Posted on 06/20/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by airedale
We know that Lois Lerner' s computer crashed at some time and per this morning it was just before "she learned of the rogue agents in Cincinnati." Since she was a fairly high level employee whose job required travel did she have a laptop? The way they describe their email system (not the way most systems work) not only would the desktop which crashed have a complete copy of all e-mails both incoming and outgoing so would the laptop. If she did have a laptop did it crash as well; did the agency give it to another employee at some point after wiping the hard drive? Did they dispose of it?
In relation to letters/subpoenas from Congress when did the agency dispose of the hard drive? Who specifically handled it and authorized its disposal? Same with the laptop if it isn't available.
While the emails may be missing aren't there records of what emails were sent and received by Lerner including who sent them?
Since her computer supposedly crashed and theY couldn't restore all of the emails, but keep 6months of backup did they restore from those backup tapes? Where in the schedule of the backup was the IRS? If it happened in the 5th month of the cycle they would have the current 5 months plus the prior 6 months on the backup tape. Have those emails been provided since they would cover a critical period. If it occurred in the 1st month of a cycle they'd have that month plus the last 6 months. So you should have had the last 7-11 months of emails before the crash that they would have been able to restlessness normal conditions. If the didn't why not and who made that decision and who approved it. They would need to be questioned under oath.
One problem is it’s the IRS. Much of their information cannot be released to people outside the agency and it’s a federal felony to disclose it. That allows them to hide as much as they want. It would be a very high wall to climb and you know the IRS would retaliate in the future.
The Committee needs to find out; Was it Lois Lerner who logged into her account and deleted her stuff, or WAS IT SOMEONE ELSE IN THE IRS WHO LOGGED INTO HER ACCOUNT AND DID A MASSIVE WIPE OF ALL OF HER DATA????
What about her private, off-the-record email accounts?
Richard Windsor, aka Lisa Jackson, had to resign when she was caught doing just this
missing ping
Never heard that. Where did you find that out.
How can an agency that keeps such close track on Americans have such funky e-mail system. Not possible.
"She’s got a lot of erasing to do. Not only hit delete but make changes and leave it on the computer or hit delete, then delete the delete. It takes big bucks to do this right."
How prophetic, huh?
Timing is everything. When did this “crash” occur in relation to Lois’ initial mea culpa disclosure of IRS targeting? It was at some breakfast or luncheon or something...
I’m not very tech-savvy with computers but I have used an Outlook e-mail system.
You guys who do know what you are doing—are you saying that this stinks because (in a nutshell maybe) because losing your screen-display messages could happen, but to `lose’ the saved e-mails would have to be intentional?
Not to be Captain Obvious, I really don’t know. But if this is the case, I think we’re looking at least at obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence.
And I’m sure there are a couple dozen federal rules and regulations violated here as well.
The infernal revenooers would probably jump at the chance to let it go at that.
Computer Access Not Restricted, Lerner Continues to Log In to IRS System
I'll betcha someone ELSE was logging into her username, for the purpose of deleting her stuff. The committee needs to find out WHO THIS PERSON IS.. I don't think Lois Lerner is tech savvy enough to permanently delete stuff, SO IT WOULD BE AN 'IT' OR SOFTWARE TYPE WHO WAS ASSIGNED THE MISSION.
The Committee should also authorize a subpoena to access all the smart Copiers in the various IRS offices ... Modern devices keep records of all copies on an internal hard drive, usually for as long as there is disk space. You hear all the time when these units are “recycled” that the owners failed to purge (typically valuable) information, and I wouldn’t be surprised if this were a treasure trove for the investigation.
They were covered by the House and Senate letters/subpoenas in generic John/Jane Doe fashion, but to know if has
been turned over you need the name of the account. If it was a fake IRS employee’s name it’s probably gone based on the IRS’ s claimed operation of the system unless she used another computer that she no longer has access to and has been preserved. If it’s a Gmail or similar account you need the account n and and need to subpoena the email account company. Those should still be there unless it’s one that is designed to hide things and doesn’t retain them. If it’s one of the ones you use to hide things it would show intent, but good luck on getting them. They should still be available on the computers/servers of who ever received them.
After Lois Lerner’s hard drive crash why wasn’t the emails and information restored to her new hard drive from the server?
This is the first time in history that a person AND THEIR EMAILS have pleaded the 5th in front of Congress. If Congress doesn’t drop the hammer on Lerner and other IRS officials like POS Koskinen, OTHER AGENCIES WILL START ‘LOSING THEIR EMAILS’ AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
Of course she did.She also had an Andoid,an iPhone and an iPad.But,as luck would have it they've all "crashed" and they've all been "recycled".
Of course she did. How dumb do they think people are? Seh was in the loop and everyone knows it. She should be sitting in a 8x12 cell to rot.
The NSA has it all.
One would think with their ability to keep all my financial data secure on their system they surely can keep their eMail secure. /s
Bingo, the IRS commissioner was claiming a failure rate of anywhere from 5 to 16% of their hard drives crash, and they had no backup copies of the those drives.
They have to, are required to have a disaster recovery plan whereas they can restore data if totally wiped out. Where’s the plan and where’s the data?
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