Skip to comments.The Left Reboots for Total War
Posted on 06/22/2014 5:37:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Conservatives can be forgiven for believing the political winds are at their back. Obama is flirting with historically low approval ratings as much of the public simply tunes him out. Democrat-backed policies have failed to lift the economy and public anxiety about the limits of government activism grows. Conservative challengers will do well enough this primary season to argue that the "tea party" is alive and well. Behind the scenes, though, the left is retooling and the conservative movement seems unequal to the challenge.
The upcoming edition of The Nation, the long-time house-organ of the institutional left, features a "symposium" with insights from leading organizers on ways to rebuild a progressive, populist political movement. The cornerstone of this effort is an astute, yet arguable, observation about the modern political landscape.
The sad irony of American politics is that the right is far weaker than it appears and the left far stronger than it asserts.
There is some truth in this, but not for the reasons the author, Peter Borosage, probably imagines. The American right is far weaker than it ought to be, given Americans' views on most issues. According to exit polls, a majority of voters in an election in which Barack Obama won a second term also believed that government was "doing too much." Just about one-in-four voters who voted in 2012 described themselves as "liberal."(continued)
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Actually the right is far stronger. Its just that most of us are trying to earn a living and don’t want to tell everyone else how to live their life.
The left is living on our taxes and has time on their hands.
I would say throwing open the southern border of the United States to the entire population of Latin America is “total war.”
There is a problem however.
Our side has a segment, along with a segment on the other side, who really don’t care about jobs in America.
That group has sent a huge amount of formerly American jobs, to China and to other countries.
Nobody talks about that. We run a (massive) trade deficit currently with China. Have for a number of years.
That is not helping America.
Ironically, that may even be helping democrats. We need to recognize, that jobs in China do not help America.
They just don’t.
The thing is, nobody is willing to bring them back. Not our side. Not the other side.
Oh cmon, were gonna get rich by sending all our money to someone else. /s
The huge problem is, there is so much money to be made by sending American factories to China, even if it means sending actual ownership of the factories overseas, that (nobody) in either party is at all willing to talk about this.
Nobody. This is a growing problem for America.
I know, nobody wants to talk about it, but China is about to take the lead, and become the largest market in the entire world.
And we’ll still be importing tons of stuff from there, and not exporting stuff there.
Long-term, that is a policy of economic suicide.
Just saying. People are making a lot of money right now, by selling out America.
But they are selling out America.
We need to bring back jobs.
Bring them right back here to the United States.
Ultimately its demons versus God. It should be a cakewalk for the God side, but how much time do they really spend praying moment by moment... any time a lefty has his irish up, it is worship for the demons.
Until, of course, you run out of customers.
Yes, and we’ll make it up in volume!
Well I think I see your point, but the way things are going, we are going to run out of customers because America will spend all our money and simply go broke.
Then what? America, without industry, and broke.
If we’re going to run out of customers anyway eventually, why do we also want to send away our industry?
Sending everything to China isn’t a good long-term strategy.
A whole lot of fortunes were made because China was so hugely cheaper in every way.
China is still operating at a (huge) advantage.
I’m just saying, America needs to change our strategy toward China.
China is starting to challenge America.
We need to compete with China.
>> the left is retooling
Consider what Cochran and the GOP-e are now doing to the primaries. The GOP-e is part of the Left’s retooling effort.
If pushed to that kind of fate, it will end up with money worth next to nothing and will have to either scrape by domestically or starve.
Who are you referring to?
China? Or America?
China is a manufacturing giant. Second only to America, and rapidly advancing toward the lead.
We run a (massive) budget deficit. We are currently something like 17.5 trillion in debt, and that is rapidly growing.
We import so much, much of it from China. We import something like 440 billion from China in a year, yet we only export something like 122 billion back to China.
So every single year, we ship what, 318 billion more dollars to China.
And neither party, says a single word.
The USA. It kind of comes back to bite us in the rear if we are too gluttonous of foreign product.
Right now, China and America are just about equal.
All I am saying is, we need to start thinking about how things need to work, to keep America just about equal with China. I do not see that being calculated, I only see everyone selling out as fast as they possibly can.
What I see right now, is just a massive sell-out to China. In every issue, in every market, in every way.
We need to start thinking about standing up for America.
I would like the GOP to do that.
Unfortunately, I don’t see even a small hint, of the GOP being in any way responsive to America’s needs.
The democrats haven’t done anything (yet) but we must not wait until they act, or America is well and truly ... well you know.
China is rapidly growing.
China is challenging America.
We cannot simply continue to sell out ever more American industry to our primary competitor.
That just is not sustainable. America needs to compete.
As a nation. We need to compete.
“Then what? America, without industry, and broke.”
This gets to the true heart of the matter. We constitutional conservatives see America as an exceptional nation whose interests should be pursued by its political and business leaders.
The ultimate goal of the Progressive Left is a one-world government where the United States is just a backwater, home to a few rich elites and a lot of cheap labor and resources.
We fret over a growing federal government and our jobs going to China when we should be worried about the complete loss of our national sovereignty and our country’s wealth and land becoming nothing more than collateral for the great Chinese pawn-shop.
China isn’t managed as well as the USA, though. That has to hurt its total productivity. What happens when the Chinese workforce really is maxed out?
“Actually the right is far stronger. Its just that most of us are trying to earn a living and dont want to tell everyone else how to live their life. The left is living on our taxes and has time on their hands.”
