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The Left Reboots for Total War
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | June 22, 2014 | Mike Flynn

Posted on 06/22/2014 5:37:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives can be forgiven for believing the political winds are at their back. Obama is flirting with historically low approval ratings as much of the public simply tunes him out. Democrat-backed policies have failed to lift the economy and public anxiety about the limits of government activism grows. Conservative challengers will do well enough this primary season to argue that the "tea party" is alive and well. Behind the scenes, though, the left is retooling and the conservative movement seems unequal to the challenge.

The upcoming edition of The Nation, the long-time house-organ of the institutional left, features a "symposium" with insights from leading organizers on ways to rebuild a progressive, populist political movement. The cornerstone of this effort is an astute, yet arguable, observation about the modern political landscape.

The sad irony of American politics is that the right is far weaker than it appears and the left far stronger than it asserts.

There is some truth in this, but not for the reasons the author, Peter Borosage, probably imagines. The American right is far weaker than it ought to be, given Americans' views on most issues. According to exit polls, a majority of voters in an election in which Barack Obama won a second term also believed that government was "doing too much." Just about one-in-four voters who voted in 2012 described themselves as "liberal."(continued)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; republicans; teaparty
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You didn't think they'd just accept defeat and slink away, did you?
1 posted on 06/22/2014 5:37:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually the right is far stronger. Its just that most of us are trying to earn a living and don’t want to tell everyone else how to live their life.

The left is living on our taxes and has time on their hands.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 5:39:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say throwing open the southern border of the United States to the entire population of Latin America is “total war.”


3 posted on 06/22/2014 5:39:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: driftdiver

There is a problem however.

Our side has a segment, along with a segment on the other side, who really don’t care about jobs in America.

That group has sent a huge amount of formerly American jobs, to China and to other countries.

Nobody talks about that. We run a (massive) trade deficit currently with China. Have for a number of years.

That is not helping America.

Ironically, that may even be helping democrats. We need to recognize, that jobs in China do not help America.

They just don’t.

The thing is, nobody is willing to bring them back. Not our side. Not the other side.

Nobody.


4 posted on 06/22/2014 5:44:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh cmon, were gonna get rich by sending all our money to someone else. /s


5 posted on 06/22/2014 5:51:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Exactly.

The huge problem is, there is so much money to be made by sending American factories to China, even if it means sending actual ownership of the factories overseas, that (nobody) in either party is at all willing to talk about this.

Nobody. This is a growing problem for America.

I know, nobody wants to talk about it, but China is about to take the lead, and become the largest market in the entire world.

And we’ll still be importing tons of stuff from there, and not exporting stuff there.

Long-term, that is a policy of economic suicide.

Just saying. People are making a lot of money right now, by selling out America.

But they are selling out America.

We need to bring back jobs.

Bring them right back here to the United States.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 6:01:15 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: driftdiver

Ultimately its demons versus God. It should be a cakewalk for the God side, but how much time do they really spend praying moment by moment... any time a lefty has his irish up, it is worship for the demons.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 6:03:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Until, of course, you run out of customers.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 6:03:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: driftdiver

Yes, and we’ll make it up in volume!


9 posted on 06/22/2014 6:05:51 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: driftdiver
to the left everything is politics.
10 posted on 06/22/2014 6:07:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well I think I see your point, but the way things are going, we are going to run out of customers because America will spend all our money and simply go broke.

Broke.

Then what? America, without industry, and broke.

If we’re going to run out of customers anyway eventually, why do we also want to send away our industry?

Sending everything to China isn’t a good long-term strategy.

A whole lot of fortunes were made because China was so hugely cheaper in every way.

China is still operating at a (huge) advantage.

I’m just saying, America needs to change our strategy toward China.

China is starting to challenge America.

We need to compete with China.

Compete.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 6:10:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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>> the left is retooling

Consider what Cochran and the GOP-e are now doing to the primaries. The GOP-e is part of the Left’s retooling effort.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 6:11:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If pushed to that kind of fate, it will end up with money worth next to nothing and will have to either scrape by domestically or starve.


13 posted on 06/22/2014 6:13:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope.


14 posted on 06/22/2014 6:17:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Who are you referring to?

China? Or America?

China is a manufacturing giant. Second only to America, and rapidly advancing toward the lead.

We run a (massive) budget deficit. We are currently something like 17.5 trillion in debt, and that is rapidly growing.

We import so much, much of it from China. We import something like 440 billion from China in a year, yet we only export something like 122 billion back to China.

So every single year, we ship what, 318 billion more dollars to China.

And neither party, says a single word.


15 posted on 06/22/2014 6:18:20 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The USA. It kind of comes back to bite us in the rear if we are too gluttonous of foreign product.


16 posted on 06/22/2014 6:21:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly.

Right now, China and America are just about equal.

