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Florida governor signs five pro-gun measures into law, including ‘Pop Tart’ and ‘Warning Shot’ bills
Guns.com ^ | 6/21/14 | Chris Eger

Posted on 06/22/2014 5:34:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Gov. Rick Scott approved several pro-gun bills Friday that covered everything from clarifying use of force to ending insurance discrimination against gun owners.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: guns
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To: SoFloFreeper

But Biden already said two shotgun shots in the air were ok and enough to frighten off an intruder...


41 posted on 06/22/2014 6:59:14 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: Guenevere

I believe in doing what is right, but getting myself to do the right thing is a challenge.

As for politics, I participate, but I participate with open eyes and I don’t like what I see and I will act accordingly voting Third Party and write-ins if I feel that is the right thing to do.


42 posted on 06/22/2014 7:00:43 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

The GOP seems to be in an awkward state right now. Not quite bad enough to repudiate as a whole for something else. Not quite good enough to satisfy for the moment.

But maybe we were wrong to be satisfied with any politician ever, and God let this become obvious. We should have kept an eternal point of view in mind and always, always asked God to make better what is lacking, knowing this will never produce a utopia (this is but a temporary world) but ever desiring and striving that “Thy kingdom come.”

I am not asking to euphemize or pretend problems away. I am asking to put the problems and the prospective reactions in proper perspective. An ounce of prayer does more good than a ton of carping.

And at the top of that Constitution what does it say... We The People. That’s who has to be willing to desire the improvement to the point of putting legs to the desire.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 7:07:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Virginia is very clear on this. If you brandish, you had better be able to shoot. If no immenent threat, then keep it holstered.

Unfortunately, a guy got convicted of brandishing for shifting his gun from his holster to his glove box. It’s still on appeal, but in the meantime, he’s had his CHP suspended. A bogus decision, as he never pointed it at the bus driver who complained, but still on his record.


44 posted on 06/22/2014 7:24:48 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is the governor planning to pardon Marissa Alexander?

I gather the wacko prosecutor, Angela Corey, the same one that prosecuted Zimmerman, is trying to refile charges against Alexander, in that she was unsatisfied that Alexander *only* got 20 years. Corey wants her to have to serve 60 years!

Corey obviously needs to be fired. She’s nuts.


45 posted on 06/22/2014 8:06:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Is the governor planning to pardon Marissa Alexander? I gather the wacko prosecutor, Angela Corey, the same one that prosecuted Zimmerman, is trying to refile charges against Alexander, in that she was unsatisfied that Alexander *only* got 20 years. Corey wants her to have to serve 60 years!

See my #28, and the link therein. The media hype is "she only fired a warning shot". The reality is her bullet narrowly missed his head, making it more likely she just missed and then claimed "I was only doing a warning shot".

46 posted on 06/22/2014 8:22:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dirtboy

Due to lack of ammunition we have stopped firing warning shots. :-)


47 posted on 06/22/2014 8:43:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

shows for shots, aggregated for aggravated... I thought I had proof read that. No more posting from the smartphone - it “helps” too much.


48 posted on 06/22/2014 9:12:52 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Still, the question remains, is that enough for a 20 year sentence in prison, much less the 60 years that the prosecutor now wants?

I remember reading in the specifics of the case that yes, she did seem to be carrying out an act of domestic violence with threatening. But typically that rates as a serious misdemeanor or low grade felony.


49 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think it sums up government nicely when government has to pass laws telling people who work for the government that a pop-tart isn’t a gun.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: mazda77

>>If he is threatening the children who are still in the room with him?

The child was in another room...in the direction she fired her “warning shot”. That was one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.


51 posted on 06/22/2014 10:32:19 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Back from church.....and I agree.

Gog IS sovereign in all things.......

It really IS difficult to convey thoughts over the internet....

I am totally at one with God’s providence.....
But my heart mourns for the
America that was......the America our forefathers fought and died for, and our military continues to sacrifice for.

I thank Him always for His tender mercies.......and pray those mercies for our country.
We are underserving.......corporately we have turned a blind eye on the deaths of 50 million babies.

But He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy.
So I continue to petition, beseech and press on toward the goal.


52 posted on 06/22/2014 11:15:19 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

Happily, His policy for having mercy really hasn’t changed. It requires being humble enough to ask for it and mean it.


53 posted on 06/22/2014 1:09:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I would classify it as attempted murder, as I think she intended to shoot him and missed. The 20 year sentence seems appropriate.


54 posted on 06/22/2014 1:58:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Why fire only one bullet? If you miss, try, try again.


55 posted on 06/22/2014 5:28:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

One can fire a bullet in the heat of anger, and then realize “Oh, sh**, I’m going to prison for this!”, and stop.


56 posted on 06/23/2014 4:55:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

But that raises the point, can you tell intent after the fact? She might have indeed intended to kill him (20-60 years); but she might also have just intended to intimidate him (1-5 years); and, yes, she might have told the truth that he approached her in a menacing fashion, though this last one is unlikely.

The only forensic way to determine her intent would be the angle at which the bullet entered the ceiling. If the angle would have put it at his head level at some point, then attempted murder is more likely. But if the bullet had a more vertical angle, unless he was standing over her, it was likely not aimed at him.


57 posted on 06/23/2014 6:29:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
In the court document, it states among the facts that the defendant (key fact in bold)
The Defendant then returned to the kitchen with the firearm in her hand and pointed it in the direction of all three Victims. [Grey] put his hands in the air. Defendant shot at [Grey], nearly missing his head.

...The bullet traveled through the kitchen wall and into the ceiling of the living room.

She did NOT shoot into the ceiling. She shot in the direction of her ex's head. Since he's taller than her, the bullet traveled at an upward angle, though the wall, and through the next room.

This reflects my opinion that she meant to shoot him in the head, and missed.

58 posted on 06/23/2014 10:15:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Forensic evidence wins the day. Attempted murder. So, do you think 20 or 60 years is appropriate?


59 posted on 06/23/2014 10:38:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Twenty years seems appropriate. Unfortunately, she is likely to come out of prison even more crazy and violent than she went in as. She’ll just be older and have less energy.


60 posted on 06/23/2014 10:58:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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