAL WARMING LIE.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!

Now ... go get that news story published.

I'm certain (/sarcasm-off) that CNN, The New York Times, Newsweak, The Economist and Rolling Stone will start a million-dollar bidding war over your new revelation.

Right ?

Unfortunately (as you already know) ... wrong ... wrong ... wrong.

Your GREAT news story about the GLOBAL WARMING LIE gets pigeon-holed.

For ever, or until Rush Limbaugh gets a hold of it.



That was rather a long, sad story, wasn't it ?

What exactly does it have to do with Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi making a joint statement about GLOBAL WARMING ... in 2008 ... 2008 ... 2008?

Newt Gingrich assumed that the respective scientists were HONEST and TRUTHFUL.



And what did Newt Gingrich say in 2011 ... AFTER THE FRAUDULANT SCIENTIFIC DATA was discovered ... that his Global Warming statement with Nancy Pelosi ...

"was the dumbest thing I've done in recent years."




How could Newt Gingrich (being a non-technical person) known the difference ?

How could Battle Hymn (being a non-technical person) known the difference ?

How could Patton-at-Bastogne (being a TECHNICAL person) known the difference ?



Battle Hymn, you and Newt and I would ALL been buffaloed by the bravo-sierra data.

So how (being the reasonable man I presume you are) can you make fun of Newt Gingrich for thinking GLOBAL WARMING ...

when YOU would have been BUFFALOED like Newt Gingrich ...

as well as me, too ?



Best Regards,

Patton-at-Bastogne (Free Republic member since 1998)




Meanwhile, take a look at what Rush Limbaugh had to say about the Global Warming Fraud ....


RUSH: You know, there are all kinds of left-wing publications and individuals, folks, who are beside themselves over global warming.

I have an entire Stack of Stuff today on this.

From the Australian newspaper: "Twenty-Year Hiatus in Rising Temperatures Has Climate Scientists Puzzled," and they are all citing a magazine article in The Economist.

"In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity -- the way climate reacts to changes in carbon dioxide levels -- would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded."

Because this story indicates that carbon in the atmosphere may actually be making things cooler, not warmer.

They are beside themselves with rage and anger and frustration in the global warming community, which we know is a hoax now.

That continues to be something that's utterly laughable to me.

We know by virtue of released e-mails from the University of East Anglia in the UK that the whole thing -- the manmade global warming program -- is a hoax.

It's a political hoax.

I realize there are some people who haven't heard this. We have new listeners tuning in each and every day, and I realize that many of you new arrivals here think that global warming is the law of the land.

You've never questioned it, and you think it's happening. Global warming is as real as the sun coming up.

Considering the alternative is impossible, and you believe that people who don't believe in it are literal kooks.

I want to tell you new arrivals about this -- and I know you low-information people are here in increasing numbers each and every day.


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27 posted on 06/18/2014 7:32:11 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Thanks for bringing Newt’s words to us.


28 posted on 06/18/2014 7:32:22 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Bump


29 posted on 06/18/2014 7:35:59 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Graewoulf
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You're welcome.


Newt has a great regular e-newsletter.


Check it out here:

http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2012/08/sign-up-for-our-newsletter/


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30 posted on 06/18/2014 7:37:26 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Thanks for the addy!

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Ponder this:

Here is an interesting comparison of two Dictators when losing became obvious and inevitable:

* Hitler’s Fast tracking of Death Camps and

* Obama’s Fast flooding of Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico.

IMHO: both Dictators saw their fast actions efforts as THE FINAL SOLUTION.

For Hitler, The Final Solution was for the destruction of the Jewish population.

For Obama, the Final Solution was for the destruction of the core values of America.

Hitler had his “Peace in our Time” Neville Chamberlain.

Obama had and still has his rubber-stamp, Speaker Boehner.


31 posted on 06/18/2014 7:43:05 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Under the IRS rules, you are guilty until proven innocent. Lacking documentation they assume the absolute worst case scenario and nail you accordingly.

Every single person in the IRS or Obama regime that had knowledge of this should be judged accordingly. They need to be made destitute for 3 generations. They need to live in dumpsters for the rest of their lives.