All I am saying is, we need to start thinking about how things need to work, to keep America just about equal with China. I do not see that being calculated, I only see everyone selling out as fast as they possibly can.

What I see right now, is just a massive sell-out to China. In every issue, in every market, in every way.

We need to start thinking about standing up for America.

I would like the GOP to do that.

Unfortunately, I don’t see even a small hint, of the GOP being in any way responsive to America’s needs.

The democrats haven’t done anything (yet) but we must not wait until they act, or America is well and truly ... well you know.

China is rapidly growing.

China is challenging America.

We cannot simply continue to sell out ever more American industry to our primary competitor.

That just is not sustainable. America needs to compete.

As a nation. We need to compete.


17 posted on 06/22/2014 6:30:31 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Then what? America, without industry, and broke.”

This gets to the true heart of the matter. We constitutional conservatives see America as an exceptional nation whose interests should be pursued by its political and business leaders.

The ultimate goal of the Progressive Left is a one-world government where the United States is just a backwater, home to a few rich elites and a lot of cheap labor and resources.

We fret over a growing federal government and our jobs going to China when we should be worried about the complete loss of our national sovereignty and our country’s wealth and land becoming nothing more than collateral for the great Chinese pawn-shop.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 6:31:55 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

China isn’t managed as well as the USA, though. That has to hurt its total productivity. What happens when the Chinese workforce really is maxed out?


19 posted on 06/22/2014 6:35:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: driftdiver

“Actually the right is far stronger. Its just that most of us are trying to earn a living and don’t want to tell everyone else how to live their life. The left is living on our taxes and has time on their hands.”

The right isn’t unified, while the left has a natural advantage in reaching out to millions of newly-impoverished Americans with an appeal to lay their misery at the feet of wealthy whites. Mitt Romney was beaten by that strategy, and the number of poor whites has swelled since then.


20 posted on 06/22/2014 6:36:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That group has sent a huge amount of formerly American jobs, to China and to other countries.

Incredibly high US tax policy, especially corporate taxation, and high regulatory costs are what sends jobs out of our country. Implement a strict E-verify with strict noncompliance punishment, implement a flat tax or a fair tax, cut regulatory fluff, and implement a sane energy policy and jobs would flood back into this country.

21 posted on 06/22/2014 6:38:46 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All politics is local, especially in off year elections. The local in most locals the Democrat Party is in tatters.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 6:39:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: driftdiver
Actually the right is far stronger. Its just that most of us are trying to earn a living and don’t want to tell everyone else how to live their life.

A worthless excuse.

The right isn't strong at all, I will repeat what I have said before. There has never been a more ineffective, and cowardly people in all of human history than the modern conservative.

23 posted on 06/22/2014 6:42:13 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: kearnyirish2

The media is on board with the push.


24 posted on 06/22/2014 6:42:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ClaytonP

Speak for yourself


25 posted on 06/22/2014 6:43:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Obama and the media are owned by the same Bolshevik cabal; for all intents and purposes, we haven’t had a “media” here since at least the Clintons...


26 posted on 06/22/2014 6:44:03 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ClaytonP

It’s losing a sense of personal association with the Lord that has worked this mischief, I believe. I’d agree it’s real. Things in the world have turned into idols that now war for the “conservative’s” loyalty.

One perverse such idol, I aver, is the search for the perfect politician. A perfect politician should not be necessary; only one who is conscientious enough to listen.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 6:48:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Right now, the Chinese unemployment rate is I believe something like 4.3 percent.

China is not in trouble.

We are in trouble. Yet we do nothing, to actually fix the problems.

Neither party does anything, to help our very own nation.

I have been to China. Worked there. I am not anti-Chinese, except to the point that we cannot give up America.

It seems we are currently, doing exactly that. Both parties, seem to be simply, giving up America. We sell our own stocks, but only accept in return buying a minority interest in China (leaving majority interest, in Chinese hands) In company after company. We sell our own property, but only accept in return — well there is no American ownership of Chinese property. In every way, we accept less, in return, for what we offer to China.

I really don’t get it. We cannot just sell out our very own nation.

We need to stand up for ourselves.

America first, for a change.


28 posted on 06/22/2014 6:51:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: kearnyirish2

There’s one of those maps around somewhere which shows the incestuous relationships between the WH, banks and media.


29 posted on 06/22/2014 6:52:47 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I look in a direction orthogonal to that: God first.

The more good things the USA produces, the better it will be blessed by heaven. There is no reason to view it as a zero sum game with China, but we can’t expect a society of lazy Americans to prosper.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 6:54:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: driftdiver

“There’s one of those maps around somewhere which shows the incestuous relationships between the WH, banks and media.”