The right isn’t unified, while the left has a natural advantage in reaching out to millions of newly-impoverished Americans with an appeal to lay their misery at the feet of wealthy whites. Mitt Romney was beaten by that strategy, and the number of poor whites has swelled since then.
Incredibly high US tax policy, especially corporate taxation, and high regulatory costs are what sends jobs out of our country. Implement a strict E-verify with strict noncompliance punishment, implement a flat tax or a fair tax, cut regulatory fluff, and implement a sane energy policy and jobs would flood back into this country.
All politics is local, especially in off year elections. The local in most locals the Democrat Party is in tatters.
A worthless excuse.
The right isn't strong at all, I will repeat what I have said before. There has never been a more ineffective, and cowardly people in all of human history than the modern conservative.
The media is on board with the push.
Speak for yourself
Obama and the media are owned by the same Bolshevik cabal; for all intents and purposes, we haven’t had a “media” here since at least the Clintons...
It’s losing a sense of personal association with the Lord that has worked this mischief, I believe. I’d agree it’s real. Things in the world have turned into idols that now war for the “conservative’s” loyalty.
One perverse such idol, I aver, is the search for the perfect politician. A perfect politician should not be necessary; only one who is conscientious enough to listen.
Right now, the Chinese unemployment rate is I believe something like 4.3 percent.
China is not in trouble.
We are in trouble. Yet we do nothing, to actually fix the problems.
Neither party does anything, to help our very own nation.
I have been to China. Worked there. I am not anti-Chinese, except to the point that we cannot give up America.
It seems we are currently, doing exactly that. Both parties, seem to be simply, giving up America. We sell our own stocks, but only accept in return buying a minority interest in China (leaving majority interest, in Chinese hands) In company after company. We sell our own property, but only accept in return — well there is no American ownership of Chinese property. In every way, we accept less, in return, for what we offer to China.
I really don’t get it. We cannot just sell out our very own nation.
We need to stand up for ourselves.
America first, for a change.
There’s one of those maps around somewhere which shows the incestuous relationships between the WH, banks and media.
I look in a direction orthogonal to that: God first.
The more good things the USA produces, the better it will be blessed by heaven. There is no reason to view it as a zero sum game with China, but we can’t expect a society of lazy Americans to prosper.
“Theres one of those maps around somewhere which shows the incestuous relationships between the WH, banks and media.”
The media relationship is easiest to highlight; the Clintons ruled for eight years without a press conference that wasn’t staged/pre-screened. Remember the GW Bush ambushes (asking who the leaders of different countries were)? The Clintons knew they couldn’t face real questions because of BJ’s numerous infidelities, and they basically used the media to their own ends.
Obama’s relationship with them is even more noticeable because he is so incompetent and uneducated he needs a teleprompter to speak to schoolchildren, and literally stops talking when the teleprompter craps out. He has to wait for the white liberals behind the scenes to get his script rolling again, and the media gives him a pass on it because they have the same bosses.
There are a lot of “the right” who agree with many facets of the left,
There is no one on the left who agree with facets of the right
Thus, the divide.
I use quotes above because, IMO, you can’t be on “the right” while believing in liberal causes though many claim to do exactly that.
They never go away. “Progressives” are like Zombies.
The GOP should have their license as a political party revoked for political incompetence.
They aren’t incompetent. Their agenda just isn’t ours.
I saw on Hannity tonight why they prevail. It was a discussion on Islam and while conservatives tried to use an inside voice and logic the Obamabot was screaming and would not shut up for even a minute.
If we let them have the floor, whether it’s a show, media, or townhall then that’s what the people hear.
They do tend to be emotional.
The first battle is the first battle. If Republicans don’t win the first battle they will be in worse shape to win the second battle.
Win the first battle. Then regroup, make new plans and fight the next battle. Period.
“They arent incompetent. Their agenda just isnt ours.”
Absolutely correct. I am so weary of hearing about the “spineless incompetent GOP” when the problem is so much worse. The Republican establishment are all in on the looting of America. They are getting their piece of the action, which is why it will take a total overthrow of GOP leadership to ever do anything about Obamacare, the immigration crisis and the ongoing loss of American sovereignty.
Just try to get in the way of Johnny Boehner getting a contribution or political perk and then tell me how “spineless” he is.
(Translation:) "See, we were there before the takeover!"
BTW, has anyone else see what "Common Core" (unofficially, through their co-conspirators) has done to the Smithsonian American History Museum? It's nothing less than nauseating.
The right tend to live in the suburbs. It's much harder to organize there.
The difference is the right is not yet having a war base willing to legislate away leftism the way right wings are put in the chain gang.
Front and center, the left is the police state fascist shill new AiDs like plague of the 21st century. If Hitler was tuberculosis, progressism and liberalism is that Autoimmune disease enabling it.
You continue voting for Republican, you own what they do.
You keep voting for them year after year and then act as helpless babes who have no control over what goes on in Washington. Take responsibility for your voting
Again with the making it personal. Go suck a rotten egg and copulate with yourself.
You deserve to live like a slave to the government.
Wow you are brilliant. Bush should hired you instead of rove.
Agenda for today: boycott a blue state/business; shun a liberal (and make it stick), repent on your knees before Yahweh. Read Psalm 35 daily and think about it. Cut back on leftist entertainment like cable, sporting events and movies. Do it. Sit down and THINK about what you can do to stick it to the left. It’s time to fight back.
Standing and applauding until my hands bleed!!!
In that case, the incompetence lies with voters who vote for the GOP.