32 posted on 06/18/2014 7:44:11 PM PDT by Clay Moore (I Like My Guns Like Obama Likes His Voters: Undocumented)
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To: Rennes Templar

The problem with it is 1) It will unite every democrat to get behind the one, and 2) They couldn’t get the Senate to go along with it.


33 posted on 06/18/2014 8:03:18 PM PDT by theyreallthesame
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Come on, Newt. Stumping my big toe is a bigger deal than Watergate. What this admin is doing is astonomical.


34 posted on 06/18/2014 8:33:13 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Bump


35 posted on 06/18/2014 8:36:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Logical me

I don’t understand why Congress can’t get Holder out of there. I suppose they need a majority in the Senate. I suppose they need gonads to do it and we know those are non-existent.


36 posted on 06/18/2014 8:52:35 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Patton@Bastogne

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/06/14/the-mysterious-missing-irs-e-mail-story-grows-while-it-is-being-debunked-mark-levin-and-sharyl-attkisson/


37 posted on 06/18/2014 8:54:46 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Patton@Bastogne

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/16/wake_up_lois_lerner_s_e_mails_aren_t_lost

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Why are we just hearing about this now? But these e-mails would have been on other servers and other computers that did not crash. So we have here a classic late Friday evening news dump, and the IRS is claiming they can’t locate many of her e-mails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed during the summer of that year, which is preposterous. The Regime may not know that I know this, but since the Eisenhower administration, every federal agency’s required to have a Continuity of Operations Plan. COOP is the acronym. And the COOP plan requires that they make and store duplicates of everything. These duplicates are maintained in another safe location in the event records are destroyed by fire or natural disaster or nuclear attack.


38 posted on 06/18/2014 8:56:08 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Patton@Bastogne
"It’s time for a special prosecutor."

Go Newt!

39 posted on 06/18/2014 9:27:26 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Jack Hammer

At least with Biden in charge he’d be held accountable for any criminal action because he is white. Currently, the WH is LAWLESS.


40 posted on 06/18/2014 9:56:42 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: theyreallthesame

Doesn’t matter. They have to start the process.


41 posted on 06/18/2014 10:06:36 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Obviously Obama gave the orders and that’s why the emails were disappeared.

Assuming that were true, hypothetically, one suspects that there could many involved, and many, many more who know and have good info;

... any of whom who just might want to flip from a sudden attack of conscience, or while the flipping's worth a bargain.

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42 posted on 06/18/2014 10:12:05 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Newt misses the big picture. With the IRS so intertwined in everyone’s lives the there is no way to stop the corruption. The problem is having an organization like the IRS in the first place. The tax system needs to change so that the IRS is not involved in the day to day activities of the citizens of the United States. The income tax needs to be repealed and the whole structure of the IRS needs to be overhauled. That way it can’t become a tool of an evil president ever.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 1:43:20 AM PDT by stig
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Newt may have had his warts but I’d trade him for almost any other current Republican.


44 posted on 06/19/2014 2:19:07 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
The fact of the Watergate cover-up is not nearly as interesting as the step into making the cover-up. And when you understand the step, you understand that Richard Nixon lied. That he was a criminal. - Bob Woodward

Where's Bob Woodward today?

45 posted on 06/19/2014 2:23:32 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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46 posted on 06/19/2014 2:25:19 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Yes, you’re right.


47 posted on 06/19/2014 3:01:29 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Patton@Bastogne

not positive but I most probably agree with what post number 3 said but was deleated.


48 posted on 06/19/2014 3:12:54 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Graewoulf

“Here is an interesting comparison of two Dictators when losing became obvious and inevitable:”

They both started as “community organizers”, going out and convincing people their financial problems were caused by another race. Hitler demonized Jews, the US negro nazi party disparages whites.

See my tagline.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 4:55:27 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
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You're right.

The $ 10,000 question if whether Darryl Issa has the balls to call a press conference and mention "COOP", "Obama", "Eric Holder", "Impeachment" and "Federal Prison" in the same sentence ...

giving them one week (7 days) to produce the data ...

while Issa shows his House Bill for impeaching both Obama and Holder in his hands.



I know that there are many theories about impeaching Obama; but damn !

Sooner or later Congress must stop this Kenyan Tyrannt.

Period.




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50 posted on 06/19/2014 5:08:39 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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