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How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
POLITICO Magazine ^ | May 19, 2014 | Michael Waldman

Posted on 06/21/2014 9:04:11 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: ForYourChildren
Many are startled to learn that the U.S. Supreme Court didn’t rule that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller struck down the capital’s law effectively banning handguns in the home.

Even more are startled that SCOTUS had to rule on something the Constitution makes absolutely clear....

81 posted on 06/22/2014 4:04:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ForYourChildren; All

The “progressives” invented the who “collective rights” argument in Kansas in 1905:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-collectivist-right-interpretation.html


82 posted on 06/22/2014 4:23:50 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ForYourChildren
The Founders never intended to create an unregulated individual right to a gun.

James Madison says otherwise in Federalist #46, and he should know.

83 posted on 06/22/2014 4:31:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: marktwain

who “collective rights” argument

should be

whole “collective rights” argument


84 posted on 06/22/2014 4:34:00 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: clintonh8r

Warren Burger once appeared on the cover of Parade magazine holding up an 18th century flintlock musket.

He declared that since this muzzleloader was all there was in firearms technology when the Constitution & Bill of Rights were ratified, then the Second Amendment guaranteed citizens the right to own a flintlock musket AND NOTHING ELSE!

Idiot.......


85 posted on 06/22/2014 4:45:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ForYourChildren

Propagandico strikes again.


86 posted on 06/22/2014 4:59:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Michael Waldman IS pimping a book, an anti-constitutional toilet-confetti tome that even the Washington Post panned.

Waldman actually has the brass clackers to deride Laurence Tribe, among other respected historians and lawyers.

This motherhugger, Waldman, is the very definition of an asshat, and richly deserves the fruit of our gun culture.

87 posted on 06/22/2014 5:07:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Might be good if this “writer” was to read Blackstone’s comments on the US constitution. PRE-Civil War era.

Even the SCOTUS declared(Dred Scott vs Stanford)that one of the rights freed slaves would have was “The right to go about armed wherever they went.”


88 posted on 06/22/2014 5:14:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Sigh...the 2nd Amendment doesn’t me give me any “rights”, because governments don’t bestow “rights”. The 2nd Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Right, is meant to restrict the government from infringing on our inalienable rights.

If a government gives...it can also take away. This was the genius of the founding Fathers.


89 posted on 06/22/2014 5:15:07 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: GeronL
Private citizens even owned "ASSAULT PLOWS" back then.


90 posted on 06/22/2014 5:17:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: sourcery

***The Court interpreted the Second Amendment as protecting an individual right to keep and bear military grade firearms,***

And in 1970, the anti-gunners discovered MILLER all over again and wrote many TV scripts using MILLER to “prove” that RIFLES WERE OK, HANDGUNS WERE NOT!
The show I remember about this was ALL IN THE FAMILY in which Archie goes on TV to defend handguns just before he is robbed. Meathead brings up the Miller decision as proof rifles good, handguns bad.

BARNY MILLER also had such an anti-handgun segment along with many other shows of the 1970s.


91 posted on 06/22/2014 5:24:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: SampleMan

“Some days civil war seems inevitable.”

Indeed. Such a tragedy. And tragedy is EXACTLY what it is.


92 posted on 06/22/2014 5:27:22 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Warren Burger a rock-ribbed conservative? Is the author daft?


93 posted on 06/22/2014 5:29:13 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: elcid1970

I read that PARADE article and wondered where he got his license to practice law. A Cracker Jack box?


94 posted on 06/22/2014 5:29:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: SpaceBar

There is nothing underpowered about a .38 Special. It’s all a question of relativity. Yes, it is less powerful than a .44 mag, but is more powerful than a .25 ACP. However, all three will kill if you do your part. It is not the fault of the cartridge.


95 posted on 06/22/2014 5:35:08 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Sivad

“The 2nd A is not about militias having access to weapons but, rather, armed private citizens having the ability
to establish militias.”

EXACTLY!!!


96 posted on 06/22/2014 5:36:37 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Fortunately, the Founders were wise to include three other Amendments that protect gun ownership (though granted, if big brother doesn’t care about one, it won’t care about any of the others):

The Fifth Amendment, which protects against loss of life, liberty and/or property without due process. Meaning that those of us who already own firearms can’t be made to give them up without being charged with an actual crime (and I’m willing to bet any law outright banning them will be challenged successfully, as such a law would open the door to the government being able to ban any piece of property it wants, such as your home).

The Tenth Amendment, which speaks for itself...though it also holds the record of being the most violated.

The Ninth Amendment also helps.

At the very least, the gun grabbers won’t ever be able to just say “Da second Amendment don’t protect individual gun ownership, so hand dem ober”. They’ll have to get around several others, and they won’t be as easy to ignore since doing so endangers more than just gun ownership.


97 posted on 06/22/2014 5:38:50 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Jagdgewehr

I agreed with the earlier poster. But you rightly point out how the reasons for separation persist.

At my last few visits to the range, I have noticed a sense of urgency. And people’s choice of weapons, their accoutrement (optics, sights, furniture), targets and shooting scenarios (such as you can have at a public range), are not hunters preparing for the up coming season. Something is brewing and has been for some time.


98 posted on 06/22/2014 5:45:21 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Sivad

I’ve read it...

Interesting on how the left has managed to demonize militias too...


99 posted on 06/22/2014 5:50:26 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: nonsporting

The obvious increase in citizens buying up firearms and ammo is not a citizenry that is doing so because it fears a ban on those items; rather, it is a citizenry preparing for armed conflict and war.


100 posted on 06/22/2014 5:58:28 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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