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WMDs in Iraq discovered?
ijreview ^ | 6-20-14 | Kyle Becker

Posted on 06/20/2014 3:02:57 PM PDT by tpanther

The Iraq War is supposed to be “ended,” or so the administration claimed, but the heavily armed “terrorist army” ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham) is rampaging through Iraq and has taken control of a chemical weapons complex. The Telegraph reports:

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

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Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

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The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

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So this is the 2nd source I've seen this week. NOT A PEEP ON NEWS though. Not even Fox...WTF? "Not military grade? Yet can't safely be moved?" HUH?
1 posted on 06/20/2014 3:02:58 PM PDT by tpanther
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To: tpanther

WMD’s in Iraq? No way. All the libs say it was a lie.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 3:06:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: tpanther; Fred Nerks

WMDs in Iraq You mean the Russians actually left some behinf instead of hauling them to Syria, like was done with most of them.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 3:07:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: tpanther

Because there were no WMDs. LibTards are not alone in saying this one is BS. It is.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 3:07:32 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: tpanther

It’s actually sort of hillarious in a tragi-comic way. The very WMD’s that GW Bush “lied” about, are now talked about in a matter-of-fact way by the media since the ISIS group now controls them. My sides are hurting.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 3:07:53 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: tpanther

If there were WMD/chemical weapons there why didn’t we get rid of them while WE had control of the facility for, I don’t know, the past 10 years or so?

I’m calling BS on this.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 3:15:34 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hate to admit it Jim, but there are a lot of folks here to have trashed Bush non-stop for over a decade based on the absence of WMDs in Iraq.

The consensus was that those WMDs did exist. Europe, the U.N., Democrats in the United States, Members of the Senate and House, the President, the military advisers, the CIA, they all those those WMDs existed.

Finally, they’ve been found.

There was a reason to go into Iraq after all. Who knew?


7 posted on 06/20/2014 3:15:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Lorianne

Actually, if some of the old guard in Iraq defected to Syria, because the sheriff was coming to town, they could have stored those things away on the trip.

We always suspected those things went to Syria. Perhaps they only went part of the way to Syria. Or perhaps these guys are bringing things back in from Syria.

I have no doubt they existed. And it’s entirely possible nobody would tell our troops, because the folks who know where the WMDs were, had fled into Iraq.

I don’t think this is BS. I think there’s something to it, and if there is, I certainly don’t want it in the hands of terrorists.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 3:18:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: tpanther

Here’s the stink from what I can gather. The facility is called Al Muthanna. After UNSCOM failed to destroy the chemicals there during the 1980s, Saddam used chemicals manufactured there to kill civilian targets. In the 90s, the facility was heavily damaged during the war, in which it was a target for US bombing campaigns.
The facility was subsequently sealed off and remained thus throughout the invasion in the 00s. It was simply too dangerous to operate. Because of this, the suspected WMDs were not believed to have been manufactured or housed in this facility. It was abandoned and entrances were blocked off. Despite this, there were sporadic reports of looters who had found a way into the facility.

During US occupation, the military made the decision that it was safer to leave the chemical weapons buried in the unstable environment than attempt to move them, which would have been a monumental and expensive task. Supposedly, both UN and ISG inspected the facility to the best of their ability, however this was likely incomplete because it sprawls over 10 square miles, with underground laboratories. The interior is highly hazardous for humans to enter.

Now that we are aware that members of Saddam’s Baathist military command, including al-Douri, are helping ISIS to topple the Shi’ite government, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they are aware of how to access a deeper sub-level of the complex where less degraded weapons could be available. Even degraded amounts of VX are highly effective regardless. I very much doubt they hit this place by accident.

The idea that these terrorists cannot use these chemicals unless they are ‘military grade’ (which means they are safe for weaponization and use) is lunacy.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 3:20:21 PM PDT by Viennacon (Liberals are like vomit in a lot of ways)
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What am I missing? Once upon a time US military was all over that place like stink on doo doo, and yet these neanderthal’s of Islam take over a known chemical weapons factory with a cache of poison sitting there since Hussein’s time!?

Sounds like BS to me.


10 posted on 06/20/2014 3:20:47 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

I don’t know. See post #9 just above yours.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 3:23:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Viennacon; rockinqsranch

bump


12 posted on 06/20/2014 3:24:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Viennacon

I had a theory years ago about this. Search FR for, “WMDs = Cheese”


13 posted on 06/20/2014 3:30:09 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

If your house is said to have no termites in it and then termites are found there, you don’t say “This can’t be true because my house has no termites.”


14 posted on 06/20/2014 3:35:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Jim Robinson

Another democrat lie comes back to bite them in the ass. Maybe the ISIS terrorists can provide a practical demonstration of the WMDs to lurch, close up and personal.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 3:35:33 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Jim Robinson; Viennacon

Thanks for that Viennacon, and for calling post #9 to my attention Jim.

Viennacon’s information appears thorough, and complete, but I still cannot comprehend how any American leader military, or Political of that era could screwup the works leaving such a cache as described with even limited access by anyone much less a warring people known for their lack of respect for life. It boggles the mind, costs be damned.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 3:36:54 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RJS1950

Maybe some VX in the Heinz beans


17 posted on 06/20/2014 3:37:20 PM PDT by Viennacon (Liberals are like vomit in a lot of ways)
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To: Viennacon

This makes sense, but do you have a source?


18 posted on 06/20/2014 3:40:22 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Viennacon

That would do.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 3:43:54 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: tpanther

What makes you think fox would cover the issue?They are anything but conservative.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 3:45:40 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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