The media relationship is easiest to highlight; the Clintons ruled for eight years without a press conference that wasn’t staged/pre-screened. Remember the GW Bush ambushes (asking who the leaders of different countries were)? The Clintons knew they couldn’t face real questions because of BJ’s numerous infidelities, and they basically used the media to their own ends.

Obama’s relationship with them is even more noticeable because he is so incompetent and uneducated he needs a teleprompter to speak to schoolchildren, and literally stops talking when the teleprompter craps out. He has to wait for the white liberals behind the scenes to get his script rolling again, and the media gives him a pass on it because they have the same bosses.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 6:58:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are a lot of “the right” who agree with many facets of the left,
There is no one on the left who agree with facets of the right
Thus, the divide.

I use quotes above because, IMO, you can’t be on “the right” while believing in liberal causes though many claim to do exactly that.


32 posted on 06/22/2014 7:03:43 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They never go away. “Progressives” are like Zombies.


33 posted on 06/22/2014 7:06:30 PM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: driftdiver
Why didn't the GOP defund the Left, when they controlled the House, Senate and White House? I sent GOP appeals for money the note "defund the left". Why should you tax me, take my money and give it to my political opponents (and supposedly your opponents too)?

The GOP should have their license as a political party revoked for political incompetence.

34 posted on 06/22/2014 7:07:55 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

They aren’t incompetent. Their agenda just isn’t ours.


35 posted on 06/22/2014 7:09:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I saw on Hannity tonight why they prevail. It was a discussion on Islam and while conservatives tried to use an inside voice and logic the Obamabot was screaming and would not shut up for even a minute.

If we let them have the floor, whether it’s a show, media, or townhall then that’s what the people hear.


36 posted on 06/22/2014 7:17:26 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

They do tend to be emotional.


37 posted on 06/22/2014 7:38:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
They do tend to be emotional.

LOL!

38 posted on 06/22/2014 7:40:35 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first battle is the first battle. If Republicans don’t win the first battle they will be in worse shape to win the second battle.

Win the first battle. Then regroup, make new plans and fight the next battle. Period.


39 posted on 06/22/2014 8:11:13 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: driftdiver

“They aren’t incompetent. Their agenda just isn’t ours.”

Absolutely correct. I am so weary of hearing about the “spineless incompetent GOP” when the problem is so much worse. The Republican establishment are all in on the looting of America. They are getting their piece of the action, which is why it will take a total overthrow of GOP leadership to ever do anything about Obamacare, the immigration crisis and the ongoing loss of American sovereignty.

Just try to get in the way of Johnny Boehner getting a contribution or political perk and then tell me how “spineless” he is.


40 posted on 06/22/2014 8:34:48 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I couldn't believe the number of Chinese tourists getting their pictures taken against the DC mall landscapes today.

(Translation:) "See, we were there before the takeover!"

BTW, has anyone else see what "Common Core" (unofficially, through their co-conspirators) has done to the Smithsonian American History Museum? It's nothing less than nauseating.

HF

41 posted on 06/22/2014 8:49:39 PM PDT by holden
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's easy for the left to organize in the cities where they live.

The right tend to live in the suburbs. It's much harder to organize there.

42 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:44 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The difference is the right is not yet having a war base willing to legislate away leftism the way right wings are put in the chain gang.

Front and center, the left is the police state fascist shill new AiDs like plague of the 21st century. If Hitler was tuberculosis, progressism and liberalism is that Autoimmune disease enabling it.


43 posted on 06/22/2014 9:43:36 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: driftdiver
They aren’t incompetent. Their agenda just isn’t ours.

BS!

You continue voting for Republican, you own what they do.

You keep voting for them year after year and then act as helpless babes who have no control over what goes on in Washington. Take responsibility for your voting

44 posted on 06/22/2014 10:08:58 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

Again with the making it personal. Go suck a rotten egg and copulate with yourself.


45 posted on 06/23/2014 1:16:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I was right, you do vote for the GOP every election than then pathetically whine on the internet like some castrato when they continue to do what they have always done.

You deserve to live like a slave to the government.

46 posted on 06/23/2014 2:43:06 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

Wow you are brilliant. Bush should hired you instead of rove.


47 posted on 06/23/2014 3:23:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agenda for today: boycott a blue state/business; shun a liberal (and make it stick), repent on your knees before Yahweh. Read Psalm 35 daily and think about it. Cut back on leftist entertainment like cable, sporting events and movies. Do it. Sit down and THINK about what you can do to stick it to the left. It’s time to fight back.


48 posted on 06/23/2014 3:46:47 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ClaytonP
The right isn't strong at all, I will repeat what I have said before. There has never been a more ineffective, and cowardly people in all of human history than the modern conservative.

Standing and applauding until my hands bleed!!!

49 posted on 06/23/2014 3:49:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: driftdiver

In that case, the incompetence lies with voters who vote for the GOP.


50 posted on 06/23/2014 6:08:06 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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